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    Posted: 10 March 2019 at 3:59pm
First half of Ireland v France complete. Ireland back on form, never seen a team encamped in the opposition half for so long, not to mention in the 22. Surprised it's only 19-0.

Ref pretty kind to Ireland at the breakdown, but France not at the races.

Wales will have defend the driving maul very well and sort out our lineout. Sexton using the pop pass and inside pass to great effect.

Heads up our defensive line.
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Ref having a stinker. How many times have ireland taken out the tackler before the tackle is complete? Each time the attacker beats the gain line. Complete unfair advantage which shoulx result in a pen each time
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Originally posted by Mogwen Mogwen wrote:

Ref having a stinker. How many times have ireland taken out the tackler before the tackle is complete? Each time the attacker beats the gain line. Complete unfair advantage which shoulx result in a pen each time

Well it must be ok to do it. Poite thought it was ok too in the SF at the Aviva last season.

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Its something we should target against them too
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Nonsense, ref warned France twice and then the French took out the lifters no card.
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Nonsense, ref warned France twice and then the French took out the lifters no card.


Exactly - warned france but let ireland get away with it.
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Third warning, four scrum penalties.Yellow card.

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Originally posted by Antietam1 Antietam1 wrote:

Nonsense, ref warned France twice and then the French took out the lifters no card.

Cone on mate ! This man's a joker ! He thought that Serevi's challenge on Halfpenny was ok ! AWJ asked him about 'duty of care', and he ignored him !
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Significant 2nd half moment, Ireland BP score, inside pop pass to Earls in a pre-planned lineout move!

Ref might have been a bit iffy, but Ireland were in a different class. Wales mustn't give Sexton and Murray the time they had today.

Also aimless kicking to their back three will be punished.

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ireland like wales put in a great first half...second half both fell away, wales moreso....but scots away is a far harder game than france at home....

i think theyre vulnerable in defence...their aerial defence was appalling against england..as was their chase back defence....they were all fingers and thumbs on the back foot. they lost the collisions and then they lost the plot..sexton is a genius on the front foot, but on the back hes a petty child...north foxy sanjay adams can seriously test them , north ran through earls with ease last time in cardiff...the maul is their weapon but its ours too....they love to try and truck and trail illegally. They also hit tacklers illegally and hold on after the tackle a lot...Sometimes they get away with it with a weak ref, we need to put these thoughts in the refs mind all week and awj and ken need to be in the refs face, politely of course.

in attack they just bully  you one up runners, pick and drive, the odd inside pass... sexton is a box of tricks, with his kicking variety and his runarounds so keep an eye on him...Their team is much the same as when we beat them 3 tries to nil 2 years ago...aki is in for henshaw, stockdale has rocketed on the scene over zebo , the back row swaps obrien and heaslip for van der flier and omahoney....obrien and heaslip were better carriers...peter o moaney is a lineout breakdown guy and always moaning to the ref..stander was there before hes a handful. 

I think we need to match their scrum, win our lineouts, win the breakdown with our experienced mobile back row...cut out errors....play in the their half. But I really think we can crack them from first phase as we did in 2017....Id take our threequarters over theirs.

Gats has won 8 lost 7 against them...but that record has improved in recent few years.
Its a massive clash, world number 2 V world number 3.
The psychology is interesting. Theyve won 2 grand slams in the last 15 years weve won 3, theyve dominated us at regional rugby, partly as theyre a lot richer.  weve won 13 in a row, but theyve beaten the all blacks twice in 2 years, weve beaten everyone bar the all blacks.. We beat england convincingly , they got hammered by england.. 

Is home advantage the crucial factor? I certainly wouldnt be so confident in dublin...But in front of a welsh crowd demanding a grand slam? Different kettle of fish.

By the way do you think the oirish will want the roof open to the elements?


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Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

ireland like wales put in a great first half...second half both fell away, wales moreso....but scots away is a far harder game than france at home....

i think theyre vulnerable in defence...their aerial defence was appalling against england..as was their chase back defence....they were all fingers and thumbs on the back foot. they lost the collisions and then they lost the plot..sexton is a genius on the front foot, but on the back hes a petty child...north foxy sanjay adams can seriously test them , north ran through earls with ease last time in cardiff...the maul is their weapon but its ours too....they love to try and truck and trail illegally. They also hit tacklers illegally and hold on after the tackle a lot...Sometimes they get away with it with a weak ref, we need to put these thoughts in the refs mind all week and awj and ken need to be in the refs face, politely of course.

in attack they just bully  you one up runners, pick and drive, the odd inside pass... sexton is a box of tricks, with his kicking variety and his runarounds so keep an eye on him...Their team is much the same as when we beat them 3 tries to nil 2 years ago...aki is in for henshaw, stockdale has rocketed on the scene over zebo , the back row swaps obrien and heaslip for van der flier and omahoney....obrien and heaslip were better carriers...peter o moaney is a lineout breakdown guy and always moaning to the ref..stander was there before hes a handful. 

I think we need to match their scrum, win our lineouts, win the breakdown with our experienced mobile back row...cut out errors....play in the their half. But I really think we can crack them from first phase as we did in 2017....Id take our threequarters over theirs.

Gats has won 8 lost 7 against them...but that record has improved in recent few years.
Its a massive clash, world number 2 V world number 3.
The psychology is interesting. Theyve won 2 grand slams in the last 15 years weve won 3, theyve dominated us at regional rugby, partly as theyre a lot richer.  weve won 13 in a row, but theyve beaten the all blacks twice in 2 years, weve beaten everyone bar the all blacks.. We beat england convincingly , they got hammered by england.. 

Is home advantage the crucial factor? I certainly wouldnt be so confident in dublin...But in front of a welsh crowd demanding a grand slam? Different kettle of fish.

By the way do you think the oirish will want the roof open to the elements?
O'brien back next week VDF injured.
Beirne too.
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Originally posted by Antietam1 Antietam1 wrote:

Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

ireland like wales put in a great first half...second half both fell away, wales moreso....but scots away is a far harder game than france at home....

i think theyre vulnerable in defence...their aerial defence was appalling against england..as was their chase back defence....they were all fingers and thumbs on the back foot. they lost the collisions and then they lost the plot..sexton is a genius on the front foot, but on the back hes a petty child...north foxy sanjay adams can seriously test them , north ran through earls with ease last time in cardiff...the maul is their weapon but its ours too....they love to try and truck and trail illegally. They also hit tacklers illegally and hold on after the tackle a lot...Sometimes they get away with it with a weak ref, we need to put these thoughts in the refs mind all week and awj and ken need to be in the refs face, politely of course.

in attack they just bully  you one up runners, pick and drive, the odd inside pass... sexton is a box of tricks, with his kicking variety and his runarounds so keep an eye on him...Their team is much the same as when we beat them 3 tries to nil 2 years ago...aki is in for henshaw, stockdale has rocketed on the scene over zebo , the back row swaps obrien and heaslip for van der flier and omahoney....obrien and heaslip were better carriers...peter o moaney is a lineout breakdown guy and always moaning to the ref..stander was there before hes a handful. 

I think we need to match their scrum, win our lineouts, win the breakdown with our experienced mobile back row...cut out errors....play in the their half. But I really think we can crack them from first phase as we did in 2017....Id take our threequarters over theirs.

Gats has won 8 lost 7 against them...but that record has improved in recent few years.
Its a massive clash, world number 2 V world number 3.
The psychology is interesting. Theyve won 2 grand slams in the last 15 years weve won 3, theyve dominated us at regional rugby, partly as theyre a lot richer.  weve won 13 in a row, but theyve beaten the all blacks twice in 2 years, weve beaten everyone bar the all blacks.. We beat england convincingly , they got hammered by england.. 

Is home advantage the crucial factor? I certainly wouldnt be so confident in dublin...But in front of a welsh crowd demanding a grand slam? Different kettle of fish.

By the way do you think the oirish will want the roof open to the elements?
O'brien back next week VDF injured.
Beirne too.

cheers for that, obrien is solid, but doesnt worry us we know all about him, hes a bit of a one trick pony and not the best breakdown forward imo....has beirne been on the pitch this 6 nations? 
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Originally posted by surfing-mtber surfing-mtber wrote:

First half of Ireland v France complete. Ireland back on form, never seen a team encamped in the opposition half for so long, not to mention in the 22. Surprised it's only 19-0.

Ref pretty kind to Ireland at the breakdown, but France not at the races.

Wales will have defend the driving maul very well and sort out our lineout. Sexton using the pop pass and inside pass to great effect.

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How come the ref is always blamed when Ireland play?
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Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

How come the ref is always blamed when Ireland play?

because they cheat better than us....and so do the all blacks
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Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

How come the ref is always blamed when Ireland play?


because they cheat better than us....and so do the all blacks
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