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Sosban bach
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One of the Munster tries showed their 6 coming in like that just before they picked and scored guess they didn't notice that either.
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Mogwen
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That’s a red everyday of the week. Shoulder to head. No questions.
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KID A
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Just in the interest of balance, other competitions seem to have poor officials too. This wasn't picked up by the referee, either linesman or the TMO apparently - the referee appeared to actually give a penalty to the reds!
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aber-fan
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I was pretty baffled by the ref's comment too - looked like a red all day long, and a deliberate attempt to intimidate (at best) or injure (at worst) Cardiff's very handy 10.
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KID A
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I posted this elsewhere - and am quite surprised at the number of people saying it's a knock on. To me, the referee got it spot on. The ball went backwards.
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joni_bach
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To the letter of the law, I think the ref was right. It could have been done with malicious intent but if the ball went backwards, not forwards, there's nothing the ref can do.
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scarletman
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In Law,
A knock-on may occur anywhere in the playing area. It is a knock-on when a player, in tackling or attempting to tackle an opponent, makes contact with the ball and the ball goes forward. ... A player must not intentionally knock the ball forward with hand or arm. Sanction: Penalty. Did the ball go forward- NO No case to answer !
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Eastern outpost
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Clearly went backwards from Cawdor much due to the existing momentum when contact was made.
Shane had a lot of trouble understanding that, which was a surprise. What did surprise me was the scrum restart. I thought Ken had jackalled well and earned a holding on penalty. Maybe it was just a little confusion after the unexpected outcome of the TMO review. Edit - thought that Luke Pearce was very composed, self-reliant/confident and more accurate than usual.
Edited by Eastern outpost - 23 September 2019 at 6:44pm |
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ap sior
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Thought that they got one wrong second half when a Georgian player chased an up and under, went beyond the ball, and took out North. Didn't hear the TMO, ref or AR refer to it. Only saw it live, would like to see it again.
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ap sior
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Another strange decision was arrived at with the Georgia YC. The maul was going over the line, I don't think there was any question of that. Ref however said that there were too many Georgians present.
The point is that those Georgians could not have stopped it going over the line other than the way they did. Had it been open play then I would agree with the ref, but it wasn't. I think that is the first occasion where I've seen a YC offence, for taking down a maul a few metres from the line, when the ref has given a YC, but not awarded a penalty try. It's like a YC in footie for a trip in the box, but then not giving a penalty. I give you Cawdor's YC and pen try against Racing last season !
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After the many tries, I’d temporarily forgotten the incident.
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KID A
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What do we make of Ken's challenge that he received a yellow for? Letter of the law - that is dangerous and could be a citing. I really hope not for Ken as it is unlucky - but it's very clumsy.
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ap sior
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At the last moment before contact the Fijian does jump in to the tackle. That may save Ken. Players are coached to hit up. Arms used, not malicious. Unlucky in my view.
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scarletman
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IMO on field decision was correct.
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