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dyniol53
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Interesting posts by people more knowledgeable than me.
I agree the best solution for Welsh pro teams is join English prem The best solution commercially for Welsh, Scottish teams would be British league (probably good for the Irish too but they have a semi-sweet deal as is) I think the expansion of these new SA sides into the URC has already improved the league but that’s coming from a position of the P12/14 being v poor. We’re yet to see what it’s like having their internationals and when they’re at home. The only situation I can see the Welsh clubs getting into the English pyramid would be to accept entry into the lower leagues and work their way up. This would be quite a decade long task and the WRU would have many levers to block this. I can’t quite imagine what sort of crisis England rugby would have to be in - RFU, Clubs etc - to accept 4 welsh pro teams?
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As Kid A rightly pointed out the Welsh teams missed their golden chance many years ago. If I was in charge of the Scarlets and we were offered tomorrow a place in the English championship with two up and two down from the Premiership I would bite their hands off. I don't really care about the Scots & Irish as they do not have the competitive history which the anglo-welsh teams have.
My huge concern is that if the status quo remains with constant financing issues then what we will be left with in 10 years time will look very different from what we have now.
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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Way we’re playing we would be in the third tier of English rugby pretty quickly. I would put money on it that there will not be four Welsh regions in ten years. We cannot fall behind any more than we have otherwise there is a danger we will be jettisoned. There are a lot of people in Welsh right who would love to see us fail.
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She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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I think you are right about there not being 4 regions in 10 years time. The past two seasons has really seen us fall quite quickly from being clearly the best region to now probably 3rd/4th. When the cull comes we need to be back at the top.
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Legendinmybathroom
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Moving to 2 or 3 teams would make matters worse in my opinion. We moan enough now about not producing enough players in certain positions and too many in other positions. If you reduce the number of teams then you reduce the number of academies and thus reduce the number of opportunities for players to succeed at the highest level. unless the WRU are again looking at it from a totally selfish as financial viewpoint, 2 teams would require less financial support (they would never consider funding 2 regions with the same total funding as they would put aside for 4 regions), and hoping that they could select a few more English based players for the national side.
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Lots of good points. The Scottish sides aren’t exactly dominating Europe are they? their national team is improving but hasn’t won anything in my lifetime. Always bare in mind the Irish teams have tax advantages and many people with deep pockets willing to bung them a few euros for a quality overseas international
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Wil Chips
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Connacht totally dismantled a full strength Ulster in a fine performance..
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Shock result that did not expect Connacht to beat ulster Cardiff beat dragons
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Wil Chips
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Certainly played with real fire.
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Kentexile
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All the regions seem to have played better without their Welsh internationals.Three good games. Even the Ospreys have got Munster taking speculative kicks at goal (and failing) to sneak a losing BP
Scott and Watkins look the 2 form centres
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Hats off to the Ospreys, got under the skin of an error strewn and lackluster Munster, and ground out a great win.
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Munster didnt look hungry for it. I might even say complacent and paid the price. Osprey wernt good but seemed to do the basics well. Interesting fact from the english prem today.... 4 games played and there were 70 non english players involved in matchday 23.
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Interesting- So that would mean there weren’t enough English players out today to make one 23 .
England have a huge number of registered players (I was one for around 16 years) but unless they are playing in the Premiership numbers count for nothing
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Think I got my maths a bit wrong there!Even corrected still means an average of 14 English qualified players per 23
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