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Arguably you could change maybe half dozen of the matchday squad but I agree with what you said. I really do think it's down to staleness in the coaches. Let's hope you're right and we'll see new coaches soon ... preferably by the summer tour. In all seriousness I hope they do the honourable thing at the end of the 6N and go. I'd be happy for Danny Wilson and Stevo to go as caretaker coaches for the summer tour if the WRU need time to find new personnel ... as long as we get Stevo back that is!!! We should be fair and remember that under Gatland et al we've had two Grand Slams, a championship and RWC semi finalists. However we seem to have gone stale over the last four years and it's time for change. |
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We will never know if the youngsters are never given a go if they good enough they could hardly do worse than the current squad. Elias Boyde Young and Cubby up front Owen Williams Sam Davies Beck Stef Evs Giles Hewitt Amos just to name a few that surely deserve go we will never find out if they sitting in stands.
Biggar not up to it Roberts nowhere near class of Beck Tuperic brilliant in loose but too weak and ineffective in rucks and mauls. North suffering with confidence Liam playing out of position. Even AWJ looking shadow of former self. I for one cannot see the justification in picking the same players making same mistakes every game unless we have change of coach to try and inspire the team. |
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She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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Tim Opolis
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This Wales regime, and I include Gatland in that, dont seem to learn anything. There's one way, and that's it. Apparently we're trying to develop a new style, but are we? Just looks like the old smash it up and smash em down to me.
By putting Sanjay on the wing Wales have surreneded a huge amount of metres gained and defenders beaten by Liam's carrying every game. He beats people and makes metres, Halfpenny makes milimetres and is no threat entering the line. Yet 2 years after this debate nothing has changed and the honest but ineffective Halfpenny remains. Cuthbert has been given caps he should never have had, his last game should have been SA in Twickenham. We could have stuck anyone in there and they would have been better than him. Anyone who could basically catch a pass and mark and tackle his winger, that would have done and actually been an improvment on Cuthbert. Roberts, is another. He couldnt impress when playing for Cambridge and has gone backwards at a rate of knots but still gets gifted caps. When there are people like Scott who's had to wait in the wings and Beck who are miles better. On the AWJ/Biggar spat. That does nothing for AWJ's chances of being Lions captain. With 20 minutes left yesterday it was game over. Why? because it would have taken us 20 minutes with 90% possession to score one try, let alone 2. Once Scotland became more competitve at contact we were toast because they have developed their game. 3 years ago they couldnt score in a brothel but now have invention, pace and penetration behind, mostly chanelled through their back 3 which are pacey and skillful. I wish we had lost to England in the world cup, that might have forced a change, a change that the national squad were in desperate need of imo. Sadly, I can see the Lions tour being a disaster as well when the Irish and English players realise what numpties Gatland and Howley are compared to their own national coaches #playerrevolt We're in a hole I'm afraid, and there's no getting out of it for a while. |
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Tymor nesa Duw, plis tymor nesa.
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Dai38
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Rugby has changed a lot over the past 2 years, and we have not changed. There in my opinion is the problem. As I said in my previous post we have wasted the past 12+ months, where we could have changed our approach, and slowly integrated different players. I honestly feel unless there is a minor miracle we will have to wait 10 years for the next good Welsh side, we need to improve on:- A-Skills B-Game management C-Speed D-Attitude to the game--what I mean is that it is a handling game, boosted by kicking, not the other way around. E-Coaching set up All the other nations except for Italy are better than us on the above. In the professional era I don't care who coaches Wales, but we do need a really top class one next time round. I all honesty I think Dai Young will be in with a shout, but will not get it, there are better ones around, and for the money we are paying we should get a good one.
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Be careful when you pick up the stick.........IT MAY BE THE WRONG END!!!!!!!!!!
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lab
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wales really need to start picking players on form and not reputation e.g Cubby in Sam W out......
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reesytheexile
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I have a burning resentment for the way Lewis gave the coaches an extension to 2019. Scandalous stuff. The big hope is that Gatland on his second time off with the Lions goes job hunting and seeks an early release from his contract. We may even make some money from it but if nothing is on the table I would just leave him go. We can then address Howley!
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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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The mystery is why Tipuric is being selected over Sam at 7 when we are still trying to dominate the physicality stakes. I think they're at sixes and sevens (pun intended ) when it comes to tactics and selection. The evidence of my eyes suggests a very limited gameplan. Wrestle up front, a bit of bish bash bosh and hope the backs can finish it off. I could be completely wrong and the players are just failing to execute but honestly, I can't see any poorly executed alternative even. They just look uncertain and most tend to look for contact or kick - if they don't mishandle first! Couple that with players out of position, a team lacking confidence and a captain whose decisions are being undermined and it's no wonder we are where we are. |
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It seems that many have the view that we're stuck with Gatland and co until 2019. We're not. The WRU need some balls and come out an sack them. This is the second time that Gatland has coached the Lions. He's only 'applying' to be the next AB's coach. Gareth Davies should have had the guts to tell Gatland that if he wanted to coach the Lions then he would have to leave the Wales set up to do so. Perhaps then we would have moved forward.
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I'd like to see this for the next game:
Sanjay Halfpenny Foxy Scott Steff Sam D Webb Faletau Sam W Moriarty Charteris Alun Wyn Samson Ken Rob Francis Sam P Smith Jake Tom Young Aled Owain W Giles If we make wholesale changes we'll come undone against Ireland but we also need to give some in form players a crack. I also want to see players playing in their positions so we get the best out of them. |
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good side id go with that, possibly keep francis over samson , otherwise looks a decent balance of form, transition and opportunity
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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Sam is playing well. Not sure if the back row is quite right...couldn't make my mind up on Tips...he was sort of everywhere without actually making a telling contribution anywhere...if that makes sense.
Biggar is the man under real pressure in my view. I was very, very agitated watching his uber conservative touch finders yesterday...4 or 5 times he did it...gained maybe 15-20 mts only...twice kicking from inside Scotlands half and not getting the ball to cross the 22. Having said all of that I genuinely don't have a clue what side we will select next week...it could be the same or it could be all change. |
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Not many options without risking a hammering. Maybe Sam Davies and Steph or Gilles. Don't fancy Sam defending against the Irish back row who will target him big time. Possibly give Roberts the first half running at Sexton and see what happens. No time to transform the mindset of the squad at this stage of the tournament. Tipuric to the bench and start as big a pack as we can muster.
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Keep the faith
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rather get hammering having go than watching turgid clueless rugby we having to endure from our national team at moment.
Howley is ruining chances of players who deserve lions tour. |
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She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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