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Pivac getting into dangerous territory suggesting that Halaholo & Jonny will need to be much better than real Welsh alternatives. Either they are eligible or they are not. Currently we have Adams who is on form the first name in the back 3, then we have Liam at FB or if not available Leigh. The interesting selection is at 14. On recent form ( past 18 months) Jonny is streets ahead of all other challengers - North, Amos, Lane & Holmes.

At 12 the situation is completely different. If Pivac is true to his word then both Halaholo & the current incumbent Parkes will struggle to be selected ahead of Scott & Watkin. I also remain convinced that Gatland, given his clearly limited gameplan, would have been far better served in Japan with Jamie Roberts at 12. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Pivac getting into dangerous territory suggesting that Halaholo & Jonny will need to be much better than real Welsh alternatives. Either they are eligible or they are not. Currently we have Adams who is on form the first name in the back 3, then we have Liam at FB or if not available Leigh. The interesting selection is at 14. On recent form ( past 18 months) Jonny is streets ahead of all other challengers - North, Amos, Lane & Holmes.

At 12 the situation is completely different. If Pivac is true to his word then both Halaholo & the current incumbent Parkes will struggle to be selected ahead of Scott & Watkin. I also remain convinced that Gatland, given his clearly limited gameplan, would have been far better served in Japan with Jamie Roberts at 12. 

The WM is being a bit naughty here in using a partial quote. What Pivac actually said was this:

"I've got a rule of thumb that if we select someone on the residential rules, in the view of the selectors they have to be playing that much better than the local."

"THAT much better" surely means, a bit better - a measurable difference - rather than "MUCH better", which implies a gulf in performance.

Pivac will learn how to weigh his words more carefully, for fear of mis-quoting or misrepresentation, in future!
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Ok so what team will he select. I would think that Jonny is a shoe in to start. My guess would be :-

15. Halfers 14. Jonny 13. Watkin 12. Parkes 11. Adams 10. Evans 9. Cawdor
1. Wyn 2. Ken 3. Samson 4. Jake 5. Beard 6. Lewis-Hughes 7. Tipuric 8. Wainwright

16. Dee 17. Rob 18. Lewis 19. Seb 20. Basham 21. Tomos 22. Sam 23. Lane 

The ability of Aaron to cover the back 5 & Amos to cover back 3 and at a push 13 may make them favourites for the 24th & 25th men.  Hopefully that would mean we get Steff & Ryan back for the Belfast trip. 

Finally great to see Scott back training with the squad. Hope he can put his fitness issues behind him & reclaim his 12 jersey for the 6 nations. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Ok so what team will he select. I would think that Jonny is a shoe in to start. My guess would be :-

15. Halfers 14. Jonny 13. Watkin 12. Parkes 11. Adams 10. Evans 9. Cawdor
1. Wyn 2. Ken 3. Samson 4. Jake 5. Beard 6. Lewis-Hughes 7. Tipuric 8. Wainwright

16. Dee 17. Rob 18. Lewis 19. Seb 20. Basham 21. Tomos 22. Sam 23. Lane 

The ability of Aaron to cover the back 5 & Amos to cover back 3 and at a push 13 may make them favourites for the 24th & 25th men.  Hopefully that would mean we get Steff & Ryan back for the Belfast trip. 

Finally great to see Scott back training with the squad. Hope he can put his fitness issues behind him & reclaim his 12 jersey for the 6 nations. 


As it's just an exhibition game I would like to think that they'd have one eye on helping the regions also, there's nothing on this Barbarians game.

Think the backs will be bang on, maybe McNicholl full back.

Would hope they'd leave one of Wyn Jones or Rob Evans at the region, same goes for one of Ken Owens or Ryan Elias. Would be nice if they left one of McNicholl or Halfpenny at the region also but can't see it unfortunately.
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Originally posted by crj89 crj89 wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Ok so what team will he select. I would think that Jonny is a shoe in to start. My guess would be :-

15. Halfers 14. Jonny 13. Watkin 12. Parkes 11. Adams 10. Evans 9. Cawdor
1. Wyn 2. Ken 3. Samson 4. Jake 5. Beard 6. Lewis-Hughes 7. Tipuric 8. Wainwright

16. Dee 17. Rob 18. Lewis 19. Seb 20. Basham 21. Tomos 22. Sam 23. Lane 

The ability of Aaron to cover the back 5 & Amos to cover back 3 and at a push 13 may make them favourites for the 24th & 25th men.  Hopefully that would mean we get Steff & Ryan back for the Belfast trip. 

Finally great to see Scott back training with the squad. Hope he can put his fitness issues behind him & reclaim his 12 jersey for the 6 nations. 


As it's just an exhibition game I would like to think that they'd have one eye on helping the regions also, there's nothing on this Barbarians game.

Think the backs will be bang on, maybe McNicholl full back.

Would hope they'd leave one of Wyn Jones or Rob Evans at the region, same goes for one of Ken Owens or Ryan Elias. Would be nice if they left one of McNicholl or Halfpenny at the region also but can't see it unfortunately.


I can't see that the WRU has given the regions even a seconds thought when arranging this match. Filling their coffers being their only concern. Other unions have managed to plan for RWC this year without AI's.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote NobbySosban Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 November 2019 at 5:21pm
Nice little insight to the Wales camp under Pivac - https://www.facebook.com/WelshRugbyUnion/videos/789568494813598/

Johnny Mc in Wales stash looks a natural - he's getting Welsh anthem lessons from Steff H. Tongue


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anyone know where the baa baas will be out in cardiff this week im up here doing a course and i got my end of course social tomorrow would b good to see them out on their team social
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Originally posted by Realwest Realwest wrote:

anyone know where the baa baas will be out in cardiff this week im up here doing a course and i got my end of course social tomorrow would b good to see them out on their team social


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Wales side announced at 11.
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Anyone with any news of any players released back to the clubs?
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Wales side announced at 11.
In time for us to have a couple back then hopefully although wouldn’t be surprised if brad has already picked his team.
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Anyone with any news of any players released back to the clubs?


I'd like to think we could get a prop & a hooker back at the very least.
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What’s this about God Save the Queen being played for the Ba Bas as their anthem? 🤔
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1. Wyn Jones
2. Ken Owens
3. Dillon Lewis
4. Jake Ball
5. Adam Beard
6. Aaron Shingler
7. Justin Tipuric (c)
8. Aaron Wainwright

9. Tomos Williams
10. Jarrod Evans
11. Josh Adams
12. Hadleigh Parkes
13. Owen Watkin
14. Johnny McNicholl
15. Leigh Halfpenny

Replacements:

16. Elliot Dee
17. Rob Evans
18. Leon Brown
19. Seb Davies
20. Ollie Griffiths
21. Gareth Davies
22. Sam Davies
23. Owen Lane​

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Thats Steff, Ryan & Samson should be available for Ulster.
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Thats Steff, Ryan & Samson should be available for Ulster.


Less than an hour to find out.


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