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    Posted: 17 September 2018 at 9:37am
It's important to notice and celebrate small successes, particularly temporary ones, don't you think? Smile

Drovers lead the WP after Round 3, just ahead of Merthyr on points difference, after one home and two away games each.  It's hard to see that lasting, but so far, so good.


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Bill Shankly: "If you can't support us when we lose or draw, don't support us when we win."
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote salmidach Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 September 2018 at 11:10am
Llanelli have only scored 17 points, that's very alarming. averaging 5 points a game...

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The introduction of the "A" side for Scarlets had a big drain on players for Llanelli side

The A side

15 Morgan Williams, 14 Tomi Lewis, 13 Corey Baldwin, 12 Steffan Hughes © , 11 Steff Evans, 10 Angus O’Brien, 9 Kieran Hardy, 1 Rhys Fawcett, 2 Marc Jones, 3 Simon Gardiner, 4 Josh Helps, 5 Lewis Rawlins, 6 Lewis Ellis-Jones, 7 Shaun Evans, 8 Tom Phillips  Replacements; 16 Jamie Hughes, 17  Dafydd Hughes, 18 Javan Sebastian, 19 Morgan Jones, 20 Chris Long, 21 Declan Smith, 22 Ethan Davies, 23 Ryan Conbeer, 24 Jac Price


It great seeing Drovers up there but tinted with Llanelli at the foot of the table


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Originally posted by Beefs army Beefs army wrote:

The introduction of the "A" side for Scarlets had a big drain on players for Llanelli side

The A side

15 Morgan Williams, 14 Tomi Lewis, 13 Corey Baldwin, 12 Steffan Hughes © , 11 Steff Evans, 10 Angus O’Brien, 9 Kieran Hardy, 1 Rhys Fawcett, 2 Marc Jones, 3 Simon Gardiner, 4 Josh Helps, 5 Lewis Rawlins, 6 Lewis Ellis-Jones, 7 Shaun Evans, 8 Tom Phillips  Replacements; 16 Jamie Hughes, 17  Dafydd Hughes, 18 Javan Sebastian, 19 Morgan Jones, 20 Chris Long, 21 Declan Smith, 22 Ethan Davies, 23 Ryan Conbeer, 24 Jac Price


It great seeing Drovers up there but tinted with Llanelli at the foot of the table
Add Dan Davis and Ioan Nicholas playing for the Region and it tells the tale folks....
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The bottom line is that clubs that have forged the closest linkage with their respective regions are the ones most impacted by the A league introduction.

Harsh really.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aber-fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 September 2018 at 1:33pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

The bottom line is that clubs that have forged the closest linkage with their respective regions are the ones most impacted by the A league introduction.

Harsh really.


Fair comment.

It's asking a lot of a place the size of Llanelli to have involvement in three teams at different levels in the structure.

Local boys who either are not good enough, or don't have the ambition, will prefer to turn out for their home town teams, and who can blame them? Then, the best 'regional' players will join the Scarlets' system. That leaves Llanelli RFC in a tricky situation.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dan the Drover Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 September 2018 at 1:55pm
The Drovers squad only lists 10 players under 23, but 5 of them were in that Scarlets A 23.

Just sayin' Smile

(Having said that, only 2 or 3 of the 5 would be first choice).
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 Rfc have no cash and been outbid for players who will play for more cash in Division pathetic state of affairs.

   Its sad to see so many Llanelli boys playing for the Quins and Llandovery, personally I would rather play for Llanelli Rfc and the facilities that come with it than for cash anywhere else .
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SospanMawr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 September 2018 at 6:05pm
Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:


 Rfc have no cash and been outbid for players who will play for more cash in Division pathetic state of affairs.

   Its sad to see so many Llanelli boys playing for the Quins and Llandovery, personally I would rather play for Llanelli Rfc and the facilities that come with it than for cash anywhere else .
No offence but you’re joking right?
These guys are plumbers, electricians, in the case of Ebbw Vale’s Ronnie Kynes a brickie who travels 4 hours a day for work. You can’t seriously expect them to turn down £100+ extra a week?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote 157cb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 September 2018 at 6:42pm
Originally posted by SospanMawr SospanMawr wrote:

Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:


 Rfc have no cash and been outbid for players who will play for more cash in Division pathetic state of affairs.

   Its sad to see so many Llanelli boys playing for the Quins and Llandovery, personally I would rather play for Llanelli Rfc and the facilities that come with it than for cash anywhere else .
No offence but you’re joking right?
These guys are plumbers, electricians, in the case of Ebbw Vale’s Ronnie Kynes a brickie who travels 4 hours a day for work. You can’t seriously expect them to turn down £100+ extra a week?

  Yes I am serious been there got the tee shirt,played for the team I  loved and felt  attached too,  a few extra quid too play for a team I had no attachment too was secondary..
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Originally posted by SospanMawr SospanMawr wrote:

Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:


 Rfc have no cash and been outbid for players who will play for more cash in Division pathetic state of affairs.

   Its sad to see so many Llanelli boys playing for the Quins and Llandovery, personally I would rather play for Llanelli Rfc and the facilities that come with it than for cash anywhere else .
No offence but you’re joking right?
These guys are plumbers, electricians, in the case of Ebbw Vale’s Ronnie Kynes a brickie who travels 4 hours a day for work. You can’t seriously expect them to turn down £100+ extra a week?
 

Well, I can certainly understand why players who will not make it to the higher level ( or like a Sweeney/Lou Read or Damien Welch move down from the top  but are tempted on  very good  wages). However, next season funding will be cut back hugely for Premiership clubs and the WRU have shown that if clubs want to pay inflated wages they will need to fund more themselves. What happens when the money runs out ?usually  players on bigger wages look elsewhere. Llanelli of course, has its own challenges as Llanelli does not take on mature and high waged players and this is compounded by the complication that many young players, who would turn out for Llanelli, are in the A league, where the WRU is sending its funding so Llanelli is obviously at risk of relegation and then gaining funding of a pittance. Hopefully, the region will send back the cavalry at the end of the A league competition but it cannot be guaranteed. At least, if the cavalry return, Llanelli will have played some of the big boys first in Ebbw ,Ponty, Merthyr and on Saturday Llandovery but Llanelli's journey is very different to that of a good chunk of fellow clubs in the league who are not primarily dedicated to the WRU Player Pathway model. Not sure where the dust will settle on all this mind but its tough in the club at present with the young boys doing their best and they gave Merthyr a decent game on Saturday. I would love to know the respective wage bills !!! Shocked
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