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    Posted: 19 January 2020 at 8:36am
Cheer up lads Wink
We're still still here!
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Originally posted by sospanman sospanman wrote:

Originally posted by Ffidel Bennett Ffidel Bennett wrote:

Obviously, we need to take any chances if and when they arise, but we don't need to play kamikaze rugby from the off. Sure, if we need one more try and there's 5 minutes left, run it from anywhere, behind our own line even, but doing this from the kick off, when they are expecting us to spread it wide and go for risky off=-loads is asking for interceptions and totally counter-productive.

I think we should be encouraging them to engage in an open running entertaining game. I don't mind conceding a few tries so long as we create and score more. The more open the game the greater our chances.


The problem with this is...when was the last time that happened and we won? For every Ospreys win, there's been plenty like the Blues games last season, or against Ulster, where we might try and play fast and loose and end up 3 scores down with no sign of being able to score tries, and have effectively lost the game by half time.

The way we play shows Mooar values territorial control but with an offloading game at the right time, and some clever set piece attacking moves that link the offloading and support lines. But if we don't get over the gainline then we look pretty limited at the moment, and resort to just trucking it up and then hoping for the best, struggling to score points.

It's about balance. If LI are all over the place then playing it wide will make sense, but if not, we could just be shooting ourselves in the foot.
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I think LI are going to think we will play riskier, more expansive rugby as they know we need the tries. So if we start off with some really direct rugby, we might have some great success before then opening up a bit.
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Originally posted by Ffidel Bennett Ffidel Bennett wrote:

Obviously, we need to take any chances if and when they arise, but we don't need to play kamikaze rugby from the off. Sure, if we need one more try and there's 5 minutes left, run it from anywhere, behind our own line even, but doing this from the kick off, when they are expecting us to spread it wide and go for risky off=-loads is asking for interceptions and totally counter-productive.

I think we should be encouraging them to engage in an open running entertaining game. I don't mind conceding a few tries so long as we create and score more. The more open the game the greater our chances.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote miaow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 January 2020 at 5:52pm
The team's form has been all over the place this year so I'm hopeful of the 5 point TBP win but also think winkler's not wrong, we could definitely lose today, with all the options in between being likely as well. I know that doesn't really say very much but given how we've struggled against teams for at least a few years when it comes to getting 4 try bonuses when we really need them, and the fact we're a bit lacking in the kind of dynamic power that can create a try from nothing, it's not ridiculous to think we're going to lose this one, away from home.
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Obviously, we need to take any chances if and when they arise, but we don't need to play kamikaze rugby from the off. Sure, if we need one more try and there's 5 minutes left, run it from anywhere, behind our own line even, but doing this from the kick off, when they are expecting us to spread it wide and go for risky off=-loads is asking for interceptions and totally counter-productive.
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Well its time things change. Be loud and passionate. Mission Impossible? No way, our destiny is in our own hands. We need to help to pull this out of the fire.
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Originally posted by henry_winkler henry_winkler wrote:

This has got depressing loss written all over it.

Our away form is nonexistent, let's hope tonight Brad turns it around. But I fear a heavy loss.
Depends on how much last week took out of us.
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Originally posted by henry_winkler henry_winkler wrote:

This has got depressing loss written all over it.

Our away form is nonexistent, let's hope tonight Brad turns it around. But I fear a heavy loss.

A heavy loss. Um, ok.
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Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by henry_winkler henry_winkler wrote:

Our away form is nonexistent, let's hope tonight Brad turns it around.
Yes, non-existent. Except for our last away match, which I believe we won. 

Form didn't win it for us, we were quite poor.
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Originally posted by henry_winkler henry_winkler wrote:

Our away form is nonexistent, let's hope tonight Brad turns it around.
Yes, non-existent. Except for our last away match, which I believe we won. 
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Originally posted by henry_winkler henry_winkler wrote:

This has got depressing loss written all over it.

Our away form is nonexistent, let's hope tonight Brad turns it around. But I fear a heavy loss.

Awww aren’t you just a little bundle of happiness. 
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This has got depressing loss written all over it.

Our away form is nonexistent, let's hope tonight Brad turns it around. But I fear a heavy loss.
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Originally posted by solva solva wrote:

I suppose it’s one of the beauties of being a Scarlets supporter that we never do things the easy way. It grabs the attention though. But some time can we just have a simple clean run in to collect a cup or two?  Then we can revert to type.    Can’t wait for KO 


It seems cheap, but honestly the ref cheated the Scarlets out of a win in Toulon in the last 10 minutes.
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Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:

  Our selection , tells me we are going to take them on up front, and then a massive  impact from the bench!! 


Agreed. He's started with teams that should be closing out games too often. Need the win first of all. Now we know we need the bonus as well.
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I suppose it’s one of the beauties of being a Scarlets supporter that we never do things the easy way. It grabs the attention though. But some time can we just have a simple clean run in to collect a cup or two?  Then we can revert to type.    Can’t wait for KO 

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