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    Posted: 02 January 2021 at 12:17am
Originally posted by Dic Penderyn Dic Penderyn wrote:

Originally posted by tannerbankboy tannerbankboy wrote:

The coaches aren't dropping easy passes, making poor passes, being ill disciplined and showing zero flair or attacking intent.  That's down to the players.
Don't the coaches pick the players?
The selection scope is very, very limited with injuries and international call ups.  Basic skills are terrible and not just with us.  It seems the scourge of the modern game, over coached (OK a coaching fault) and lacking basic skills.  Any player selected should be expected to perform to a satisfactory level, not outstanding but competent at least.  What we have seen this season in all countries has been sub standard rubbish and will drive fans away from the game.
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Originally posted by Sosban89 Sosban89 wrote:

Statistically we have conceded the 3rd least amount of points, while being 7th in terms of points scored. 

Across the two conferences we have the 3rd most amount of points. I think, given those stats, however poor the performances, you can't really talk about getting rid of coaches.

4th most, but Connach have two games in hand
 So 5th in a league with Italians and Dragons. So 5th of 9 decent teams. Maybe 10 incl Bennetton.
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Originally posted by Sosban89 Sosban89 wrote:

Statistically we have conceded the 3rd least amount of points, while being 7th in terms of points scored. 

Across the two conferences we have the 3rd most amount of points. I think, given those stats, however poor the performances, you can't really talk about getting rid of coaches.

Okay let's forget the headline of coaches out. I only added to it tonight to not start a new thread. Defence has been great this season. We are no pushover, however where have we progressed? What is our gameplan? Who coaches our back line and skills? Why can't they teach a player to stop overrunning or run a straight line? What has happened to Hardy? Why don't they play Asquith? 
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Statistically we have conceded the 3rd least amount of points, while being 7th in terms of points scored. 

Across the two conferences we have the 3rd most amount of points. I think, given those stats, however poor the performances, you can't really talk about getting rid of coaches.
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Originally posted by Blade Blade wrote:

Great win last night. Gutsy performance from the boys in defence. Morgan looks a great prospect. Congratulations to the team and the coaches. 

As you will see I'm quite happy to praise. Bath was a stormer of a result. However we are awful to watch. The group appear tight I agree, but where are we progressing? Our attack and phase play is woeful. On the plus side darts have improved! 
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Originally posted by tannerbankboy tannerbankboy wrote:

The coaches aren't dropping easy passes, making poor passes, being ill disciplined and showing zero flair or attacking intent.  That's down to the players.
Don't the coaches pick the players?
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The coaches aren't dropping easy passes, making poor passes, being ill disciplined and showing zero flair or attacking intent.  That's down to the players.
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Originally posted by Blade Blade wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

6 games from 7 with the cheating Irish the other game will do for me. Carry on Glenn people on here delusional.  

What is delusional? Please offer me an insight instead of an insult. 
The fact he has had huge injury list a Number of positive Covid tests in squad and the fact we have won so many games usually in horrendous conditions that say he is doing a great job. 
She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Huwbach Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 January 2021 at 9:49pm
[QUOTE=Sosban89]You can look at it two ways. 

- We are winning games, while looking very poor offensively and giving away too many penalties. They often say it's a good trait to win games where you don't play well.

- Yes, we are winning games, but the performances are poor, and there is no indication we are going to step up our performances any time soon.

Either way, only time will tell, everything else is pure conjecture. 
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All I know is we are winning, we beat bath with a big performance and there’s a pandemic. Not an ideal time to talk about sacking the coaches. 
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You can look at it two ways. 

- We are winning games, while looking very poor offensively and giving away too many penalties. They often say it's a good trait to win games where you don't play well.

- Yes, we are winning games, but the performances are poor, and there is no indication we are going to step up our performances any time soon.

Either way, only time will tell, everything else is pure conjecture. 
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Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

I wish people would please be more considerate before posting on here and on social media.

The coaches and players read these posts and those on twitter. 
Well said G. Make one’s point without the personal / demeaning comments of players and coaches would be great new year resolution! 👍 It can’t be helpful to Crys16 as well to meet the club sometimes when some stuff gets too personal 

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Originally posted by Dic Penderyn Dic Penderyn wrote:

Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

It seems a silly point to make but although a lot of games are poor rugby - Delaney’s positivity is infectious. In what is a tough time off the pitch it’s worth having people like that around


I don't think this is a silly point at all.To my mind,there are at least 4 players in the squad who have the right to feel aggrieved by selection,yet there is no evidence on the field,of any dissatisfaction.I'm inclined to believe that Delaney,whatever his failings,is managing morale well.Even though I think that much of what he says is purelyfor effect,I nevertheless find him an infectious character,one to whom I have warmed.He'd definitely be the mood-lifting character in a disaster movie,but not,I think,the leading man.People like that are valuable to an organisation.However,Whiffin,Flannegan,whoever is in charge of our back play,is not up to the job,and should be replaced 
i think it's sam allardyce at the moment.Wink
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Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

It seems a silly point to make but although a lot of games are poor rugby - Delaney’s positivity is infectious. In what is a tough time off the pitch it’s worth having people like that around


I don't think this is a silly point at all.To my mind,there are at least 4 players in the squad who have the right to feel aggrieved by selection,yet there is no evidence on the field,of any dissatisfaction.I'm inclined to believe that Delaney,whatever his failings,is managing morale well.Even though I think that much of what he says is purelyfor effect,I nevertheless find him an infectious character,one to whom I have warmed.He'd definitely be the mood-lifting character in a disaster movie,but not,I think,the leading man.People like that are valuable to an organisation.However,Whiffin,Flannegan,whoever is in charge of our back play,is not up to the job,and should be replaced 


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Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

I wish people would please be more considerate before posting on here and on social media.

The coaches and players read these posts and those on twitter. 

This is a fans forum yes? I'm offering an opinion. It would be very quiet without one. 
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Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

6 games from 7 with the cheating Irish the other game will do for me. Carry on Glenn people on here delusional.  

What is delusional? Please offer me an insight instead of an insult. 
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Originally posted by Huwbach Huwbach wrote:

Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:



 Six wins from 7 games counting Toulon, only loss the controversial defeat to Ulster by 2 points, missing 27 players . Our back play as been not been great,depending on backs fitness for Blues I would change probably 6 players there .

   Blues game needs to be used as a dress rehearsal for Toulon, with only 14 tries scored in 10 games in Pro 14,disappointing .

Rugby is a bonus? Is that a serious point? 
 
 
Good points made. I think we are doing ok. Rugby is a bonus let alone new coaches. 
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