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haydn_davies
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If we can afford to sign Moriarty while still retaining our current crop of back row players, it's a no-brainer for me.
He covers 6 & 8 and can bring something different to our squad, while at the same time I'm sure his skillset as a player will develop with our coaching. We're carrying a few injuries in the back row this season, we were extremely lucky with the lack of injuries last season. |
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Matthew Cardey
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Think it would be a massive statement of intent by the scarlets to sign another current welsh international following Halfpenny last year, and the re-signing of foxy the previous year. We had years of loosing a quality players, the trend seems to have changed completely. Surely we would be his preferred destination out of the regions but he will essentially be a WRU if he is on a NDC. I just think a player of moriaty s quality should be playing in the champions cup.
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GPR - Rochester
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I would prefer to reserve judgement on Moriarty until we understand the implications of the 20 players out of contract at the end of this season. I am pretty sure the vast majority of those 20 have now made the management aware of their positions.
I still harbour doubts about Moriarty as our 8. He would be 2nd choice at 6 without doubt & I am yet to be convinced he is a natural 8. If we can afford to keep all the players in the 20 we want apart from Beirne & possibly a scrum half then yes on an NDC would give players like Barclay less game time. Situation with Condy will have a bearing of course. Alternatively Pivac is very keen so he sees where he fits our gameplan.
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PE SA
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To be honest, the way Pivac is speaking about him to me shows we are pretty far along negotiations.
As long as we can keep everyone we want to keep (Beirne aside) then great...Barclay is a must keep. |
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Very much this.
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ScarletBear
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Yes, injuries need to be catered for. A couple of years ago I think I read that on average, 23% of your players are out injured - and I expect it is getting worse. Pivac and the Board's job is to plan for this.
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Moriarty would have excelled in those conditions tonight....
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supertaf
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Just had a word from a friend close to Gloucester and apparently the WRU have offered Ross two different NDCs. One for the Dragons and one for the Scarlets BUT the offer is a lot more if he goes to the Dragons. Poor show if that is the case as it's not considering what is best for the player.
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NeylandAllBlack
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Self interest on the part of the WRU. Not in the best interest of Welsh rugby. |
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GPR - Rochester
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If that is true then the Scarlets management need to make their feelings known at the highest level. This type of business goes against everything which regional rugby is about.
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But the Drags one would be alot more because it would be a NDC and the Drags contribution. For us it would just be the NDC. Our contract would be separate. Or would it?
We're going to pay Moriarty alot ourselves so one really wouldnt expect the Drags (=WRU) to pay alot more than us before the NDC. But it is certainly wrong and against various contract laws that the WRU might have information as to what we are bidding when they (=Drags) also are bidding. I'm currently tendering for some business and I would love to know what the opposition is tendering- as they no doubt would love to know what I am doing. |
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ScarletSpiderman
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The NDC has to be 60:40, which is where Scott's NDC fell apart when the Ospreys played silly sods. Or at lease that is how i percieved it.
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GPR - Rochester
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Don't think it works like that. WRU negotiate the full contract & the region agree to pay 40%. I cannot see that what has been reported i.e. WRU offering Moriarty two separate NDC's depending on which region he joins would be allowable within the regional game. I fully understand that the Dragons are less attractive to returning Wales players but that is not the fault of the Scarlets. This suggests that the WRU are hell bent on attempting to level out the -playing strengths of all regions instead of allowing excellence to flourish. All regions should have the same WRU funding & they cannot show bias to any region regardless of ownership. I think it is probably time that NDC's were scrapped and the central monies saved put back into the equally shared pot. Regions must stand or fall by the quality of their management.
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Sandman
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Don’t know how deep our pockets go, but we really need to sign someone like Moriarty if we truly are to progress as Pivac would like us to. There’s absolutely no point what so ever in Moriarty going to the Dragons. He’d just be another Faletau. An outstanding player in a poor side. He’d learn absolutely nothing and probably go backwards in his career.
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NobbySosban
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Agree that current model of NDCs needs an overhaul, but they're probably still necessary in some form in order to retain and return players under the latest SPSP. The whole RSA needs replacing, but not sure how long that might take.
I can see why WRU Gwent want to land a big fish - it would be the keystone to enable Dragons to be a credible outfit, in terms of playing personnel, anyway. It's so chicken & egg. But if they are really brokering different packages for two supposedly otherwise identical NDCs, it's a huge conflict of interest, and something that PRW will find difficult to work with. It could end up with Scarlets and/or Moriarty walking away - he's already under pressure to come and play in Wales, but heaping the pressure on for him to also be the saviour of the Dragons might not be what he wants, and being undervalued by the best Scarlets offer could see him stick with Glaws or even entertain offers from elsewhere in England or France, and to hell with the Wales shirt. Risky. In our favour, Pivac has been clear and consistent in his overtures - that might count for something with Ross. |
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Wil Chips
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So we’re looking at a bidding war with ... with...with the sole employer is it ...
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