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    Posted: 16 July 2017 at 12:32pm
According to Wales online the new Pro14 will be split into two conferences and we will only play Ospreys once, home or away.
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We really need this Pro12 initiative to fail unfortunately. It is killing every ounce of momentum the domestic game in Wales has. Which wasn't much to begin with.

Perhaps then, a proper competition can be implemented.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Eastern outpost Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 July 2017 at 1:02pm
If there is a two conference system, there's 5 league home games (& away) to be replaced by something else.
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one step forward, 10 back - we cant lose Scarlets v Ospreys from a fixture list surely!!! 
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It definitely feels like selling you're soul and dumping on your real power base, in order to make a quick buck from elsewhere.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Speedy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 July 2017 at 2:17pm
Originally posted by ScarletSpiderman ScarletSpiderman wrote:

It definitely feels like selling you're soul and dumping on your real power base, in order to make a quick buck from elsewhere.

Yeah its like moffet and 2003 all over again.

Groundhog day.
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there is no way one extra game against a bunch of saffers, who are only in the league to gain european contracts elsewhere, are worth halving our fixture list for!

Its taken since 2003 to finally start building luke warm rivalries with the Irish and Scottish teams to replace the games v Ponty etc.

Now we wanna start again?

14 team league home and away. 

In the meantime send Llanelli rfc into the English system. 
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I'll still not believe they are joining till they play their first Pro 14 game and, like much of what WOL say I'll take this with a big dose of sales.

The best Cheetahs and Kings players will move to the other Super Rugby sides and, on that basis, where is this £10m extra TV and sponsorship money going to come from?,
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Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

We really need this Pro12 initiative to fail unfortunately. It is killing every ounce of momentum the domestic game in Wales has. Which wasn't much to begin with.

Perhaps then, a proper competition can be implemented.


Like what exactly? People bemoaning the lack of welsh fixtures, do you or they want to go back to a welsh league and play Ponty and Poola etc.

The game has gone professional, its all about the money.

People are saying this new league is a dog's dinner, they're spot on as it happens, but so is the current league. The only differance is that next season's dog's dinner will provide us with more revenue. It's not about what the paying fans want, hasnt been for years, just look at fixture times. Its about TV revenue, end of.


Edited by Tim Opolis - 16 July 2017 at 3:33pm
Tymor nesa Duw, plis tymor nesa.
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Currently, all Pro12 teams get a £1m each per year from TV revenue.
Inclusion of SA sides will make this figure jump by £8m PER SIDE per season. Makes total financial sense.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Eastern outpost Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 July 2017 at 3:36pm
Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Currently, all Pro12 teams get a £1m each per year from TV revenue.
Inclusion of SA sides will make this figure jump by £8m PER SIDE per season. Makes total financial sense.
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Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Currently, all Pro12 teams get a £1m each per year from TV revenue.
Inclusion of SA sides will make this figure jump by £8m PER SIDE per season. Makes total financial sense.
There is no way we're going to be getting £8m more per team each season from the deal. The estimated figure was somewhere between £500-800k
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote minded Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 July 2017 at 3:55pm
Originally posted by minded minded wrote:

Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Currently, all Pro12 teams get a £1m each per year from TV revenue.
Inclusion of SA sides will make this figure jump by £8m PER SIDE per season. Makes total financial sense.
There is no way we're going to be getting £8m more per team each season from the deal. The estimated figure was somewhere between £500-800k
Sorry i'n going to have to respond to this again, are you saying you think this SA  tv deal is worth £100m to add to the some £12m the league is currently getting?
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The way the two groups are likely to be lined up we'd have easier fixtures if we had come second ironically.
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If this proposal of a new league system goes ahead I can see fans staying away splitting the Welsh teams up and losing Welsh derbies absolute madness

And also read about South African sides coming to play in Anglo Welsh Cup
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Originally posted by Tim Opolis Tim Opolis wrote:

Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

We really need this Pro12 initiative to fail unfortunately. It is killing every ounce of momentum the domestic game in Wales has. Which wasn't much to begin with.

Perhaps then, a proper competition can be implemented.


Like what exactly? People bemoaning the lack of welsh fixtures, do you or they want to go back to a welsh league and play Ponty and Poola etc.

The game has gone professional, its all about the money.

People are saying this new league is a dog's dinner, they're spot on as it happens, but so is the current league. The only differance is that next season's dog's dinner will provide us with more revenue. It's not about what the paying fans want, hasnt been for years, just look at fixture times. Its about TV revenue, end of.



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