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    Posted: 02 December 2020 at 9:23am
Further to the meeting on Monday, the welsh government has ruled out fans returning in the next few weeks
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Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by scarletsrules scarletsrules wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by scarletsrules scarletsrules wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

I hope they don’t start leaving fans it. Ridiculous enough having the 5 days do as you want at Xmas. 


Nobody will be forced to go to the games. The ones who want to go and will be lucky enough to get a ticket will be the ones who attend.
If someone doesn't feel it safe to go then don't go.
The trial events in England before October and the games in Northern Ireland which have had spectators have proven how it can be done safely


That doesn’t really make sense. It’s not a case of the choice of an individual feeling safe. They could carry the virus onto others. 


Theres no reason this cant be safely dont, if you can fit 2000 fans into PYS amongst the 4 stands, there should be no health danger, if everyone uses their common sense and keeps their distance from people not with them

And there lies the problem. This pandemic has shown that a lot of people have no common sense whatsoever. That’s why we’re still in this position. 

For once, I agree with you - 100%... we in Ceredigion have had very low rates of COVID until recently, when a bunch of idiots in Cardigan thought it a 'good idea' to celebrate the end of the lockdown with a pub crawl, leading to 55 positive tests and 300 contacts...
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Not having a game before Bath could be a problem, but some of our squad have played a lot of club rugby already, so the break might be good for them.  It will also give us the time needed for them to self isolate.
A game against Leinster with an already depleted squad depleted even more due to some positive COVID results and subsequent self isolations could have proved very damaging ahead of european matches (based on result) just as the signs are starting to look good.
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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

[QUOTE=Bys Meri Ann]Referees have been announced for the first 2 rounds of the Champions Cup:

Bath v Scarlets 12 Dec - Alexandre Ruiz (Fr)

Scarlets v Toulon 18 Dec - Wayne Barnes (Eng)

Our home game against Bath in round 4 (23 Jan) will be the live game on Channel 4 that weekend and fingers crossed we'll still be in the mix by then. Shame we haven't got Leinster before the European campaign to see where we're at and to carry on the good work after the Ulster game.
Don’t know anything about the French ref. Is he one if the better ones or a comparative newbie? Wayne Barnes is normally very good so glad we have him over any of the Irish refs.
Ruiz is a decent ref. 

In the past, he was inclined to be a bit fussy. I think that’s no longer the case.

He did deny us a win v Saracens by not giving Foxy the turnover penalty with the clock red. Instead, he gave it to them and they scored a try for the draw and conversion to win it, or have I got that last bit wrong?
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I think Sarries got a draw Steve. 
That was my initial recollection. My qualifying of the result reflected my disgust that we’d been robbed of a win over the unbeaten for ages, audit-dodging, boring rugby playing Londoners.- not that I’m bitterConfused
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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

[QUOTE=Bys Meri Ann]Referees have been announced for the first 2 rounds of the Champions Cup:

Bath v Scarlets 12 Dec - Alexandre Ruiz (Fr)

Scarlets v Toulon 18 Dec - Wayne Barnes (Eng)

Our home game against Bath in round 4 (23 Jan) will be the live game on Channel 4 that weekend and fingers crossed we'll still be in the mix by then. Shame we haven't got Leinster before the European campaign to see where we're at and to carry on the good work after the Ulster game.
Don’t know anything about the French ref. Is he one if the better ones or a comparative newbie? Wayne Barnes is normally very good so glad we have him over any of the Irish refs.
Ruiz is a decent ref. 

In the past, he was inclined to be a bit fussy. I think that’s no longer the case.

He did deny us a win v Saracens by not giving Foxy the turnover penalty with the clock red. Instead, he gave it to them and they scored a try for the draw and conversion to win it, or have I got that last bit wrong?
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I think Sarries got a draw Steve. 
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Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Originally posted by Bys Meri Ann Bys Meri Ann wrote:

Referees have been announced for the first 2 rounds of the Champions Cup:

Bath v Scarlets 12 Dec - Alexandre Ruiz (Fr)

Scarlets v Toulon 18 Dec - Wayne Barnes (Eng)

Our home game against Bath in round 4 (23 Jan) will be the live game on Channel 4 that weekend and fingers crossed we'll still be in the mix by then. Shame we haven't got Leinster before the European campaign to see where we're at and to carry on the good work after the Ulster game.
Don’t know anything about the French ref. Is he one if the better ones or a comparative newbie? Wayne Barnes is normally very good so glad we have him over any of the Irish refs.

Last time Barnes was at the Parc, we beat Toulon and got to the SF. 

Good omen, perhaps??? 
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Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Originally posted by Bys Meri Ann Bys Meri Ann wrote:

Referees have been announced for the first 2 rounds of the Champions Cup:

Bath v Scarlets 12 Dec - Alexandre Ruiz (Fr)

Scarlets v Toulon 18 Dec - Wayne Barnes (Eng)

Our home game against Bath in round 4 (23 Jan) will be the live game on Channel 4 that weekend and fingers crossed we'll still be in the mix by then. Shame we haven't got Leinster before the European campaign to see where we're at and to carry on the good work after the Ulster game.
Don’t know anything about the French ref. Is he one if the better ones or a comparative newbie? Wayne Barnes is normally very good so glad we have him over any of the Irish refs.
Ruiz is a decent ref. 

In the past, he was inclined to be a bit fussy. I think that’s no longer the case.

He did deny us a win v Saracens by not giving Foxy the turnover penalty with the clock red. Instead, he gave it to them and they scored a try for the draw and conversion to win it, or have I got that last bit wrong?
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Originally posted by Bys Meri Ann Bys Meri Ann wrote:

Referees have been announced for the first 2 rounds of the Champions Cup:

Bath v Scarlets 12 Dec - Alexandre Ruiz (Fr)

Scarlets v Toulon 18 Dec - Wayne Barnes (Eng)

Our home game against Bath in round 4 (23 Jan) will be the live game on Channel 4 that weekend and fingers crossed we'll still be in the mix by then. Shame we haven't got Leinster before the European campaign to see where we're at and to carry on the good work after the Ulster game.
Don’t know anything about the French ref. Is he one if the better ones or a comparative newbie? Wayne Barnes is normally very good so glad we have him over any of the Irish refs.
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Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by turkishrebel turkishrebel wrote:

lets hope so Fscarlet. how is foxey? will they risk him on saturday? would rather the centres from saturday have another go. johnny mcnicholl probably out  for england game but hopefully ok for us (selfish) and with adams coming back with liam and halfpenny thats probably back 3 done.
would like pivac to pick as many non scarlets for these games (even more selfish). 

 
if he's done his rib cartilage hell be out for a while, it's very painful and really limits your mobility
 
I'd guess well go with
 
halfpenny liam stef
jonny w foxy
patchell Cawdor
 
wyn elias lee
ball louisi
blade sione and morgan
 
If everyone is fit although asquith  hardy conibeer   McLeod and rob evans will all be in the mix as well

Don't see Foxy making the European games. In reality at the moment I would pick Asquith & Tyler ahead of him on form even if he is fit. Likewise Patchell has it all to do to be ready. I would start with Costelow. He knows no fear and plays what is ahead of him especially if we have Halfpenny to take the pressure of him with goalkicking. 

patchell has looked good in patches, no pun intended. poor old foxy needs time to see if he can get fitness back and to see if he can still compete at this level after the major injuries

Selection now would also depend who has contracted Covid,as they would have to isolate for 14 days..then their contact 10 days 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by turkishrebel turkishrebel wrote:

lets hope so Fscarlet. how is foxey? will they risk him on saturday? would rather the centres from saturday have another go. johnny mcnicholl probably out  for england game but hopefully ok for us (selfish) and with adams coming back with liam and halfpenny thats probably back 3 done.
would like pivac to pick as many non scarlets for these games (even more selfish). 

 
if he's done his rib cartilage hell be out for a while, it's very painful and really limits your mobility
 
I'd guess well go with
 
halfpenny liam stef
jonny w foxy
patchell Cawdor
 
wyn elias lee
ball louisi
blade sione and morgan
 
If everyone is fit although asquith  hardy conibeer   McLeod and rob evans will all be in the mix as well

Don't see Foxy making the European games. In reality at the moment I would pick Asquith & Tyler ahead of him on form even if he is fit. Likewise Patchell has it all to do to be ready. I would start with Costelow. He knows no fear and plays what is ahead of him especially if we have Halfpenny to take the pressure of him with goalkicking. 

patchell has looked good in patches, no pun intended. poor old foxy needs time to see if he can get fitness back and to see if he can still compete at this level after the major injuries
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Not having a game before Bath could be a problem, but some of our squad have played a lot of club rugby already, so the break might be good for them.  It will also give us the time needed for them to self isolate.
A game against Leinster with an already depleted squad depleted even more due to some positive COVID results and subsequent self isolations could have proved very damaging ahead of european matches (based on result) just as the signs are starting to look good.
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Referees have been announced for the first 2 rounds of the Champions Cup:

Bath v Scarlets 12 Dec - Alexandre Ruiz (Fr)

Scarlets v Toulon 18 Dec - Wayne Barnes (Eng)

Our home game against Bath in round 4 (23 Jan) will be the live game on Channel 4 that weekend and fingers crossed we'll still be in the mix by then. Shame we haven't got Leinster before the European campaign to see where we're at and to carry on the good work after the Ulster game.
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Originally posted by scarletsrules scarletsrules wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by scarletsrules scarletsrules wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

I hope they don’t start leaving fans it. Ridiculous enough having the 5 days do as you want at Xmas. 


Nobody will be forced to go to the games. The ones who want to go and will be lucky enough to get a ticket will be the ones who attend.
If someone doesn't feel it safe to go then don't go.
The trial events in England before October and the games in Northern Ireland which have had spectators have proven how it can be done safely


That doesn’t really make sense. It’s not a case of the choice of an individual feeling safe. They could carry the virus onto others. 


Theres no reason this cant be safely dont, if you can fit 2000 fans into PYS amongst the 4 stands, there should be no health danger, if everyone uses their common sense and keeps their distance from people not with them

And there lies the problem. This pandemic has shown that a lot of people have no common sense whatsoever. That’s why we’re still in this position. 
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by scarletsrules scarletsrules wrote:

We cant keep fans away from stadiums for the next year, they need to trial it and if it turns out that an outbreak is linked to one of these games where a crowd has been present then im sure they will then decide that it is not worth the risk , but if they close the terrace and have everyone in seats scattered around then why wouldnt it work? get the security on the case if they see people breaking rules, you cant go to the bar to order you have to download the app on your phone, theres ways around it

 
I agree I just don't see drakeford going for it even less chance of the bars being open in the ground


After his announcement today i would be surprised
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Originally posted by scarletsrules scarletsrules wrote:

We cant keep fans away from stadiums for the next year, they need to trial it and if it turns out that an outbreak is linked to one of these games where a crowd has been present then im sure they will then decide that it is not worth the risk , but if they close the terrace and have everyone in seats scattered around then why wouldnt it work? get the security on the case if they see people breaking rules, you cant go to the bar to order you have to download the app on your phone, theres ways around it
 
I agree I just don't see drakeford going for it even less chance of the bars being open in the ground
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We cant keep fans away from stadiums for the next year, they need to trial it and if it turns out that an outbreak is linked to one of these games where a crowd has been present then im sure they will then decide that it is not worth the risk , but if they close the terrace and have everyone in seats scattered around then why wouldnt it work? get the security on the case if they see people breaking rules, you cant go to the bar to order you have to download the app on your phone, theres ways around it
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