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Legendinmybathroom ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 May 2017 Location: Burry Port Status: Offline Points: 3009 |
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But only if you have the right form of ID in England. If you don’t have the right form of ID, you can’t vote for the opposition. I just hope that when the report into whether he mislead parliament (I think we all know the answer to that) is released on Monday, it recommends that he’s banned from running as an MP again. As long as he’s able to return to politics there’s always a risk that he could return to government and more worryingly to the position of prime minister - such is his popularity among not only a chuck of Tory voters but also Tory MPs and ministers. Tories will forgive him for anything if it increases the likelihood of them getting into power again, regardless of whether he delivers for the people of the UK. Like I said, a lot of politicians are only in politics for personal gain, not for the electorate/constituents they propose to represent.
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scarletpimp ![]() Veteran ![]() Joined: 22 November 2015 Location: llanelli Status: Offline Points: 2296 |
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The above is the whole conundrum in a nutshell. While he was popular and successful, Tories overlooked everything. Once he was rumbled as being a dishonest charlatan, and popularity and electoral prospects declined , they couldn't get rid of him quick enough . They (the Tories) cannot wash their grubby hands of him , and Truss...it was THEY, who elected both, and we know what happened afterwards.
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I stood yer on tanner bank
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GPR - Rochester ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 December 2014 Location: Rhydcymerau Status: Online Points: 17893 |
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Totally agree.
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GPR - Rochester ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 December 2014 Location: Rhydcymerau Status: Online Points: 17893 |
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Not true legend - if you don't have the right form of ID you cannot vote for anyone. Surely this ID topic has been done to death by us - I am no great fan of Boris or indeed Trump but we don't need to sugar coat any facts to prove their dishonesty. As for Boris being finished in British politics I am not convinced. The tories will probably get blasted at the next election, Sunak will fall on his sword & the tories will be looking for someone to get them back into power - I wouldn't even put ladram's fiver on it not being Boris.
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ap sior ![]() Veteran ![]() Joined: 08 May 2005 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 11212 |
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Read an item yesterday, can't find it now, but since 2019, there have been 12 by-elections. Tories have lost 11. You'd therefore ask how popular is Boris now ? |
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Legendinmybathroom ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 May 2017 Location: Burry Port Status: Offline Points: 3009 |
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I know that, I’m just reiterating the findings from the last lot of local elections in England, where they found that it disproportionately affected the younger voters who were more likely to vote for any of the opposition.
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scarletpimp ![]() Veteran ![]() Joined: 22 November 2015 Location: llanelli Status: Offline Points: 2296 |
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Yet more waffle from Johnson.
He has again attempted to get his best mates into the Lord's , but wanted Sunak to overrule the overseeing committee, who were not happy with Boris 's proposal. Just like that other overgrown schoolboy Trump, Johnson throws his toys out of the plan, when he doesn't get his own way . PATHETIC, REALLY . |
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dr_martinov ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 August 2005 Location: Tycoch Status: Offline Points: 13259 |
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Him and his supporters are pushing the conspiracy theory or Sunak's personal vendetta. It's not, he was found by a Tory majority standards committee to have deliberately mislead parliament. There is no way anyone who attended those gatherings, however briefly, could then honestly claim "rules were followed at all times". This is the bleedin' obvious and everyone knows this. It's funny, yet no surprise, that he has tried to invent further fictions, in this case that he was briefed to say all rules were followed, which the committee will find no evidence to support. I'm done talking about such a pathetic waste of a human being - till the next scandal! - but it amazes me the pro-Johnson papers cannot even report the facts properly. Well, in their headlines and sub-headlines at least. We talk about democracy on here and a free press which people can trust is paramount to that. Some of our paper owners are in fact Tory donors and even Lords, whilst a lot of our news stories in wide circulation media are actually quotes and opinions without any research, cross-examination or justification... i.e. effectively just gossip. I suspect there are actually now only a small number of Johnson supporters but they are very loud, amplified by the media. Just to create a story and sell their papers. My final comment is to repeat exactly why Johnson had to resign as PM: he knowingly appointed a potential sexual offender into a position of power and forced his colleagues to lie on his behalf. Which they did until their lies were too obvious. I have no clue why this has been forgotten.
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scarletpimp ![]() Veteran ![]() Joined: 22 November 2015 Location: llanelli Status: Offline Points: 2296 |
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Personally, I cannot wait to hear the committees verdict. Those on the Parliamentary Standards Committee, loyal Tories , like Bernard Jenkin, most be horrified to hear what the muppet Johnson has said about this impartial, and vital part of British Democracy. I said in my previous post, he is like a pathetic schoolboy, kicking off, because he does'nt like the harsh reality of his school report. It's sickening th honours Johnson has bestowed on his mates like the cretin Rees -Mogg. Fortunately, the other major buffoon, Dorries was denied, but would be in the Lords now, if Boris had his way. The honours system, like the Lords , should be abolished .
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reesytheexile ![]() Veteran ![]() Joined: 11 August 2012 Location: Machynys Status: Offline Points: 17008 |
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And then the brilliant former PM of 49 days Liz Truss is claiming to have a set of ex PM honours list agreed isn’t she? She must have the hide of a rhinoceros!
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Oracle ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 September 2022 Location: North pole Status: Offline Points: 3959 |
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And the brain of a gnat
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scarletpimp ![]() Veteran ![]() Joined: 22 November 2015 Location: llanelli Status: Offline Points: 2296 |
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I cannot fathom who I despise most Thatcher, Johnson or Truss ! HIde rhinoceros us appropriate description for the three.
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GPR - Rochester ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 December 2014 Location: Rhydcymerau Status: Online Points: 17893 |
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There can be no comparisons drawn between Thatcher & the other two in my opinion.
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Oracle ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 September 2022 Location: North pole Status: Offline Points: 3959 |
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If we had PR the country would look vastly different
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ap sior ![]() Veteran ![]() Joined: 08 May 2005 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 11212 |
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Johnson just won't give up.
He's now saying the Bernard Jenkin had a lockdown party of his own to celebrate his wife's birthday. Are there no lengths thst Johnson won't go to ? How does this attack on Jenkin exonerate Johnson from his own 'sins' ?
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Eastern outpost ![]() Rambler ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 March 2012 Location: South Suffolk Status: Offline Points: 21320 |
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How on earth people voted for him to be Prime Minister etc has been beyond me for some considerable time.
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