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    Posted: 18 January 2020 at 4:26pm
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

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Great opportunity to pinch Tompkins. I think the Scarlets would love him tbh but given he's English, doesn't appear to know Wales all that well...will he want to leave Saracens? Brad Barritt might just retire, other big players might be off, and at 24 he could be starting for Sarries again in 2 years time, back in the Premiership. I don't see it as a guarantee he'd want to leave England to be honest even given the circumstances.
If all goes well with Wales he’s very unlikely to give that up. He had agreed terms with Cardiff last season before project reset messed it up. He’ll come to Wales.


He has at least 2 years left on his contract. No need to rush. In the meantime, Wales might opt for Haloholo and a few others ahead of him, to the point he'd rather stick with Sarries rather than take a substantial pay cut moving to Wales and not get picked for the national side. A lot can change in a short space of time in sport.
Saracens could look to offload him early plus if he’s part of the 38 he wouldn’t have to take a substantial pay cut 
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by miaow miaow wrote:

Great opportunity to pinch Tompkins. I think the Scarlets would love him tbh but given he's English, doesn't appear to know Wales all that well...will he want to leave Saracens? Brad Barritt might just retire, other big players might be off, and at 24 he could be starting for Sarries again in 2 years time, back in the Premiership. I don't see it as a guarantee he'd want to leave England to be honest even given the circumstances.
If all goes well with Wales he’s very unlikely to give that up. He had agreed terms with Cardiff last season before project reset messed it up. He’ll come to Wales.


He has at least 2 years left on his contract. No need to rush. In the meantime, Wales might opt for Haloholo and a few others ahead of him, to the point he'd rather stick with Sarries rather than take a substantial pay cut moving to Wales and not get picked for the national side. A lot can change in a short space of time in sport.
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Francis has an unique contract with Exeter, as every time he signs with them, it is never a new contract but an extension to his old contract, therefore he can carry on playing for the club and be available for Wales. Saved him last time, personally I hope that has changed, for all such players
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Yes it really is a timing issue. As we are eager fans I would like to see us make a move for WillGriff sooner rather than later however they are all available for Wales under existing rules until they come to contract renewals. If they want to continue playing for Wales and stay in England beyond their current contracts they need to have a chat with Tomas Francis' lawyer as he seems to have renewed a number of times with Exeter but remains eligible. 
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by miaow miaow wrote:

Great opportunity to pinch Tompkins. I think the Scarlets would love him tbh but given he's English, doesn't appear to know Wales all that well...will he want to leave Saracens? Brad Barritt might just retire, other big players might be off, and at 24 he could be starting for Sarries again in 2 years time, back in the Premiership. I don't see it as a guarantee he'd want to leave England to be honest even given the circumstances.
If all goes well with Wales he’s very unlikely to give that up. He had agreed terms with Cardiff last season before project reset messed it up. He’ll come to Wales.
If things go well with Wales he will have to sign for a Welsh region to continue playing for Wales unless Wales scrap the 60 cap rule, which I can’t see them doing.  As it currently stands, any English based player either has to have 60 caps or has to have been not offered a contract by one of the 4 regions to continue playing in England and represent Wales.  So I think that Pivac and Co have played a blinder here, inviting 5 uncapped England based players into the setup, he’s forcing their to invariably choose between playing in England or playing for Wales in the medium to long term.
I’d take Tompkins if he became available in the next season or two.
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by miaow miaow wrote:

Great opportunity to pinch Tompkins. I think the Scarlets would love him tbh but given he's English, doesn't appear to know Wales all that well...will he want to leave Saracens? Brad Barritt might just retire, other big players might be off, and at 24 he could be starting for Sarries again in 2 years time, back in the Premiership. I don't see it as a guarantee he'd want to leave England to be honest even given the circumstances.
If all goes well with Wales he’s very unlikely to give that up. He had agreed terms with Cardiff last season before project reset messed it up. He’ll come to Wales.

Why do the Blues keep chasing the wrong players when they desperately need to address their front 5 deficiencies? Wil Rowland & WillGriff should be their priorities surely although I would love us to sign WillGriff. 
May have dreamed it, however, I thought WillGriff has a fair bit of time left on his contract.

It’d be interesting to see the remaining length of contract, and any Exeter-like Tomas Francis extensions, for the new guys coming into the squad.

Yes I think you're right about WilGriff - just wishful thinking on my part. Tompkins on the other hand bearing in mind Sarries troubles may be totally different. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by miaow miaow wrote:

Great opportunity to pinch Tompkins. I think the Scarlets would love him tbh but given he's English, doesn't appear to know Wales all that well...will he want to leave Saracens? Brad Barritt might just retire, other big players might be off, and at 24 he could be starting for Sarries again in 2 years time, back in the Premiership. I don't see it as a guarantee he'd want to leave England to be honest even given the circumstances.
If all goes well with Wales he’s very unlikely to give that up. He had agreed terms with Cardiff last season before project reset messed it up. He’ll come to Wales.

Why do the Blues keep chasing the wrong players when they desperately need to address their front 5 deficiencies? Wil Rowland & WillGriff should be their priorities surely although I would love us to sign WillGriff. 
May have dreamed it, however, I thought WillGriff has a fair bit of time left on his contract.

It’d be interesting to see the remaining length of contract, and any Exeter-like Tomas Francis extensions, for the new guys coming into the squad.
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by miaow miaow wrote:

Great opportunity to pinch Tompkins. I think the Scarlets would love him tbh but given he's English, doesn't appear to know Wales all that well...will he want to leave Saracens? Brad Barritt might just retire, other big players might be off, and at 24 he could be starting for Sarries again in 2 years time, back in the Premiership. I don't see it as a guarantee he'd want to leave England to be honest even given the circumstances.
If all goes well with Wales he’s very unlikely to give that up. He had agreed terms with Cardiff last season before project reset messed it up. He’ll come to Wales.

Why do the Blues keep chasing the wrong players when they desperately need to address their front 5 deficiencies? Wil Rowland & WillGriff should be their priorities surely although I would love us to sign WillGriff. 
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Originally posted by miaow miaow wrote:

Great opportunity to pinch Tompkins. I think the Scarlets would love him tbh but given he's English, doesn't appear to know Wales all that well...will he want to leave Saracens? Brad Barritt might just retire, other big players might be off, and at 24 he could be starting for Sarries again in 2 years time, back in the Premiership. I don't see it as a guarantee he'd want to leave England to be honest even given the circumstances.
If all goes well with Wales he’s very unlikely to give that up. He had agreed terms with Cardiff last season before project reset messed it up. He’ll come to Wales.
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Great opportunity to pinch Tompkins. I think the Scarlets would love him tbh but given he's English, doesn't appear to know Wales all that well...will he want to leave Saracens? Brad Barritt might just retire, other big players might be off, and at 24 he could be starting for Sarries again in 2 years time, back in the Premiership. I don't see it as a guarantee he'd want to leave England to be honest even given the circumstances.
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It is pretty clear that Sarries are facing huge problems in getting below the cap for this season so the time is right to capitalise. Any Welsh qualified player should be targeted by the regions as they will never get an opportunity like this to sign a player who is still under contract, like Tompkins who has 2 year left on his contract, without compensation. 

The clock is ticking and they will be getting pretty desparate.
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Saracens facing mounting pressure,  now threatened with relegation. Apparently, all monies paid to players in the 7 months of this season's contract period added to any severance payments must still amount to less than £7m!
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I don't think he'll be with us very long on that basis. Scotland will want him in Scotland. Shame as that year long injury really took something from us when we needed him.

The Scottish system, with only two pro clubs, relies on having players playing outside Scotland. According to the press conference at the announcement of their squad, Blade's non-selection was down to a head injury. That's the bigger concern about his future.
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Jamie Roberts leaves Bath for Stormers.  Can’t be for the money if the story about SA in The Times today is fact

He is being partially financed by private investor - no truth apparently its Hadleigh ParkesWink
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If Jac is getting selected to play for the region it will override 20's duty. 
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Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

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I am totally with you on the CEO nonsense both the Scots and generally. It is totally diabolical. As for Blade the guy is real quality. During the 6 nations it would be great to see Blade at 6 Casseim at 8 with cubby back at 7 & Josh covering all 3 on the bench.
Back five during 6N is certainly tasty. Front row aint too shabby either.
Lets not forget a certain Dan Davis who cant be far off returning now. I also see Jac Morgan having a bit of a run soon. real fetcher of the ball.

Yes both Dan & Jac are real talents. I am a huge fan of Dans as he has so many of Cubby's qualities while being a little bigger & quicker.


Think Jac Morgan will be with the U20s, so a good opportunity for Dan Davies to regain fitness, hard to see which player is ahead in the pecking order at the moment.

I believe that we could recall Jac if needed.

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