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Penalty Try Rules Please?

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    Posted: 26 December 2013 at 6:37pm
Before I start, I thought ref had a pretty good game today, better than Nigel.

What is the rule relating to a penalty try?  Ok, so we should have gone for a scrum when AWJ went off, but with 3 infringements in the red zone, why couldn't the ref award a penalty try (apart from there wasn't a clear cut scoring chance).  If it had been 3 scrum infringements, then surely a penalty try would have been given.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mogwen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 December 2013 at 6:42pm
there should be a marking on the pitch (i.e. colour the 5 yards prior to the try line in red) and if a team infringes 3 times(same infringment e.g collapsing a maule/lineout/scrum) in that area then automatic pen try. will make it easier for the ref,players and fans to understand
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its given if the offence prevents a probable try

Edited by RR1972 - 26 December 2013 at 6:45pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote surfing-mtber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 December 2013 at 6:47pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

its given if the offence prevents a probable try


So would you say that it was correct not to award the try?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Iwlew Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 December 2013 at 6:51pm
Thought that a try should have been given on third maul from Scarlets line out
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RR1972 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 December 2013 at 6:53pm
Originally posted by surfing-mtber surfing-mtber wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

its given if the offence prevents a probable try


So would you say that it was correct not to award the try?



only saw it live, would like to have seen a replay before I comment.

A big game like that and so close to the end it tends to have to be a certain try before it's given

I was shouting for 1 in fairness!

what did the tv commentators say?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Scarlet Fanatic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 December 2013 at 7:08pm
At the time I was calling for a penalty try, but with hindsight I would like to see it on the television. Isn't the rule that a penalty try can only be awarded if it is almost certain that a try would have been scored without the foul play. Without seeing a replay I'm not convinced that it was 'almost certain' that we would have scored. Its a very difficult one!
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I was dreading the Scarlets opting for a scrum. I never doubted we'd handle the defensive maul as Yanto, Ryan and Jarvis are very good at disrupting a maul. Was it because the previous scrum was won by the Os with a good nudge.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Why Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 December 2013 at 9:39pm
Was penalty try as he pulled a mail going forward down less than 3 yards from line and was third pen in succession. Was screaming for pen try but Hodges was never going to give it.
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I am fairly certain that if Ospreys had pulled down the maul again after AWJ got carded ref would have had to give penalty try. 
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Was a certain try going to be scored. Not from where I was sitting.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wil Chips Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 December 2013 at 7:23am
Nope, we weren't close enough to the line, nor did we have enough forward momentum. A pen and a yellow was the right call.
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Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:


Nope, we weren't close enough to the line, nor did we have enough forward momentum. A pen and a yellow was the right call.

Spot on. The mistake was not going for the scrum.
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Should have taken the scrum as it was 7 against 8.
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Should have taken the scrum as it was 7 against 8.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Iwlew Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 December 2013 at 10:57am
Should have not messed up that final line out which resulted in us going wide.
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