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Topic: Amanda Blanc
Posted By: Speedy
Subject: Amanda Blanc
Date Posted: 27 November 2021 at 1:26pm
Resigned.....plenty of smoke smouldering away here online about a big backstory.

Anyone know more?

Kind of strange that all 4 pro clubs released a statement on this.

Watch this space.


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Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 27 November 2021 at 1:29pm
She notably thanked all 4 regions publicly but failed to mention the WRU. Something quite big bubbling under the surface apparently. I'm none the wiser though.


Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 27 November 2021 at 1:50pm
Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

She notably thanked all 4 regions publicly but failed to mention the WRU. Something quite big bubbling under the surface apparently. I'm none the wiser though.

Yeah this is worth keeping an eye on, presume youve been reading the same stuff I have. The sources on this are normally pretty good.


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Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 27 November 2021 at 1:51pm
Aparently its going to be the biggest story in Welsh Rugby history. According to the sources.

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Posted By: Dic Penderyn
Date Posted: 27 November 2021 at 6:38pm
Hurry up aand tell en


Posted By: hartson11
Date Posted: 27 November 2021 at 6:47pm
It’s PhilBB on Gwlad that said that it’s the biggest story in Welsh rugby ever. I’ll take it with a pinch of salt, hardly a proper source.


Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 27 November 2021 at 7:08pm
I’ve looked for information on this all over and I’m afraid I’ve drawn a Blanc 



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Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 27 November 2021 at 7:50pm
Originally posted by hartson11 hartson11 wrote:

It’s PhilBB on Gwlad that said that it’s the biggest story in Welsh rugby ever. I’ll take it with a pinch of salt, hardly a proper source.
He isnt the source. His source is usually bang on.

Has been quite often.


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Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 27 November 2021 at 7:50pm
Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

I’ve looked for information on this all over and I’m afraid I’ve drawn a Blanc 


Thats the key. No media has the balls to run it.


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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 27 November 2021 at 7:52pm
Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

I’ve looked for information on this all over and I’m afraid I’ve drawn a Blanc 


Thats the key. No media has the balls to run it.
Are you saying that the governing body can lean on media outlets to suppress the story, blockbuster or otherwise?

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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 27 November 2021 at 8:19pm
Can someone narrow down the  arena of the gossip :

Sex scandal ?
Money issues/ misuse ?
Bullying?
Lack of support within the WRU?
Better job offer?


😉 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔


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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 27 November 2021 at 8:23pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Can someone narrow down the  arena of the gossip :

Sex scandal ?
Money issues/ misuse ?
Bullying ?
Better job offer?

😉 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
It would be an unusual turn of events for it to be the first option so probably not.

Likewise, for number four, why mention the pro clubs but completely ignore the governing body in her departure press release?

Let’s hope the truth is publicised.


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Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 7:19am
she resigned from her previous job due to personality clashes.


Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 10:12am
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

I’ve looked for information on this all over and I’m afraid I’ve drawn a Blanc 


Thats the key. No media has the balls to run it.
Are you saying that the governing body can lean on media outlets to suppress the story, blockbuster or otherwise?

They dont need to. Its a voluntary act of obedience.


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Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 10:12am
Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

she resigned from her previous job due to personality clashes.

Seems she doesnt suffer fools.

Or geography teachers.


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Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 10:13am
Which job was that?

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Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 10:14am
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Can someone narrow down the  arena of the gossip :

Sex scandal ?
Money issues/ misuse ?
Bullying ?
Better job offer?

😉 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

would any of them qualify as the biggest story in Welsh rugby history? lol.


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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 10:37am
Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Can someone narrow down the  arena of the gossip :

Sex scandal ?
Money issues/ misuse ?
Bullying ?
Better job offer?

😉 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

would any of them qualify as the biggest story in Welsh rugby history? lol.

It may well turn into a big story Speedy 🤔 who knows. Some things are being hidden I suspect by WRU! She has a really impressive CV in business and leadership. Probably terrified the Geography teacher and the accountant! 😂


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Posted By: minded
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 11:46am
Can we keep this thread above board please, not sure how previous roles etc. has any baring on current situation.

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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 12:03pm
Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Which job was that?
CEO of Aviva Europe I believe. Big job 

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Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 12:03pm
Originally posted by minded minded wrote:

Can we keep this thread above board please, not sure how previous roles etc. has any baring on current situation.

Its not my intention to cause trouble for trouble sake.

But can I respectfully challenge you on that?

I believe it has everything to do with it when incompetence is at large, and not being made accountable.

When we are talking someone being in charge of a massive business that is wholly under qualified and lacking any relevant experience. Then I feel its the rights of those that suffer their inept leadership to question it.

Or else we live in a world without accountability and integrity.


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Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 12:05pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Which job was that?
CEO of Aviva Europe I believe. Big job 

I knew that, I wanted someone else to type it on here, and for people to take a look at what we are witnessing here.

Thank you.


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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 12:08pm
Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Which job was that?
CEO of Aviva Europe I believe. Big job 

I knew that, I wanted someone else to type it on here, and for people to take a look at what we are witnessing here.

Thank you.
in fact it’s Europe , Middle East and Africa on checking Wikipedia! Very impressive business career  and she is Welsh! She is better qualified to run the WRU than Rob Butcher! 

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Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 12:11pm
Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

I’ve looked for information on this all over and I’m afraid I’ve drawn a Blanc 


Thats the key. No media has the balls to run it.
This is absolute crap. Keep your eyes peeled 

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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 12:18pm
Amanda Blanc still is the Group CEO of Aviva. She started in July 2020. Her previous roles were at a similar level and within financial services with Zurich & AXA.

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Posted By: hartson11
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 12:19pm
I love it when Scarletnut casually drops a hint in to the chat.

Not just saying this as you’re a forum member, but genuinely one of the best Welsh rugby journos around. Keep up the good work.


Posted By: minded
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 1:14pm
Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by minded minded wrote:

Can we keep this thread above board please, not sure how previous roles etc. has any baring on current situation.

Its not my intention to cause trouble for trouble sake.

But can I respectfully challenge you on that?

I believe it has everything to do with it when incompetence is at large, and not being made accountable.

When we are talking someone being in charge of a massive business that is wholly under qualified and lacking any relevant experience. Then I feel its the rights of those that suffer their inept leadership to question it.

Or else we live in a world without accountability and integrity.
I was referring more to Ladram's post and, while i appreciate he wasn't accusing anything directly, Reesy's first post.

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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 1:34pm
Originally posted by minded minded wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by minded minded wrote:

Can we keep this thread above board please, not sure how previous roles etc. has any baring on current situation.

Its not my intention to cause trouble for trouble sake.

But can I respectfully challenge you on that?

I believe it has everything to do with it when incompetence is at large, and not being made accountable.

When we are talking someone being in charge of a massive business that is wholly under qualified and lacking any relevant experience. Then I feel its the rights of those that suffer their inept leadership to question it.

Or else we live in a world without accountability and integrity.
I was referring more to Ladram's post and, while i appreciate he wasn't accusing anything directly, Reesy's first post.
 

Fair enough. I think we now just need to watch this space and see what happens if anything . I am sure that if there is a story/ issue the press will get to the bottom of it . Shame to lose such a high calibre Welsh business woman. 


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Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 2:23pm
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

I’ve looked for information on this all over and I’m afraid I’ve drawn a Blanc 


Thats the key. No media has the balls to run it.
This is absolute crap. Keep your eyes peeled 

So whats the reason for not doing honest journalism? Bravery?Wink


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Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 2:24pm
Originally posted by minded minded wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by minded minded wrote:

Can we keep this thread above board please, not sure how previous roles etc. has any baring on current situation.

Its not my intention to cause trouble for trouble sake.

But can I respectfully challenge you on that?

I believe it has everything to do with it when incompetence is at large, and not being made accountable.

When we are talking someone being in charge of a massive business that is wholly under qualified and lacking any relevant experience. Then I feel its the rights of those that suffer their inept leadership to question it.

Or else we live in a world without accountability and integrity.
I was referring more to Ladram's post and, while i appreciate he wasn't accusing anything directly, Reesy's first post.

Ah understood. Embarrassed


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Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 2:25pm
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

I’ve looked for information on this all over and I’m afraid I’ve drawn a Blanc 


Thats the key. No media has the balls to run it.
This is absolute crap. Keep your eyes peeled 

More or less confirming that there is something big going on here.Clap


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Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 2:26pm
Media are probably saving it up for the eve of the 6N for maximum impact....

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Posted By: John
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 3:33pm
Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Media are probably saving it up for the eve of the 6N for maximum impact....

That would be disgraceful behaviour by the media involved. If there's enough proof of whatever, go to the police or publish now. 


Posted By: hartson11
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 3:37pm
Originally posted by John John wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Media are probably saving it up for the eve of the 6N for maximum impact....

That would be disgraceful behaviour by the media involved. If there's enough proof of whatever, go to the police or publish now. 

The police? Surely whatever this bombshell is it’s not of a criminal nature! Then again, who knows these days.


Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 3:47pm
From what I can gather its to do with what she included in her resignation letter. Certain parties want her to publish it.

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Posted By: dyniol53
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 5:56pm
Originally posted by John John wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Media are probably saving it up for the eve of the 6N for maximum impact....

That would be disgraceful behaviour by the media involved. If there's enough proof of whatever, go to the police or publish now. 

This is typical media though. 

You go in wanting to speak truth to power and you come out writing click bait. 

Obviously not true of all journos but they are human like everyone else and are generally most concerned about the impact of their stories vs simply reporting the truth 


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Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 7:08pm
Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Originally posted by John John wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Media are probably saving it up for the eve of the 6N for maximum impact....

That would be disgraceful behaviour by the media involved. If there's enough proof of whatever, go to the police or publish now. 

This is typical media though. 

You go in wanting to speak truth to power and you come out writing click bait. 

Obviously not true of all journos but they are human like everyone else and are generally most concerned about the impact of their stories vs simply reporting the truth 

But get all snobby and defensive over independent fan media.


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Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 28 November 2021 at 7:23pm
Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Media are probably saving it up for the eve of the 6N for maximum impact....
This is a really poor post. You’ve got no evidence of that. 

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Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 29 November 2021 at 6:28am
Originally posted by minded minded wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by minded minded wrote:

Can we keep this thread above board please, not sure how previous roles etc. has any baring on current situation.

Its not my intention to cause trouble for trouble sake.

But can I respectfully challenge you on that?

I believe it has everything to do with it when incompetence is at large, and not being made accountable.

When we are talking someone being in charge of a massive business that is wholly under qualified and lacking any relevant experience. Then I feel its the rights of those that suffer their inept leadership to question it.

Or else we live in a world without accountability and integrity.
I was referring more to Ladram's post and, while i appreciate he wasn't accusing anything directly, Reesy's first post.
How on earth did i take it below board?i googled her name and that's what came up.


Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 29 November 2021 at 10:16am
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Media are probably saving it up for the eve of the 6N for maximum impact....
This is a really poor post. You’ve got no evidence of that. 

ah the irony.

Me being called accountable for poor content. In defence of Welsh rugby media haha.


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Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 29 November 2021 at 8:33pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Which job was that?
CEO of Aviva Europe I believe. Big job 
She is still the CEO of Aviva, a £15bn company. 


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Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 29 November 2021 at 8:42pm
Lads!
This isn't going to be  murky sex scandal, or even a corruption issue.

More likely a highly respected captain of industry calling out the WRU for being small minded, incompetent, inward looking amateurs slowly destroying what was once a great part of our culture. One of the few things this small country has a truly global reputation for.

Something like that


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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 29 November 2021 at 8:46pm
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Lads!
This isn't going to be  murky sex scandal, or even a corruption issue.

More likely a highly respected captain of industry calling out the WRU for being small minded, incompetent, inward looking amateurs slowly destroying what was once a great part of our culture. One of the few things this small country has a truly global reputation for.

Something like that
Sounds very plausible.

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Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 29 November 2021 at 10:11pm
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Which job was that?
CEO of Aviva Europe I believe. Big job 
She is still the CEO of Aviva, a £15bn company. 
She is one of only three female CEO’s of FTSE 100 companies in the UK.

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Posted By: dyniol53
Date Posted: 29 November 2021 at 10:39pm
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Lads!
This isn't going to be  murky sex scandal, or even a corruption issue.

More likely a highly respected captain of industry calling out the WRU for being small minded, incompetent, inward looking amateurs slowly destroying what was once a great part of our culture. One of the few things this small country has a truly global reputation for.

Something like that

And in the background, the generation inspired by the iconic 70s era of rugby begins to get older, while a generation captured by Wales’ 2016 Euros journey matures into adulthood - they start to miss a Rugby international for a football away day and football becomes the national sport

I don’t know the ins and outs of what’s going on in the WRU but I don’t trust them not to sleepwalk into a crisis. 


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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 29 November 2021 at 11:41pm
Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Aparently its going to be the biggest story in Welsh Rugby history. According to the sources.
i somehow doubt that’s true tbh


Posted By: dyniol53
Date Posted: 30 November 2021 at 12:21am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Aparently its going to be the biggest story in Welsh Rugby history. According to the sources.
i somehow doubt that’s true tbh

I was trying to think of the previous biggest story?

Almost merging us and the Os in 2019 felt pretty big at the time

Then the creation of regional rugby would be up there

Sam Warburton’s red card 😅


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Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 30 November 2021 at 6:59am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Aparently its going to be the biggest story in Welsh Rugby history. According to the sources.
i somehow doubt that’s true tbh
agree,if it was that big it would have broken by now,unless speedy tv is going to break it on SF.Wink


Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 30 November 2021 at 8:44am
It’s talk by people who love talking in innuendos and riddles and think they are clever. If it’s that important it will come just wait and see and let the really important people have there look at me moment. 

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Posted By: Gate12
Date Posted: 30 November 2021 at 9:04am
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Lads!
This isn't going to be  murky sex scandal, or even a corruption issue.

More likely a highly respected captain of industry calling out the WRU for being small minded, incompetent, inward looking amateurs slowly destroying what was once a great part of our culture. One of the few things this small country has a truly global reputation for.

Something like that

Yep this all over, can't imagine her resignation letter covers any more than her having less time to dedicate (having taken the CEO role during her time with PRB/WRU) and possibly some concerns over the structure/governance/leadership within the WRU, something which is frequently questioned, albeit being questioned publicly from someone freshly on the inside would be new.

And even it if was the case, and she wanted to make the letter public, it may cause some short term noise but those who back the union would dismiss it with something like 'she doesn't understand Welsh rugby' and those who question the WRU would wholeheartedly agree with any criticism.

And on it goes.


Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 30 November 2021 at 9:13am
Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Aparently its going to be the biggest story in Welsh Rugby history. According to the sources.
i somehow doubt that’s true tbh

I was trying to think of the previous biggest story?

Almost merging us and the Os in 2019 felt pretty big at the time

Then the creation of regional rugby would be up there

Sam Warburton’s red card 😅

Eddie and Alfie live?
Sacking your head coach in the car park after a world cup defeat?
having a sponsorless league for years for your pro teams?

Granted to be acclaimed as the biggest story in Welsh rugby history, it will have to be pretty big.




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Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 30 November 2021 at 9:16am
Originally posted by Gate12 Gate12 wrote:

Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Lads!
This isn't going to be  murky sex scandal, or even a corruption issue.

More likely a highly respected captain of industry calling out the WRU for being small minded, incompetent, inward looking amateurs slowly destroying what was once a great part of our culture. One of the few things this small country has a truly global reputation for.

Something like that

Yep this all over, can't imagine her resignation letter covers any more than her having less time to dedicate (having taken the CEO role during her time with PRB/WRU) and possibly some concerns over the structure/governance/leadership within the WRU, something which is frequently questioned, albeit being questioned publicly from someone freshly on the inside would be new.

And even it if was the case, and she wanted to make the letter public, it may cause some short term noise but those who back the union would dismiss it with something like 'she doesn't understand Welsh rugby' and those who question the WRU would wholeheartedly agree with any criticism.

And on it goes.

Rugby Paper seem to think there is something worth reporting.......

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Posted By: Gate12
Date Posted: 30 November 2021 at 9:26am
Any info from a departing senior person would be newsworthy, good or bad.

I'm just not sure it's something we'll ever see, and even if we did can't see it having a big long term impact.

Hope I'm wrong as Welsh rugby does need a massive kick, but it has for a very long time.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 30 November 2021 at 9:37am
Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Aparently its going to be the biggest story in Welsh Rugby history. According to the sources.
i somehow doubt that’s true tbh

I was trying to think of the previous biggest story?

Almost merging us and the Os in 2019 felt pretty big at the time

Then the creation of regional rugby would be up there

Sam Warburton’s red card 😅

Eddie and Alfie live?
Sacking your head coach in the car park after a world cup defeat?
having a sponsorless league for years for your pro teams?

Granted to be acclaimed as the biggest story in Welsh rugby history, it will have to be pretty big.


jiffy going north, the launch of a rugby world cup  the game going open, bringing in regional rugby all huge stories


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 30 November 2021 at 9:42am
This is a nothing story until it becomes a story. It is going to take a period of decline by the National team to get the oil tanker which is the WRU/blazers to realise they are not fit for purpose. At that point Pivac & Co. will get the blame, a World class coaching ticket will be hired and then if nothing changes we may see a realisation. By then though it may well be too late. 


Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 30 November 2021 at 11:17am
Where are the moles in Welsh rugby journalism? Someone guided by righteousness and truth. Fearless.

Steadfast in integrity?

Is there anyone who actually remembers how to be a proper Journalist?


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Posted By: Rubrum
Date Posted: 02 December 2021 at 3:25pm
Storm ?
Teacup ?


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Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 02 December 2021 at 6:51pm
Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Where are the moles in Welsh rugby journalism? Someone guided by righteousness and truth. Fearless.

Steadfast in integrity?

Is there anyone who actually remembers how to be a proper Journalist?

Seems to apply to most journalists nowadays ......Most of them dont even talk to the public , especially on tv...scared to death in case they may say something truthful and honest


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Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 21 December 2021 at 1:36pm
Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

It’s talk by people who love talking in innuendos and riddles and think they are clever. If it’s that important it will come just wait and see and let the really important people have there look at me moment. 

Awful post mate. Laced with assumptions and poor knowledge of posters on here.Confused


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Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 21 December 2021 at 1:42pm
Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

It’s talk by people who love talking in innuendos and riddles and think they are clever. If it’s that important it will come just wait and see and let the really important people have there look at me moment. 

Awful post mate. Laced with assumptions and poor knowledge of posters on here.Confused
Yep terrible post

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Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 21 December 2021 at 2:09pm
The campaign to make Amanda's reasons public is gathering steam. Just need a couple of Downing Streetesque whistle-blowers to accidentally leak the letter to the Mirror.


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 21 December 2021 at 4:50pm
Peter Thomas of Cardiff RFC calling for explanation now of the resignation of Amanda Blanc and calling for separate boards for running The Community and Professional rugby - he’s right! 

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Date Posted: 21 December 2021 at 4:50pm

'It's a disaster!' Peter Thomas calls on WRU to publicly reveal why Amanda Blanc mysteriously resigned.

Cardiff Rugby life president Peter Thomas has also called for a greater degree of separation between the amateur and professional game in Wales

Cardiff Rugby life president Peter Thomas says it is vital to make the right appointment following the “disastrous” departure of Amanda Blanc from her role as chair of the WRU Professional Rugby Board.

The long-serving Thomas has also called for a greater degree of separation between the amateur and professional game in Wales in terms of how they are run.

Blanc, the chief executive officer of insurance company Aviva, stepped down as chair of the PRB in November after just under two years at the helm, also leaving the WRU board.

The PRB, which comprises representatives from the WRU and each of the regions, was created in 2018 and is responsible for running professional rugby in Wales.

No explanation was given for Blanc’s exit, with all four regions issuing a joint statement express their sadness at the news.

Now Thomas - who was chairman of Cardiff Rugby for more than 20 years and remains on their board - has given his views on the situation and what needs to happen next.

“Amanda Blanc attended one of our board meetings and she was absolutely superb,” he said.

“To lose someone of that calibre is a huge backward step.

“Her very presence in the meetings and her vision for the future was so important to us.

“Replacing her is going to be very, very difficult, to find someone of her calibre.

“I was very, very surprised when she stepped down.

“The problem, of course, is that her resignation letter has been kept very private.

“I do feel the hierarchy in the WRU should give an explanation as to why she finished because she was such an important part of what we are trying to do.

“It just doesn’t sit with me that her reasons for leaving are not made public."

Thomas believes this is now something of a watershed moment for the game in Wales.

“What the WRU should do is listen to what the regional chairman are saying to them,” he said.

“They must allow the PRB to run the professional rugby game.

“To go forward, we have to have the separation between the community game and the professional game.

“I remember Alan Meredith (Swansea RFC) and I presenting this to Sir Tasker Watkins 20 odd years ago and we are still waiting.

“You must have a distinct difference between amateurism and professionalism.

“I just hope out of the disaster of Amanda Blanc going we can put the matter right by securing an appointment and the WRU sitting back knowing the professional game is in very good capable hands.”

Welsh rugby's loss was magnified just last week when Blanc was listed inside the top 30 of Forbes' 100 most powerful women of 2021, which you can read more about here.

Thomas continued: “I applaud the appointment of Rob Butcher as the chairman of the Welsh Rugby Union.

“You couldn’t have anyone better to understand the community game than him. He has spent his lifetime in the amateur game. He spent 25 years in it with Bargoed RFC.

“He is a perfect appointment as the chairman of the WRU amateur game, with the knowledge and background he has had.

“But the professional board has to be run by professional business people.

“I want to support the WRU board in who they are, but they must recognise there is also a professional rugby board.

“We had a perfect appointment as the chairperson of the PRB. Sadly, that situation no longer exists.”

Thomas says securing the right replacement for Blanc is crucial and feels Cardiff board member Andrew Williams, the CEO of technologies company Halma, fits the bill perfectly.

“This is an absolutely key appointment,” he said.

“If you look at the four regions, you have candidates of real quality.

“Take for example Andrew Williams, who is on our board in Cardiff.

“He’s one of the longest-serving top CEOs in the country.

“He is a valleys boy who has done good and made it to the very top. He is massively respected.

“If ever there was a candidate to fulfil that position, he is there head and shoulders, no question about it.

“The experience he has got, it’s on a par probably with Amanda.

“He would fit it perfectly and make such a difference. It’s people of his calibre at the very top end of business we need involved in running the professional game in Wales.

“I just wish that out of this situation we are all in with Amanda going we can very quickly put it right.”

Thomas concluded: “Before regional rugby, Cardiff went to Ireland and beat every team that they came up against.

“We go there now and we can’t win a game and it’s the same for all the regions.

“Something has got to change and it needs the Professional Rugby Board to make that change



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Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 21 December 2021 at 4:54pm
I loved the last paragraph.

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Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 21 December 2021 at 5:03pm
Thomas continued: “I applaud the appointment of Rob Butcher as the chairman of the Welsh Rugby Union.

“You couldn’t have anyone better to understand the community game than him. He has spent his lifetime in the amateur game. He spent 25 years in it with Bargoed RFC.

“He is a perfect appointment as the chairman of the WRU amateur game, with the knowledge and background he has had.

“But the professional board has to be run by professional business people.

“I want to support the WRU board in who they are, but they must recognise there is also a professional rugby board."

Scathing.


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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 21 December 2021 at 6:30pm
Great to see the momentum building. Pressure needs to be kept on.

Why shouldn’t the WRU publish the resignation letter? Just what are they hoping to hide by not doing so?


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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 21 December 2021 at 6:36pm
Incompetence, one suspects.


Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 21 December 2021 at 6:48pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Incompetence, one suspects.

Lets hope thats all it is.




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Posted By: ap sior
Date Posted: 21 December 2021 at 6:53pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Great to see the momentum building. Pressure needs to be kept on.

Why shouldn’t the WRU publish the resignation letter? Just what are they hoping to hide by not doing so?

Perhaps she has emptied both barrels at someone, at, or very near the top Steve !


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 21 December 2021 at 6:57pm
Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Incompetence, one suspects.

Lets hope thats all it is.


I’d hazard a guess it’s something else.

A woman of her calibre is used to sorting out the wheat from the chaff. Incompetence isn’t really a surprise in cosy organisations.

The implications are it’s something much bigger.


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Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 21 December 2021 at 7:59pm
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

It’s talk by people who love talking in innuendos and riddles and think they are clever. If it’s that important it will come just wait and see and let the really important people have there look at me moment. 

Awful post mate. Laced with assumptions and poor knowledge of posters on here.Confused
Yep terrible post
Not really if people talk in riddles and try to be clever it gives impression they don’t really know.  They won’t upset apple cart because they won’t get access to internationals to write banal stories about whose wife eats what for breakfast.
Real journalists will question authority and report what they see not what the powers that be want them too. I don’t care who people are just want people to talk straight be honest it’s simple people will respect that far more. 
I know better than most about protecting sources but if people drop innuendo and don’t follow it up it can be dangerous. 


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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 21 December 2021 at 9:59pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Incompetence, one suspects.

Lets hope thats all it is.


I’d hazard a guess it’s something else.

A woman of her calibre is used to sorting out the wheat from the chaff. Incompetence isn’t really a surprise in cosy organisations.

The implications are it’s something much bigger.



Whatever it is, you can't shape it by or after resigning I'm afraid.

Anything that now comes out will be tagged as 'disgruntled ex employee....'.



Posted By: Dic Penderyn
Date Posted: 21 December 2021 at 10:23pm
Except that "disgruntled former employees" tend to be sacked.Resignation is honourable when associated with or in pursuit of a principled position.Robin Cook's resignation speech was a huge political moment,for example,as was Geoffrey Howe's-to name but two in recent history.Too often these days people fail to do the honourable thing,and as a result the world is full of hypocrites.


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 21 December 2021 at 10:28pm
A leader of her reputation and standing is very unlikely to want to get embroiled in any sort controversy, in fact she may be restricted from doing so by any of her other employment or non-exec contractual obligations.

It's done, whatever was there will remain there.




Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 22 December 2021 at 9:04am
Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

It’s talk by people who love talking in innuendos and riddles and think they are clever. If it’s that important it will come just wait and see and let the really important people have there look at me moment. 

Awful post mate. Laced with assumptions and poor knowledge of posters on here.Confused
Yep terrible post
Not really if people talk in riddles and try to be clever it gives impression they don’t really know.  They won’t upset apple cart because they won’t get access to internationals to write banal stories about whose wife eats what for breakfast.
Real journalists will question authority and report what they see not what the powers that be want them too. I don’t care who people are just want people to talk straight be honest it’s simple people will respect that far more. 
I know better than most about protecting sources but if people drop innuendo and don’t follow it up it can be dangerous. 

Thats a pretty Naive outlook, which must get pretty frustrating and disappointing if you truly hold any consistency to that mantra.

People are discussing what they know, what do you want them to do lie?

The general evidence is that there is something building here. If it wasnt for those discussing what theyve heard, then you would never have known. I for one am grateful for those debating and freely sharing opinions and knowledge.


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Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 22 December 2021 at 9:09am
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

A leader of her reputation and standing is very unlikely to want to get embroiled in any sort controversy, in fact she may be restricted from doing so by any of her other employment or non-exec contractual obligations.

It's done, whatever was there will remain there.



As some have had the opinion, this thread has, to them been a non story, a dead duck.

For me there is always something to extract  from every bit of information and expression.

In this thread it taught me that there is a a much wider divide in mindset between Scarlets fans than I ever thought possible.

Some have seemed over eager for this to be nothing.


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Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 22 December 2021 at 9:18am
Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

It’s talk by people who love talking in innuendos and riddles and think they are clever. If it’s that important it will come just wait and see and let the really important people have there look at me moment. 

Awful post mate. Laced with assumptions and poor knowledge of posters on here.Confused
Yep terrible post
Not really if people talk in riddles and try to be clever it gives impression they don’t really know.  They won’t upset apple cart because they won’t get access to internationals to write banal stories about whose wife eats what for breakfast.
Real journalists will question authority and report what they see not what the powers that be want them too. I don’t care who people are just want people to talk straight be honest it’s simple people will respect that far more. 
I know better than most about protecting sources but if people drop innuendo and don’t follow it up it can be dangerous. 

Thats a pretty Naive outlook, which must get pretty frustrating and disappointing if you truly hold any consistency to that mantra.

People are discussing what they know, what do you want them to do lie?

The general evidence is that there is something building here. If it wasnt for those discussing what theyve heard, then you would never have known. I for one am grateful for those debating and freely sharing opinions and knowledge.
Not at all I just hate bullpooters and people who are pathetic enough to say nothing but pretend to know a lot. 
I love a debate more than anyone but just putting in throw away comments and not backing it up is not debating. 
If they can’t share information because of protecting sources they should say nothing until they can, rather innuendo all the time. 
This is nothing personal just like open and honest debate.



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Posted By: Dic Penderyn
Date Posted: 22 December 2021 at 10:07am
Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

A leader of her reputation and standing is very unlikely to want to get embroiled in any sort controversy, in fact she may be restricted from doing so by any of her other employment or non-exec contractual obligations.

It's done, whatever was there will remain there.



As some have had the opinion, this thread has, to them been a non story, a dead duck.

For me there is always something to extract  from every bit of information and expression.

In this thread it taught me that there is a a much wider divide in mindset between Scarlets fans than I ever thought possible.

Some have seemed over eager for this to be nothing.

There does seem to be some wishful thinking going on.The fact is that a controversy already exists,and has done for nearly a month.Whilst Blanc is avoiding a public slanging match,it is obvious that the content of her resignation letter is known to some:who shared it?Certainly not the WRU,who remain silent....


Posted By: John
Date Posted: 23 December 2021 at 12:24pm
[QUOTE=Wil Chips]A leader of her reputation and standing is very unlikely to want to get embroiled in any sort controversy, in fact she may be restricted from doing so by any of her other employment or non-exec contractual obligations.

It's done, whatever was there will remain there.


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I agree but these things do have habit of coming out. Those who know the content of the letter have to remain "onside" and not split or be split away from the core group. The Downing St. parties were unknown for a year to 18 months but now those who have a grievance are happy to hand evidence over to reporters. You bet someone has a copy of the letter as future "insurance".


Posted By: hartson11
Date Posted: 13 January 2022 at 9:52pm
Looks like the WRU’s tactic of say nothing and hope it’s goes away seems to have worked.


Posted By: greypower1
Date Posted: 22 March 2022 at 10:43am
Malcolm Wall appointed as new chairperson of PRB four days ago.  Apologies if this is old news, I must have missed it.

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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 22 March 2022 at 6:13pm
Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

Malcolm Wall appointed as new chairperson of PRB four days ago.  Apologies if this is old news, I must have missed it.
Who is he and what sort of background?

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 22 March 2022 at 6:30pm
Bog noise at the quins, think he had a business in hong kong at one point. A cut above your current wru board tyoe. I met him once at a cricket function nice chap and knew his rugby if that counts for anything!


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 22 March 2022 at 6:57pm
Originally posted by hartson11 hartson11 wrote:

Looks like the WRU’s tactic of say nothing and hope it’s goes away seems to have worked.


Isn’t there now a court hearing on this ?
Sorry not 100% on that.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 22 March 2022 at 7:20pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by hartson11 hartson11 wrote:

Looks like the WRU’s tactic of say nothing and hope it’s goes away seems to have worked.


Isn’t there now a court hearing on this ?
Sorry not 100% on that.
think that is charlotte wathan womens team manager


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 23 March 2022 at 4:32am
Cheers RR


Posted By: hoppy
Date Posted: 15 June 2022 at 10:11pm

The chief executive of Aviva has revealed the reasons behind her departure as chair of the Professional Rugby Board (PRB) and from the board of the Welsh Rugby Union (WRU).

Amanda Blanc told BBC Wales Live she was not listened to and that the WRU "needs modernisation".

She  https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/59335487" rel="nofollow -  after less than two years as chair of the PRB, which includes members of the WRU and each of Wales' four regional sides.

No explanation was given at the time. 

Speaking about her departure for the first time, Ms Blanc told Wales Live: "You like to do things where you make an impact. 

"If you feel that that isn't being listened to, you'll move on.

"Ultimately what I would say about the Welsh Rugby Union is that the governance needs modernisation. 

''You have two very distinct parts of the game - the community game and the professional game - and you know the professional game needs to have the appropriate governance for that."

Ms Blanc confirmed it was "absolutely" her decision and was succeeded as PRB chairman by Malcolm Wall.

When asked whether the WRU is beyond repair, she said: "I wish Malcolm well in his quest to do that but I do think change needs to happen."

Another key issue for Blanc was the other communities in Wales that want to play rugby. 

"Look at the women's game for example," she added.

"Taking that game seriously and making sure that gets the investment that's required. 

"I think those are all things that are perfectly within the gift of the Welsh Rugby Union to fix."

'Not dinosaurs'

When asked whether the WRU board was outdated or dinosaurs, Blanc replied: "I am not going to say they are dinosaurs because if you look at the Welsh Rugby Union there are two independent non-executives and I was the chair of the PRB. 

"But there were also many non-business background people on that and I think if you have a £100m revenue business you need the appropriate governance.

"Everybody needs to want to do that, one individual can't just do that. Everybody needs to see the need for change and want to change."

The PRB includes representatives of the WRU and the four Welsh regional teams, Scarlets, Cardiff, Ospreys and Dragons.

"I loved chairing the Professional Rugby Board," said Blanc.

"Working with the four regions in Wales, they are very professional individuals and we went through a tough time with Covid."

A WRU spokesperson said: "We continue to respect Amanda and thank her for her contributions whilst on PRB and the WRU board. 

"All aspects of the WRU's investment in rugby are hugely important; in addition, in line with best practice, the WRU will always keep reviewing its governance."



Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 15 June 2022 at 10:14pm
Nothing we don’t know but not really anything of note there


Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 16 June 2022 at 8:39am
We had a lucky escape. Aviva were a bigger mess of an organisation than the WRU.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 16 June 2022 at 8:52am
No real bombshell news just what most of us have stated for many years. A £100m organisation run by amateurs. She was at pains to differentiate her experiences of the PRB & WRU which again says it all. 


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 16 June 2022 at 9:20am
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

We had a lucky escape. Aviva were a bigger mess of an organisation than the WRU.
comforting as i have a pension and insurance policies with themWink


Posted By: Gate12
Date Posted: 16 June 2022 at 9:29am
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

We had a lucky escape. Aviva were a bigger mess of an organisation than the WRU.

In what way?


Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 16 June 2022 at 11:28am
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

We had a lucky escape. Aviva were a bigger mess of an organisation than the WRU.
Are you for real? She is one of the most successful CEO’s in the UK.

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 16 June 2022 at 12:22pm
Next year? Bit of a long game that isn’t it? Tbh as depressing as this sounds. She is just going to confirm what we all know , possibly with some sexism and mysgony thrown in, which will surprise no one and alter nothing


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 16 June 2022 at 4:39pm
Amanda Blanc (born 1967) is a  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_people" rel="nofollow - Welsh businesswoman who is the chief executive officer (CEO) of  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviva" rel="nofollow - Aviva  since July 2020. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Blanc#cite_note-1" rel="nofollow - [1]  She was previously CEO EMEA & Global Banking at  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zurich_Insurance_Group" rel="nofollow - Zurich and Group CEO AXA UK, PPP & Ireland at  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axa" rel="nofollow - Axa . The first woman to chair the  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_British_Insurers" rel="nofollow - Association of British Insurers https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Blanc#cite_note-Independent-2" rel="nofollow - [2]  and a past president of the  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartered_Insurance_Institute" rel="nofollow - Chartered Insurance Institute , she holds a number of non-executive roles . 

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Posted By: dyniol53
Date Posted: 18 June 2022 at 10:47am
No secret sauce there. 

Saying ‘the womens game needs proper investment’ is the only ‘policy response’ I see in that statement but it’s nothing revolutionary. 

Would like to know if there was anything she pushed for that was ignored or rejected, but it sounds more of what more educated posters on here have been saying for a decade, amateurs in charge of a 100m business.


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Posted By: dyniol53
Date Posted: 18 June 2022 at 10:48am
For me the largest challenge in Welsh rugby is “how do we get 8-10k rugby fans turning out to watch professional rugby games every week” 

Whoever can solve that problem will have “saved welsh rugby” imo.


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Posted By: greypower1
Date Posted: 18 June 2022 at 1:14pm
Get a properly structured fixture list whereby  we get a home fixture every other weekend. ( like English Premiership do)  Then the fans can plan ahead and visiting Y Parc becomes a habit not a lottery.

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Keep the faith


Posted By: gaffer
Date Posted: 03 August 2022 at 9:06am
Amanda Blanc appointed to the board of BP. Not good enough for the WRU though, They have a retired Geography teacher in charge.

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What's going on?


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 03 August 2022 at 9:28am
Originally posted by gaffer gaffer wrote:

Amanda Blanc appointed to the board of BP. Not good enough for the WRU though, They have a retired Geography teacher in charge.
Didn't she resign?And given the £6.9 billion quarterly profits i doubt the wages are that shoddy.



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