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Tadhg let's hope this isn't a huge mistake already , and thy are resting no him,like the Leinster boys. If not, can he rip the contract up now???
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Originally posted by Mundoscarlet Mundoscarlet wrote:

Aaron is far and away the best 6 and possibly the only 6 of all those names mentioned in my opinion

Thats not totally correct. Moriarty's favoured position is 6 & Warburton has played at 6 for both Wales and the Lions. Its all down to what the coaches see as our gameplan DNA. They talk of playing a fast attacking offloading game featuring forward/backs offloading to support yet they continue to pick players in key roles that defy this stated aim - the biggest being Biggar at 10 so who knows. Until you have your way of playing then it becomes difficult to pick your best squad. 
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Originally posted by Mundoscarlet Mundoscarlet wrote:

Tadhg let's hope this isn't a huge mistake already , and thy are resting no him,like the Leinster boys. If not, can he rip the contract up now???

I am surprised that Tahdg isn't on the bench. I never thought he would be catapulted straight into the test team ahead of Henderson & Ryan. He has got work to do to convince Schmidt that he is his type of player. Lets be honest Schmidt must have been aware of Tadhg in his Leinster days as a coach so he was part of the set up that let him go. Henderson is a Lion and Ryan will be a Lion next time so he has stern competition. 
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It wouldn't bother me one bit if we lost this game, as long as they come out uninjured at the end that's all that matters.
 
 
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As Samson is injured and Rob may well need a rest, could the front 5 of the scrum be any stronger based on who is on tour? I'm not totally convinced by Thomas Francis and from what I've seen of Argentina and the Jaguares over the past two seasons their scrumaging is average. But they are very mobile and strong at rucking. I expect us to be able to win our own ball from scrums, even though we won't cause theirs much trouble.
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Mundoscarlet Mundoscarlet wrote:

Tadhg let's hope this isn't a huge mistake already , and thy are resting no him,like the Leinster boys. If not, can he rip the contract up now???

I am surprised that Tahdg isn't on the bench. I never thought he would be catapulted straight into the test team ahead of Henderson & Ryan. He has got work to do to convince Schmidt that he is his type of player. Lets be honest Schmidt must have been aware of Tadhg in his Leinster days as a coach so he was part of the set up that let him go. Henderson is a Lion and Ryan will be a Lion next time so he has stern competition. 


FWIW there were not many, if any actually, that thought that Tadhg would be in the match day squad from the various rugby forums I have read today.
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Good to see young guys getting a go...pretty sure next week will be the first choice pack and new guys in the backs where possible.
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Originally posted by Mogwen Mogwen wrote:

In all honesty, beard has yet to impress at any level apart from the u20’s. He’s a big lump of a bloke, but doesn’t use it effectively. Hopefully I’m wrong on this tour. I would have preferred to see Jenkins at 6 and Seb Davies at 5.
Correct, I'm not sure what the fuss is about Beard but then we also see Wainwright in the squad?????
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Mundoscarlet Mundoscarlet wrote:

Tadhg let's hope this isn't a huge mistake already , and thy are resting no him,like the Leinster boys. If not, can he rip the contract up now???

I am surprised that Tahdg isn't on the bench. I never thought he would be catapulted straight into the test team ahead of Henderson & Ryan. He has got work to do to convince Schmidt that he is his type of player. Lets be honest Schmidt must have been aware of Tadhg in his Leinster days as a coach so he was part of the set up that let him go. Henderson is a Lion and Ryan will be a Lion next time so he has stern competition. 


FWIW there were not many, if any actually, that thought that Tadhg would be in the match day squad from the various rugby forums I have read today.
It took us a while to select him to be fair but what a player he was from there on. He has nothing more to prove that he is bang up there with Irelands best so, given that he is now available not to pick him seems as though they think he does still has something to prove. IMHO He's much better all round than Henderson.


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Andrew Brace is the Welsh (ok Irish but he was born in Cardiff) referee for this match.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GPR - Rochester Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 June 2018 at 1:15pm
Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Mundoscarlet Mundoscarlet wrote:

Tadhg let's hope this isn't a huge mistake already , and thy are resting no him,like the Leinster boys. If not, can he rip the contract up now???

I am surprised that Tahdg isn't on the bench. I never thought he would be catapulted straight into the test team ahead of Henderson & Ryan. He has got work to do to convince Schmidt that he is his type of player. Lets be honest Schmidt must have been aware of Tadhg in his Leinster days as a coach so he was part of the set up that let him go. Henderson is a Lion and Ryan will be a Lion next time so he has stern competition. 


FWIW there were not many, if any actually, that thought that Tadhg would be in the match day squad from the various rugby forums I have read today.
It took us a while to select him to be fair but what a player he was from there on. He has nothing more to prove that he is bang up there with Irelands best so, given that he is now available not to pick him seems as though they think he does still has something to prove. IMHO He's much better all round than Henderson.

Thats one hell of a claim for someone who as yet to play at International level!!!! We all need to remember the huge step up it is to play in test matches against tier one teams. As I said Henderson is a Lion and he was pushing very hard for a starting spot against AWJ & Itoje. Much as I admire Tadhg I wouldn't burden him with that expectation just yet. 
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Scmidt only starting two players who started the pro14 final (Kearney, Ryan).
Gatland has had six players who started involved in the last two weeks (Steff, Cubby, Cawdor, Patch, Parkes, Scott)
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Originally posted by Rich (Bris) Rich (Bris) wrote:

As Samson is injured and Rob may well need a rest, could the front 5 of the scrum be any stronger based on who is on tour? I'm not totally convinced by Thomas Francis and from what I've seen of Argentina and the Jaguares over the past two seasons their scrumaging is average. But they are very mobile and strong at rucking. I expect us to be able to win our own ball from scrums, even though we won't cause theirs much trouble.

I'd have thought that Tomos Francis is definitely a step up on Dillon Lewis, and Brad Davies is surely better than Beard ATM - but that's just my opinion.
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Francis is shocking and a liability come scrum time.
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Yeah You could be right aber-fan but I think there is not much in it if they are. I think the two starting may have the edge in open play, though I've not seen a great deal of them to be fair.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mundoscarlet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 June 2018 at 6:05pm
If anyone is watching the under 20s , if anyone thinks gerai t Lewis is a future coach of any Wales side good luck. Aus and nz destroyed Japan and we look a shambles
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