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What do they think was wrong with it?


Oh they've thrown a right poody over Glasgow's pressurising of their star scrum half

http://www.the42.ie/conor-murray-munster-glasgow-3193305-Jan2017/
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Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

Originally posted by Gate12 Gate12 wrote:

What do they think was wrong with it?


Oh they've thrown a right poody over Glasgow's pressurising of their star scrum half

http://www.the42.ie/conor-murray-munster-glasgow-3193305-Jan2017/

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Well done Munster, only gone and notified every open-side in Rugby that Connor Murray doesn't like his Standing Leg being "tickled" !
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Originally posted by scarletman scarletman wrote:

Well done Munster, only gone and notified every open-side in Rugby that Connor Murray doesn't like his Standing Leg being "tickled" !


I think their efforts were more concentrated on preventing people talking out Munster disregarding the HIA protocol for the head knock Murray got.
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In fairness to Munster I saw the game & some of the challenges on Murray were extremely borderline. He was clearly being targeted & I think we would have a lot to say if he was one of our scrum halves. Bad boy Gregor!!!!
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

In fairness to Munster I saw the game & some of the challenges on Murray were extremely borderline. He was clearly being targeted & I think we would have a lot to say if he was one of our scrum halves. Bad boy Gregor!!!!


I really don't understand your opinion. Is a coach not allowed to ask his back row to pressure the half backs?
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Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

[QUOTE=GPR - Rochester] In fairness to Munster I saw the game & some of the challenges on Murray were extremely borderline. He was clearly being targeted & I think we would have a lot to say if he was one of our scrum halves. Bad boy Gregor!!!!


I really don't understand your opinion. Is a coach not allowed to ask his back row to pressure the half backs?[/QUOTE

Did you see the game KID A. Murray was taken out late at almost every opportunity. I agree that the officials should have picked up on it but when it is done cleverly it sometimes gets difficult. I don't believe Murray is expecting special treatment only for the officials to spot & penalise late challenges. Of course pressurising half backs is fine but there is a line. 

Look at how the French teams and National team have targeted Sexton in recent years. I think Murrays point is that even if penalised the risk of serious injury should be taken into account with borderline late challenges targeting the kickers standing foot. 

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Did you see the game KID A. Murray was taken out late at almost every opportunity. I agree that the officials should have picked up on it but when it is done cleverly it sometimes gets difficult. I don't believe Murray is expecting special treatment only for the officials to spot & penalise late challenges. Of course pressurising half backs is fine but there is a line. 

Look at how the French teams and National team have targeted Sexton in recent years. I think Murrays point is that even if penalised the risk of serious injury should be taken into account with borderline late challenges targeting the kickers standing foot. 



Yes I did see the game. That's why I put the clip on this very thread asking what is wrong with it. If a player is not allowed to tackle another player who has the ball, then I do not understand what future rugby union has.
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Did you see the game KID A. Murray was taken out late at almost every opportunity. I agree that the officials should have picked up on it but when it is done cleverly it sometimes gets difficult. I don't believe Murray is expecting special treatment only for the officials to spot & penalise late challenges. Of course pressurising half backs is fine but there is a line. 

Look at how the French teams and National team have targeted Sexton in recent years. I think Murrays point is that even if penalised the risk of serious injury should be taken into account with borderline late challenges targeting the kickers standing foot. 



Yes I did see the game. That's why I put the clip on this very thread asking what is wrong with it. If a player is not allowed to tackle another player who has the ball, then I do not understand what future rugby union has.

Did you not see any late challenges? Suggest you watch it again.
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Did you see the game KID A. Murray was taken out late at almost every opportunity. I agree that the officials should have picked up on it but when it is done cleverly it sometimes gets difficult. I don't believe Murray is expecting special treatment only for the officials to spot & penalise late challenges. Of course pressurising half backs is fine but there is a line. 

Look at how the French teams and National team have targeted Sexton in recent years. I think Murrays point is that even if penalised the risk of serious injury should be taken into account with borderline late challenges targeting the kickers standing foot. 



Yes I did see the game. That's why I put the clip on this very thread asking what is wrong with it. If a player is not allowed to tackle another player who has the ball, then I do not understand what future rugby union has.


Did you not see any late challenges? Suggest you watch it again.


Nope. And neither did any of the officials / citing commisioner.
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Did you at least hear the commentary of the two ex-players who agreed that the treatment of Murray was very borderline. I would not have been happy if it was against a Scarlets no 9. However I do agree that my first port of call if I had been Murray would have been to my back row at scrum time & my defensive pillars at lineout & ruck. They should have taken things into their own hands. 

With regard to citing I don't think any individual offence was citable so I am not surprised. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Did you at least hear the commentary of the two ex-players who agreed that the treatment of Murray was very borderline. I would not have been happy if it was against a Scarlets no 9. However I do agree that my first port of call if I had been Murray would have been to my back row at scrum time & my defensive pillars at lineout & ruck. They should have taken things into their own hands. 

With regard to citing I don't think any individual offence was citable so I am not surprised. 

GPR, out of interest, who were the two ex players ?
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With regard to citing I don't think any individual offence was citable so I am not surprised. 


Why isn't deliberately injuring a player through foul play citable?
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:


With regard to citing I don't think any individual offence was citable so I am not surprised. 


Why isn't deliberately injuring a player through foul play citable?

It is, but who was injured ?

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Originally posted by scarletman scarletman wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Did you at least hear the commentary of the two ex-players who agreed that the treatment of Murray was very borderline. I would not have been happy if it was against a Scarlets no 9. However I do agree that my first port of call if I had been Murray would have been to my back row at scrum time & my defensive pillars at lineout & ruck. They should have taken things into their own hands. 

With regard to citing I don't think any individual offence was citable so I am not surprised. 

GPR, out of interest, who were the two ex players ?

Hi Scarletman - Alan Quinlan was one & the other was the recently retired ex-Glasgow 2nd row captain whose name escapes me. Murray's main point seems to be that the Glasgow back row seemed to continually target his standing foot when box kicking sometimes split seconds after the ball had gone. They certainly did & was very cleverly done. Difficult for the officials because they would be following the ball. To me it was planned & a little cynical but it was done just the right side of the law. However Murray's point is that do we have to wait for someone to have a serious injury before we take action. As I say above I would have been annoyed with my own team mates more as they should have protected him more. 
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