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Ongoing RRW / WRU dispute (RSA Agreement)

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    Posted: 11 July 2014 at 2:34pm
Just spotted this online. Not looking good

http://www.regionalrugbywales.com/2014/07/11/statement-behalf-four-welsh-regions-regional-rugby-wales/

Edited by MikeM - 11 July 2014 at 2:35pm
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Just incredible. Good on them for the statement. What a sorry state of affairs.

Every stakeholder (Sponsors, broadcasters and businesses) needs to realize the importance of this continued failure to come to a conclusive agreement.
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full statement:

Quote Sadly, the Regions regret to confirm that despite an indescribably tortuous process of endless telephone calls and meetings since January 6th, the control, commercial and financial conditions that are being demanded of them under drafts of the proposed new Service Agreement would be completely unacceptable for any responsible independent business to enter into and expose itself to.

The Regions are most grateful for the time and consideration of Wales’ National Head Coach, who has worked hard to reach a constructive and positive balance on the core Rugby elements of the agreement.

The public statements of the WRU Chairman referring to the need for urgency are welcomed, together with the positive position of individual WRU Board members following the Regions’ presentation to the Board during May 2014.

Unfortunately, these comments in the public domain do not reflect the actual process that the Regions continue to experience, with every apparent step forward eventually being replaced by two steps back.

The Regions have consistently made every possible effort to reach a positive and progressive agreement that truly works in the interests of both parties, to ensure a sustainable and competitive professional game in Wales at both regional and international level. They remain totally committed to the hope of reaching that solution.

However, after many months of working hard to try to progress a new agreement, it is with heavy hearts that the Boards of all four Regions must now urgently consider the stark practical consequences of operating within a business model that does not include any form of agreement with the WRU outside IRB regulations and no WRU support or involvement in the development of Professional Regional Rugby.]
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Sh!t am I reading that wrong, or does it look like the regional boards are looking at closing up shop?
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Originally posted by ScarletSpiderman ScarletSpiderman wrote:

Sh!t am I reading that wrong, or does it look like the regional boards are looking at closing up shop?


You're reading it wrong.
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Originally posted by ScarletSpiderman ScarletSpiderman wrote:

Sh!t am I reading that wrong, or does it look like the regional boards are looking at closing up shop?


No. Just on their own

The Boards of all four Regions must now urgently consider the stark practical consequences of operating within a business model that does not include any form of agreement with the WRU outside IRB regulations and no WRU support or involvement in the development of Professional Regional Rugby.
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Originally posted by ScarletSpiderman ScarletSpiderman wrote:

Sh!t am I reading that wrong, or does it look like the regional boards are looking at closing up shop?
 
the way im reading it is that the four regions will continue without WRU funding. this means, the wage cap will be dropped to something sustainable to the regions, star players certainly will not be held onto, and qualification for the RC will be practically impossible. unless four regions help out eachother with more loan signings. failure to do any of those things could very well mean closing up shop whilst they still do have the heavy trump card, no matter how fair or unfair on the players, ANY game outside IRB window, players will not be available.
Then it leaves of course not being a team supported by wru...will the players that play for the region be able to play international rugby????
 
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We'll just have to charge the WRU £40,000  for each player for each week that we are allowing the WRU to use them. 
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Where does this leave Warburton's CC?
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What the hell does outside the IRB mean?
Edit- re read it now.

Edited by Wasp - 11 July 2014 at 2:49pm
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It's abundantly clear that Roger Lewis must go, and must go now.
 
His leadership has failed. He's a tyrant out of control with no interest in Welsh rugby beyond what he can get out of it.
 
It's a huge national embarrassment and a totally shameful state of affairs.
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Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

What the hell does outside the IRB mean?


No player release deal outside the IRB test windows for one. So no 4th AI Roger Bowl against the South Africans unless they play the Pontypridd team and Warburton.
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Do we now have to release the players for any games as there is no agreement?
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Originally posted by PearlJam PearlJam wrote:


Do we now have to release the players for any games as there is no agreement?


Yes, for the the IRB window (6Nations and 3 AIs) I don't think there's June tests next year because of the world cup
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