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    Posted: 01 May 2012 at 3:21pm
The Irish Rugby Football Union has introduced regulations which will mean only one non-Irish qualified player is allowed to play across the 15 positions for Ulster, Leinster and Munster starting 2013/14 season, but this could start earlier and players could leave, also the irish teams will be very quiet in transfer market

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It hasn't stopped Leinster going to recruit IQ players from the SH - notably the TH prop from Hurricanes.
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Why would they be quiet, I don't understand?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote shocker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 May 2012 at 3:29pm
right, if leinster sign a foeirgn tight head prop, then ulster and munster cannot, they got to have an irish tight head, only 1 foreign player per position between clubs.  
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could be short term or up til 2013,

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote haydn_davies Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 May 2012 at 3:40pm
Shocker, he is IQ like I said, no problem for what they're proposing.
 
I'd have thought that it will put a premium on any IQ player playing outside Ireland at the moment.
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irish teams wont be able to have a squad with a high number of foriegn players, what i gather 15 between them, this would allow  us and the other regions compete for sh players, thats if they want to come to europe.
perhaps the irish teams will start letting their foreign contingent go soon
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I see v little difference, the teams will just agree 5 positions each and man them with NIQ's.

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never mind, life 2 short
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Like this thread then.
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It has been relaxed a bit.
Right now the only position this really affects is prop where Leinster and Munster have 2 NIQ looseheads and Munster and Ulster have 2 NIQ tightheads, although Afoa will be with Ulster for at least another 2 seasons after this one.
 
Munster are [beep]ed next year because they have literally no decent Irish props!!!!
 
Hooker is fine, no NIQ hookers as of this August as Straus is Irish qualified and Munster Ulster have Irish hookers.
 
Locks are fine, Leinster and Munster will have no NIQ locks next season and Ulster will only have Muller.
 
Backrow is fine with only 1 NIQ player currently starting amongest the 3 provinces, and he's to be replaced by Roger Wilson next season.
 
Halfbacks are fine. All 3 Irish provinces started Irish 10s and only Pienaar is the NIQ scrumhalf.  He is staying with Ulster for another 2 seasons. LEGEND.
 
Centre is fine. Munsters Casey Lualala will be the only NIQ centre next season amongest the 3 provincial squads and he'll probably be behind Keith Earls @ 13.
 
Wing is fine as well.  Ulster will have only Irish wingers in our squad next season. Munster have Howlett and Leinster have Nacewa.
 
Fullback is fine. Leinster and Munster have Irish fullbacks in their squad next season, whilst Ulster will have Jared Payne, who will be Irish qualified when he's 28.
 
 
As I say, the only area of contention will be at prop. Ulster have some very good Irish props ATM (as evident by the young lads coming on and pushign Edinburgh back 4 m to win the winning penalty at the weekend) and then Afoa as our senior prop.
 
Leinster have starting Irish props and Nathan White (a very good TH prop - you guys missed out there on a bargain) is moving to Connacht. Munster are [beep]ed.
 
Initially the big talking point about this new policy was that no NIQ players could re-sign with their province. That meant Isa Nacewa would have to leave at the end of this season, but as I say, that is relaxed and he has now signed a 1yr contract.
 
The likes of Howlett, Pienaar, Muller and Nacewa will be able to re-sign if both parties want to, but you'll find that only a handful of NIQ players will be in the provinces HEC teams next season anyway.
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by shocker shocker wrote:

also the irish teams will be very quiet in transfer market

 
Thats because Leinster literally don't rely on any NIQ players (they have only Van Der Merwe and Nacewa for next season), Munster have theirs all signed up (Howlett, Lualala, Botha, Du Preez) and Ulster have only 1 spot to fill (Afoa, Muller, Pienaar)
 
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Well thats summed that up very well. Thanks for that.
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Originally posted by al08 al08 wrote:

It has been relaxed a bit.
Right now the only position this really affects is prop where Leinster and Munster have 2 NIQ looseheads and Munster and Ulster have 2 NIQ tightheads, although Afoa will be with Ulster for at least another 2 seasons after this one.
 
Munster are [beep]ed next year because they have literally no decent Irish props!!!!
 
Hooker is fine, no NIQ hookers as of this August as Straus is Irish qualified and Munster Ulster have Irish hookers.
 
Locks are fine, Leinster and Munster will have no NIQ locks next season and Ulster will only have Muller.
 
Backrow is fine with only 1 NIQ player currently starting amongest the 3 provinces, and he's to be replaced by Roger Wilson next season.
 
Halfbacks are fine. All 3 Irish provinces started Irish 10s and only Pienaar is the NIQ scrumhalf.  He is staying with Ulster for another 2 seasons. LEGEND.
 
Centre is fine. Munsters Casey Lualala will be the only NIQ centre next season amongest the 3 provincial squads and he'll probably be behind Keith Earls @ 13.
 
Wing is fine as well.  Ulster will have only Irish wingers in our squad next season. Munster have Howlett and Leinster have Nacewa.
 
Fullback is fine. Leinster and Munster have Irish fullbacks in their squad next season, whilst Ulster will have Jared Payne, who will be Irish qualified when he's 28.
 
 
As I say, the only area of contention will be at prop. Ulster have some very good Irish props ATM (as evident by the young lads coming on and pushign Edinburgh back 4 m to win the winning penalty at the weekend) and then Afoa as our senior prop.
 
Leinster have starting Irish props and Nathan White (a very good TH prop - you guys missed out there on a bargain) is moving to Connacht. Munster are [beep]ed.
 
Initially the big talking point about this new policy was that no NIQ players could re-sign with their province. That meant Isa Nacewa would have to leave at the end of this season, but as I say, that is relaxed and he has now signed a 1yr contract.
 
The likes of Howlett, Pienaar, Muller and Nacewa will be able to re-sign if both parties want to, but you'll find that only a handful of NIQ players will be in the provinces HEC teams next season anyway.
 
 
 
 
Rant over.
 
Thats the major weakness at international level...Find yourself a tidy tight and he could be the best paid irish player ever
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Originally posted by SMELLYMIKE SMELLYMIKE wrote:

Originally posted by al08 al08 wrote:

It has been relaxed a bit.
Right now the only position this really affects is prop where Leinster and Munster have 2 NIQ looseheads and Munster and Ulster have 2 NIQ tightheads, although Afoa will be with Ulster for at least another 2 seasons after this one.
 
Munster are [beep]ed next year because they have literally no decent Irish props!!!!
 
Hooker is fine, no NIQ hookers as of this August as Straus is Irish qualified and Munster Ulster have Irish hookers.
 
Locks are fine, Leinster and Munster will have no NIQ locks next season and Ulster will only have Muller.
 
Backrow is fine with only 1 NIQ player currently starting amongest the 3 provinces, and he's to be replaced by Roger Wilson next season.
 
Halfbacks are fine. All 3 Irish provinces started Irish 10s and only Pienaar is the NIQ scrumhalf.  He is staying with Ulster for another 2 seasons. LEGEND.
 
Centre is fine. Munsters Casey Lualala will be the only NIQ centre next season amongest the 3 provincial squads and he'll probably be behind Keith Earls @ 13.
 
Wing is fine as well.  Ulster will have only Irish wingers in our squad next season. Munster have Howlett and Leinster have Nacewa.
 
Fullback is fine. Leinster and Munster have Irish fullbacks in their squad next season, whilst Ulster will have Jared Payne, who will be Irish qualified when he's 28.
 
 
As I say, the only area of contention will be at prop. Ulster have some very good Irish props ATM (as evident by the young lads coming on and pushign Edinburgh back 4 m to win the winning penalty at the weekend) and then Afoa as our senior prop.
 
Leinster have starting Irish props and Nathan White (a very good TH prop - you guys missed out there on a bargain) is moving to Connacht. Munster are [beep]ed.
 
Initially the big talking point about this new policy was that no NIQ players could re-sign with their province. That meant Isa Nacewa would have to leave at the end of this season, but as I say, that is relaxed and he has now signed a 1yr contract.
 
The likes of Howlett, Pienaar, Muller and Nacewa will be able to re-sign if both parties want to, but you'll find that only a handful of NIQ players will be in the provinces HEC teams next season anyway.
 
 
 
 
Rant over.
 
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