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    Posted: 21 October 2020 at 9:26am
Originally posted by Sosban89 Sosban89 wrote:

The whole system is really poor. I'm pretty confident you can take 3 moderately intelligent people off of this forum or any rugby forum and they could come up with a more consistent and fair framework. It's embarrassing for a professional sport to be run in this manner. 
100% agree. When you see some of the decisions in all sports, some of which are baffling without any way to find out the thought process, its so frustrating.
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The whole system is really poor. I'm pretty confident you can take 3 moderately intelligent people off of this forum or any rugby forum and they could come up with a more consistent and fair framework. It's embarrassing for a professional sport to be run in this manner. 
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

I like the weeks as it covers all competitions.

As an aside, I assume there is a pause on the weeks when there is no rugby? So if this happened in the last match of a normal ending season, the fallow weeks wouldn't count?

Joe Marler had a 10 week ban for grabbing AWJ's balls.  He didn't miss a single game
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

I like the weeks as it covers all competitions.

As an aside, I assume there is a pause on the weeks when there is no rugby? So if this happened in the last match of a normal ending season, the fallow weeks wouldn't count?
Sam Lousi only missed 1 game of his previous red card due to covid. Irish player had a month suspension for failing a drug test... He missed 1 game. Normal ending season, the ban will carry on. But I think then it will include preseason friendlies then as well. Not 100% though. 
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I like the weeks as it covers all competitions.

As an aside, I assume there is a pause on the weeks when there is no rugby? So if this happened in the last match of a normal ending season, the fallow weeks wouldn't count?
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Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

He had a 4 week ban not 4 matches. He misses 3 league games and a friendly within that 4 weeks. If there were 4 league games, he'd have missed 4 league games within the 4 week period... If there was only 1 game, he'd have missed one game. The pros and cons of having suspensions in weeks not games. 

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The bans should always be in games not weeks imo. However, it works in our favour on this occasion so I won't grumble
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He had a 4 week ban not 4 matches. He misses 3 league games and a friendly within that 4 weeks. If there were 4 league games, he'd have missed 4 league games within the 4 week period... If there was only 1 game, he'd have missed one game. The pros and cons of having suspensions in weeks not games. 
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Originally posted by insidehalf insidehalf wrote:

Does the friendly against the Dragons count as one of Sam's 4 game ban, same as our friendly against the Ospreys counted as one of George North's ban?
If so then it should. Looking forward to the 3 friendlies this week against Felinfoel, Bynea and New Dock Stars LOLLOL
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Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Originally posted by insidehalf insidehalf wrote:

Does the friendly against the Dragons count as one of Sam's 4 game ban, same as our friendly against the Ospreys counted as one of George North's ban?
Yes. Personally find it ridiculous but certainly won’t complain! 
I think Sam’s ban was in weeks so the status of that Dragons game or any others would be immaterial. 

Not sure re George’s ban, although I think I recall x meaningful games.
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Originally posted by insidehalf insidehalf wrote:

Does the friendly against the Dragons count as one of Sam's 4 game ban, same as our friendly against the Ospreys counted as one of George North's ban?
Yes. Personally find it ridiculous but certainly won’t complain! 
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Does the friendly against the Dragons count as one of Sam's 4 game ban, same as our friendly against the Ospreys counted as one of George North's ban?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote greypower1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 October 2020 at 9:19am
Originally posted by mr geraint mr geraint wrote:

There should be a worldwide panel, reviewing video and making decisions without any money-spinning, jobs for your QC mates hearings.
They should be based in a low tier nation (Spain?) and any team can just ask them to review an incident.
Teams who spam empty review requests would get a fine.
They would remove mitigation for good behaviour.
They would apply increases for bad behaviour.
I would also suggest an automatic lengthening of sentence for current internationals.

You missed out tar and feathering and jail time!
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

you can cite other cases till the cows come home but the thing is if he was more disciplined on the field he wouldn't be in this position,this instance was an attempted tackle but out in munster he was swinging haymakers his team mates and supporters don't need that.

I agree Nigel - any more problems and he becomes a total liability who is not worth a new contract. Discipline is a huge part of the modern game. Our penalty count is one of the highest after two rounds. Carry on like that & we are not going to win many games. 

Totally agree with you both there. We have great jacklers over the ball but the player making the tackle has to be quicker in making the movement away from the area - I feel this is something we get pinged with a lot.
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

you can cite other cases till the cows come home but the thing is if he was more disciplined on the field he wouldn't be in this position,this instance was an attempted tackle but out in munster he was swinging haymakers his team mates and supporters don't need that.

I agree Nigel - any more problems and he becomes a total liability who is not worth a new contract. Discipline is a huge part of the modern game. Our penalty count is one of the highest after two rounds. Carry on like that & we are not going to win many games. 
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you can cite other cases till the cows come home but the thing is if he was more disciplined on the field he wouldn't be in this position,this instance was an attempted tackle but out in munster he was swinging haymakers his team mates and supporters don't need that.
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