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Topic: Welsh Squad for South Africa
Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Subject: Welsh Squad for South Africa
Date Posted: 04 May 2022 at 9:12am
Its that time of year to get thinking about the make up of the touring party. 

Back 3 - how is Johnny Mac progressing from his injury. With Holmes out of favour, Amos retiring & Owen Lane playing poorly there could be some new face/s involved.

My guess : Liam, Adams, JohnnyMac, LRZ, Cuthbert, Giles or Conbeer.

Midfield - does he take North, how is Halaholo recovering.

My guess : North, Watkin, Tompkins, Foxy.

10's : Good news for Pivac is that Anscombe seems to be finding some form.

My guess : Biggar, Anscombe, Sheedy.

9's : No surprises here for me.

My guess : Cawdor, Hardy & Tomos.

Props : How is Wyn recovering. Lewis and Carre have been pretty poor of late but who is challenging them. Safety first for Pivac probably.

My guess : Wyn, Gareth Thomas, Carre, Francis, Brown, Lewis. 

Hookers : Dewi Lake is making a very strong case for the starting slot in fairness.

My guess : Lake, Elias, Roberts

2nd rows : Interesting dilemma here - does AWJ's form warrant selection, will Tschiunza recover, is Jenkins ready

My guess : AWJ, Rowlands, Beard, Seb, Tschiunza

Back row : Think Ellis is out of the equation & I don't think the tackling machine that is Reffell has convinced Pivac. Moriarty is still injured. 

My guess : Faletau, Jac Morgan, Navidi, Basham, Ratti.

Some interesting points for debate - fire away.



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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 04 May 2022 at 9:25am
First off this is a bonkers schedule in a post lions year. Secondly let’s see what the likes of ratti and conbeer can do, thirdly lrz must start he is in great form. I’d personally play liam lrz north j williams conbeer anscombe  cawdor thomas lake francis rowlands beard naividi morgan ratti bench smith elias brown awj reffell .  We really need to see if the likes of jonny williams and brown are test level if not cut them adrift and move on.  Then as the series progresses drip feed the likes of adams and toby f in as injuries occur


Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 04 May 2022 at 9:32am
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Its that time of year to get thinking about the make up of the touring party. 

Back 3 - how is Johnny Mac progressing from his injury. With Holmes out of favour, Amos retiring & Owen Lane playing poorly there could be some new face/s involved.

My guess : Liam, Adams, JohnnyMac, LRZ, Cuthbert, Giles or Conbeer.

Midfield - does he take North, how is Halaholo recovering.

My guess : North, Watkin, Tompkins, Foxy.

10's : Good news for Pivac is that Anscombe seems to be finding some form.

My guess : Biggar, Anscombe, Sheedy.

9's : No surprises here for me.

My guess : Cawdor, Hardy & Tomos.

Props : How is Wyn recovering. Lewis and Carre have been pretty poor of late but who is challenging them. Safety first for Pivac probably.

My guess : Wyn, Gareth Thomas, Carre, Francis, Brown, Lewis. 

Hookers : Dewi Lake is making a very strong case for the starting slot in fairness.

My guess : Lake, Elias, Roberts

2nd rows : Interesting dilemma here - does AWJ's form warrant selection, will Tschiunza recover, is Jenkins ready

My guess : AWJ, Rowlands, Beard, Seb, Tschiunza

Back row : Think Ellis is out of the equation & I don't think the tackling machine that is Reffell has convinced Pivac. Moriarty is still injured. 

My guess : Faletau, Jac Morgan, Navidi, Basham, Ratti.

Some interesting points for debate - fire away.
Add Dafydd Jenkins in at lock 

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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 04 May 2022 at 9:35am
Webb might be in with a shout as I am sure I've read he has contacted Pivac to explain his comments have been taken 'out of context'. So he may have put his toys back in his pram.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 04 May 2022 at 9:40am
Jenkins at lock looks a real prospect but are we better off holding him back for the ai series at home? Carter the dragons lock must be ahead of him? What about the likes of knott and lonsdale?


Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 04 May 2022 at 9:51am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Jenkins at lock looks a real prospect but are we better off holding him back for the ai series at home? Carter the dragons lock must be ahead of him? What about the likes of knott and lonsdale?
Londsdale could be a decent shout 

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 04 May 2022 at 10:05am
We don’t want a pasting but what will we learn about guys lke biggar toby f adams etc that we don’t already know?


Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 04 May 2022 at 10:13am
Reading the Osprey thread on Gwlad we should just take their squad as they are going to be world beaters now apparently after Saturday. 
In the real world centre we are short of real class apart from George so he has to go. 
Outside half I would take Costellow instead of Sheedy for experience.
No way Carre and Lewis should go would rather take Stef Thomas and Leon Brown and give them a real chance. Even Nicki Thomas is better than Carre so option there as well. 
AWJ should be told thanks for great career but that is enough he was even of pace Saturday. 
Rhys Davies should go don’t know much about others mentioned but he looks good prospect .
Pivac must eat a bit of humble pie and take Reffell and then tell him he has to sign for us after tour. 


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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 04 May 2022 at 11:39am
Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Reading the Osprey thread on Gwlad we should just take their squad as they are going to be world beaters now apparently after Saturday. 
In the real world centre we are short of real class apart from George so he has to go. 
Outside half I would take Costellow instead of Sheedy for experience.
No way Carre and Lewis should go would rather take Stef Thomas and Leon Brown and give them a real chance. Even Nicki Thomas is better than Carre so option there as well. 
AWJ should be told thanks for great career but that is enough he was even of pace Saturday. 
Rhys Davies should go don’t know much about others mentioned but he looks good prospect .
Pivac must eat a bit of humble pie and take Reffell and then tell him he has to sign for us after tour. 

Hope your sitting down Why but i couldn't agree more with all of that if by Nicki Thomas you mean Nicki Smith. As for your point about Reffell I would love to see him at PYS. His no nonsense you will not pass attitude would be a defence coaches dream to set the standard. 


Posted By: lordcuthbert
Date Posted: 04 May 2022 at 2:12pm
In an (unrealistic) ideal world i'd take

Props: Wyn Jones, Gareth Thomas, Nicky Smith, Leon Brown Tomas Francis, Tom Botha
Hooker: Dewi Lake, Ryan Elias, Bradley Roberts
SR: AWJ, Beard, Rowlands, Rhys Davies, Ben Carter
BR: SLH, Reffell, Faletau, Ratti, Basham, Navidi, Jac Morgan
SH: Hardy, Blacker, Tomos Williams
FH: Biggar, Ioan Lloyd, Costelow, Sheedy
Centre: North, Max Clark, Johnny Williams, Tompkins
Back 3: LRZ, Adams, Sanjay, Cuthbert, Conbeer

Close shouts would be the likes of Daf Jenkins, Tshiunza (if fit), Theo Cabango, Rhys Webb, Botham, Lonsdale/Knott

Also would love to see some links to Taine Plumtree either in a squad or coming to Wales.

Don't think this will be the case however, but thats what I'd go with


Posted By: trident
Date Posted: 04 May 2022 at 3:24pm
Think Josh McCloud will be in the picture


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 04 May 2022 at 3:42pm
Originally posted by lordcuthbert lordcuthbert wrote:

In an (unrealistic) ideal world i'd take

Props: Wyn Jones, Gareth Thomas, Nicky Smith, Leon Brown Tomas Francis, Tom Botha
Hooker: Dewi Lake, Ryan Elias, Bradley Roberts
SR: AWJ, Beard, Rowlands, Rhys Davies, Ben Carter
BR: SLH, Reffell, Faletau, Ratti, Basham, Navidi, Jac Morgan
SH: Hardy, Blacker, Tomos Williams
FH: Biggar, Ioan Lloyd, Costelow, Sheedy
Centre: North, Max Clark, Johnny Williams, Tompkins
Back 3: LRZ, Adams, Sanjay, Cuthbert, Conbeer

Close shouts would be the likes of Daf Jenkins, Tshiunza (if fit), Theo Cabango, Rhys Webb, Botham, Lonsdale/Knott

Also would love to see some links to Taine Plumtree either in a squad or coming to Wales.

Don't think this will be the case however, but thats what I'd go with
plumtree a great shout 


Posted By: lordcuthbert
Date Posted: 04 May 2022 at 4:21pm
I agree but can't see him going on a tour if he's playing in NZ now. Would have to be a six nations squad minimum for him to accept I'd imagine


Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 04 May 2022 at 5:13pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Reading the Osprey thread on Gwlad we should just take their squad as they are going to be world beaters now apparently after Saturday. 
In the real world centre we are short of real class apart from George so he has to go. 
Outside half I would take Costellow instead of Sheedy for experience.
No way Carre and Lewis should go would rather take Stef Thomas and Leon Brown and give them a real chance. Even Nicki Thomas is better than Carre so option there as well. 
AWJ should be told thanks for great career but that is enough he was even of pace Saturday. 
Rhys Davies should go don’t know much about others mentioned but he looks good prospect .
Pivac must eat a bit of humble pie and take Reffell and then tell him he has to sign for us after tour. 

Hope your sitting down Why but i couldn't agree more with all of that if by Nicki Thomas you mean Nicki Smith. As for your point about Reffell I would love to see him at PYS. His no nonsense you will not pass attitude would be a defence coaches dream to set the standard. 
I did mean Nicki Smith but yes would love Reffell down the Parc it’s about time the WRU sent a few players our way rather than the Other regions. 


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Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 04 May 2022 at 8:50pm
Rob Evans?

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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 04 May 2022 at 8:56pm
Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Rob Evans?

He’s not even 2nd choice for us, I don’t think he’ll be digging his passport out. 


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 05 May 2022 at 7:22am
Forget Rob Evans & Josh. They both need a good pre-season to start looking like themselves again come September. Some interesting shouts on selection as always. Young Plumtree is very interesting but I can't see anyone with a modicum of sense committing long term to the basket case that is Welsh rugby. 


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 12 May 2022 at 10:34am
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Its that time of year to get thinking about the make up of the touring party. 

Back 3 - how is Johnny Mac progressing from his injury. With Holmes out of favour, Amos retiring & Owen Lane playing poorly there could be some new face/s involved.

My guess : Liam, Adams, JohnnyMac, LRZ, Cuthbert, Giles or Conbeer.

Midfield - does he take North, how is Halaholo recovering.

My guess : North, Watkin, Tompkins, Foxy.

10's : Good news for Pivac is that Anscombe seems to be finding some form.

My guess : Biggar, Anscombe, Sheedy.

9's : No surprises here for me.

My guess : Cawdor, Hardy & Tomos.

Props : How is Wyn recovering. Lewis and Carre have been pretty poor of late but who is challenging them. Safety first for Pivac probably.

My guess : Wyn, Gareth Thomas, Carre, Francis, Brown, Lewis. 

Hookers : Dewi Lake is making a very strong case for the starting slot in fairness.

My guess : Lake, Elias, Roberts

2nd rows : Interesting dilemma here - does AWJ's form warrant selection, will Tschiunza recover, is Jenkins ready

My guess : AWJ, Rowlands, Beard, Seb, Tschiunza

Back row : Think Ellis is out of the equation & I don't think the tackling machine that is Reffell has convinced Pivac. Moriarty is still injured. 

My guess : Faletau, Jac Morgan, Navidi, Basham, Ratti.

Some interesting points for debate - fire away.

Well it seems that some of the news regarding injury etc means that in all probability from the squad selected above we may not see Johnny Mac, Tomos Williams, Wyn or Tchiunza travelling. For the back 3 Pivac should try to tempt Henry Arundell of London Irish to throw his lot in with Wales. Pivac will probably go with Collins as the steady option. At 9 I think Lloyd Williams will go which will please Mark Orders no end. Nicki Smith for Wyn? As for Tchiunza there will be  clamour for Dafydd Jenkins but for me I would take Carter.


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 12 May 2022 at 6:00pm
Off to Covid land again then and lovely hard surfaces with big thundering Safas to welcome the boys. Sometimes for a supporter having a Scarlets international off injured can be one of my guilty pleasures - truth be told but then you find that those not selected get injured in summer training so I can’t win 😂 

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Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 13 May 2022 at 3:20pm
Seems the Wales online has gone off the Rhys Webb bandwagon and found another one to jump on, Rhys Carre.
Is it the first name they are obsessed with but please Carre had one good game against Zebre and suddenly he world beater.
The bloke was pathetic against us a few weeks ago an embarrassment is not too strong a word Javan destroyed him in scrum and he did not figure at all in loose. He was dropped for return and when he did come on Cardiff capitulated not all down to him but he made no impact at all. 
There are options for Wales if Wyn is fit then he and Gareth Thomas go third is Nicki Smith and even our Stef Thomas must be before Carre surely. 
Why does Wales on line keep banging the drum for failed and over the hill players. 


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Posted By: Coch
Date Posted: 15 May 2022 at 10:50pm
Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Seems the Wales online has gone off the Rhys Webb bandwagon and found another one to jump on, Rhys Carre.
Is it the first name they are obsessed with but please Carre had one good game against Zebre and suddenly he world beater.
The bloke was pathetic against us a few weeks ago an embarrassment is not too strong a word Javan destroyed him in scrum and he did not figure at all in loose. He was dropped for return and when he did come on Cardiff capitulated not all down to him but he made no impact at all. 
There are options for Wales if Wyn is fit then he and Gareth Thomas go third is Nicki Smith and even our Stef Thomas must be before Carre surely. 
Why does Wales on line keep banging the drum for failed and over the hill
 players. 

Clap I think it's also cruel. Leave the lad alone,let him have his one good game without the WOL going nuts over him. 



Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 12:41pm

Wales squad in full - forwards: Rhys Carre, Wyn Jones, Gareth Thomas, Ryan Elias, Dewi Lake, Sam Parry, Leon Brown, Tomas Francis, Dillon Lewis, Adam Beard, Ben Carter, Alun Wyn Jones, Will Rowlands, Taine Basham, Taulupe Faletau, Dan Lydiate, Josh Navidi, James Ratti, Tommy Reffell

Backs: Gareth Davies, Kieran Hardy, Tomos Williams, Gareth Anscombe, Dan Biggar (capt), Rhys Patchell, George North, Nick Tompkins, Owen Watkin, Johnny Williams, Josh Adams, Alex Cuthbert, Louis Rees-Zammit, Liam Williams.


Few surprises I must say - Rhys Patchell selected as he covers 15 with only 4 back 3 players named - too early for him on his road back. No Foxy, Seb Davies or biggest surprise of all no Jac Morgan. Pleased to see Reffell selected but Jac for me before Basham. 



Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 12:44pm
Parry as 3rd choice hooker? Lydiate in but morgan out? Let’s be honest pivac is clueless no consistency in selection at all


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 12:55pm
A centre partnership of Johnny Williams & George North should be sound defensively & offer something in attack. 


Posted By: Owen111
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 12:59pm
Better pray to the gods Wyn or Francis dont get injured. 

I really like Dewi Lake I think he will start the first test 


Posted By: gaffer
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 1:07pm
No Jac/Botham but 34 year old Lydiate? Seb Davies gone but an ageing and increasingly anonymous AWJ in? Carre over N smith? 

Laughable. The SA forwards will hardly break sweat.



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Posted By: Scrletsfan32x
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 1:32pm
Beggars belief why he’s picked Lydiate ahead of Jac Morgan/Botham. I don’t know why AWJ is going because he needs a rest as he’s had two nasty injuries. Doesn’t surprise me that Foxy hasn’t been included and he’s been nowhere near his best all season, this could be the beginning of the end for his Welsh career. Really hope JBW and Notth start together. They could be a weapon in defence and attack. Ryan needs to push on as Lake is in good form.


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 1:42pm
I don't think Lydiate was picked ahead of Morgan as he is a 6 & Morgan is a 7. 


Posted By: gaffer
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 1:56pm
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

I don't think Lydiate was picked ahead of Morgan as he is a 6 & Morgan is a 7. 

Jac could play 6 or 7 - Lydiate is a waste of a pick.


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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 2:34pm
Originally posted by gaffer gaffer wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

I don't think Lydiate was picked ahead of Morgan as he is a 6 & Morgan is a 7. 

Jac could play 6 or 7 - Lydiate is a waste of a pick.
Great experience with Lydiate and hope he keeps fit and goes well. 

Thankfully it’s no bother if it’s him or Morgan. For me the main thing is that the Scarlets selection exposure on tour isn’t too significant and I am not sure Wyn will be fit enough . Let the Ospreys go for glory even minus the mighty Webby 😍


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Posted By: Jones2004
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 2:49pm
Wayne Pivac was asked about Jac Morgan's omission this afternoon...

"We've asked him to improve, if he can, in that area of physicality when he's over the ball, being even stronger than he is."

I’m sorry… what? Over the ball is Morgan’s biggest strength - he’s absolutely amazing at it. I really can’t understand some of Pivac’s selections. 


Posted By: Dic Penderyn
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 2:52pm
There's some rubbish in that selection,fair play.


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 2:53pm
Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Wayne Pivac was asked about Jac Morgan's omission this afternoon...

"We've asked him to improve, if he can, in that area of physicality when he's over the ball, being even stronger than he is."

I’m sorry… what? Over the ball is Morgan’s biggest strength - he’s absolutely amazing at it. I really can’t understand some of Pivac’s selections. 

Wow, I didn't see that. That is baffling!! 


Posted By: Scrletsfan32x
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 2:53pm
Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Wayne Pivac was asked about Jac Morgan's omission this afternoon...

"We've asked him to improve, if he can, in that area of physicality when he's over the ball, being even stronger than he is."

I’m sorry… what? Over the ball is Morgan’s biggest strength - he’s absolutely amazing at it. I really can’t understand some of Pivac’s selections. 


Fully agree he’s won the most turnovers in the URC this season. If Pivac would of said that he wanted to give new players a chance then that would of been fine. He should feel hard done by IMO. I don’t get what vision Pivac has and what he’s trying to achieve with the squad, especially with the World Cup a year away and the shambolic six nations we’ve just had.


Posted By: Dic Penderyn
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 2:55pm
Originally posted by Scrletsfan32x Scrletsfan32x wrote:

Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Wayne Pivac was asked about Jac Morgan's omission this afternoon...

"We've asked him to improve, if he can, in that area of physicality when he's over the ball, being even stronger than he is."

I’m sorry… what? Over the ball is Morgan’s biggest strength - he’s absolutely amazing at it. I really can’t understand some of Pivac’s selections. 


Fully agree he’s won the most turnovers in the URC this season. If Pivac would of said that he wanted to give new players a chance then that would of been fine. He should feel hard done by IMO. I don’t get what vision Pivac has and what he’s trying to achieve with the squad, especially with the World Cup a year away and the shambolic six nations we’ve just had.

Unbelievable.


Posted By: dyniol53
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 2:55pm
Lol literally a majority of the squad were better players in 2012 than they are in 2022.

Fundamentally I think Pivac’s job is on the line. 3-0 is sackable after the Italy game.

Basham over Jac Morgan is the surprise for me.


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Posted By: Dic Penderyn
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 2:55pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Parry as 3rd choice hooker? Lydiate in but morgan out? Let’s be honest pivac is clueless no consistency in selection at all

Starting to agree with you.


Posted By: ap sior
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 3:09pm
Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Wayne Pivac was asked about Jac Morgan's omission this afternoon...

"We've asked him to improve, if he can, in that area of physicality when he's over the ball, being even stronger than he is."

I’m sorry… what? Over the ball is Morgan’s biggest strength - he’s absolutely amazing at it. I really can’t understand some of Pivac’s selections. 

This is for discussion only, so bear with me.

Last season against Sale, who had a number of large Saffers in their pack, Jac was battered somewhat. I thought then that he was a little on the small side. However, this season he seems bigger, and appears to have bulked up, and put on a few pounds. I do notice that he often seems to complain to refs during matches when he feels that he has had his hands on the ball, but the ref doesn't award him the penalty. Under those circumstances, he's often been knocked off the ball, so failing to win the turnover. 

Might be me and my eyesight. I'd still have taken him to SA, he's certainly, on this season's form, probablty the best 7 in Wales. I'd play Navidi as a 6.


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 3:36pm
Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Wayne Pivac was asked about Jac Morgan's omission this afternoon...

"We've asked him to improve, if he can, in that area of physicality when he's over the ball, being even stronger than he is."

I’m sorry… what? Over the ball is Morgan’s biggest strength - he’s absolutely amazing at it. I really can’t understand some of Pivac’s selections. 
it’s the size and physicality of the Boks. It seems pretty sensible to be cautious with him at his age. Well done Pivac from me

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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 3:38pm
Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Lol literally a majority of the squad were better players in 2012 than they are in 2022.

Fundamentally I think Pivac’s job is on the line. 3-0 is sackable after the Italy game.

Basham over Jac Morgan is the surprise for me.
For me Basham  is more physical than Morgan surely. He’s picking the right players he wants for away in South Africa.

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Posted By: Dic Penderyn
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 3:41pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Wayne Pivac was asked about Jac Morgan's omission this afternoon...

"We've asked him to improve, if he can, in that area of physicality when he's over the ball, being even stronger than he is."

I’m sorry… what? Over the ball is Morgan’s biggest strength - he’s absolutely amazing at it. I really can’t understand some of Pivac’s selections. 
it’s the size and physicality of the Boks. It seems pretty sensible to be cautious with him at his age. Well done Pivac from me

Jac's the same age as Basham LOLLOLLOLLOL


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 3:50pm
Originally posted by Dic Penderyn Dic Penderyn wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Wayne Pivac was asked about Jac Morgan's omission this afternoon...

"We've asked him to improve, if he can, in that area of physicality when he's over the ball, being even stronger than he is."

I’m sorry… what? Over the ball is Morgan’s biggest strength - he’s absolutely amazing at it. I really can’t understand some of Pivac’s selections. 
it’s the size and physicality of the Boks. It seems pretty sensible to be cautious with him at his age. Well done Pivac from me

Jac's the same age as Basham LOLLOLLOLLOL
Let’s say physical maturity then . They are both ‘young‘ men but for me Basham has more physicality. Anyway I can see Pivacs logic. He may be called up anyway with training injuries 

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Posted By: Dic Penderyn
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 3:59pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Dic Penderyn Dic Penderyn wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Wayne Pivac was asked about Jac Morgan's omission this afternoon...

"We've asked him to improve, if he can, in that area of physicality when he's over the ball, being even stronger than he is."

I’m sorry… what? Over the ball is Morgan’s biggest strength - he’s absolutely amazing at it. I really can’t understand some of Pivac’s selections. 
it’s the size and physicality of the Boks. It seems pretty sensible to be cautious with him at his age. Well done Pivac from me

Jac's the same age as Basham LOLLOLLOLLOL
Let’s say physical maturity then . They are both ‘young‘ men but for me Basham has more physicality. Anyway I can see Pivacs logic. He may be called up anyway with training injuries 

Nonsense.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 4:01pm
Lydiate with his age and injury history won’t cope on those hard fast tracks. They had seb davies starting the last two tests now he is not on the tour? We get this lad over from ulster now we drop him from the squad. Patchell will get injured nailed on


Posted By: Mugwuffin
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 4:53pm
Originally posted by Scrletsfan32x Scrletsfan32x wrote:

Beggars belief why he’s picked Lydiate ahead of Jac Morgan/Botham. I don’t know why AWJ is going because he needs a rest as he’s had two nasty injuries. Doesn’t surprise me that Foxy hasn’t been included and he’s been nowhere near his best all season, this could be the beginning of the end for his Welsh career. Really hope JBW and Notth start together. They could be a weapon in defence and attack. Ryan needs to push on as Lake is in good form.
Lydiate is the most physical blindside in Wales and will chop down anyone that runs at him on the gain line no matter how big and powerful, and they will be very big and powerful in SA. That’s clearly why he’s been picked. The question is is his lack of mobility going to be more of a factor than his physicality. 


Posted By: gaffer
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 7:18pm
Originally posted by Dic Penderyn Dic Penderyn wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Dic Penderyn Dic Penderyn wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Wayne Pivac was asked about Jac Morgan's omission this afternoon...

"We've asked him to improve, if he can, in that area of physicality when he's over the ball, being even stronger than he is."

I’m sorry… what? Over the ball is Morgan’s biggest strength - he’s absolutely amazing at it. I really can’t understand some of Pivac’s selections. 
it’s the size and physicality of the Boks. It seems pretty sensible to be cautious with him at his age. Well done Pivac from me

Jac's the same age as Basham LOLLOLLOLLOL
Let’s say physical maturity then . They are both ‘young‘ men but for me Basham has more physicality. Anyway I can see Pivacs logic. He may be called up anyway with training injuries 

Nonsense.

Basham is a stone lighter than Jac. Jac 1st in turnovers in the URC, Basham 49th...


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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 7:23pm
Bssham is more physical as a carrier jac more physical at the breakdown, motor mouth pivac has gone public on his “candid chats” with both of them to the media.  Shame he’s not so candd on his own many short comings. Btw lydiate can’t even make the ospreys team and he is hardly one for the future. He wAs a too player but his best days are nigh on a decade behind him Great pick wayne


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 11:01pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Bssham is more physical as a carrier jac more physical at the breakdown, motor mouth pivac has gone public on his “candid chats” with both of them to the media.  Shame he’s not so candd on his own many short comings. Btw lydiate can’t even make the ospreys team and he is hardly one for the future. He wAs a too player but his best days are nigh on a decade behind him Great pick wayne
 

You will be getting the  “nonsense “ comment from the dic if you’re not careful 😂 I agree with you that Basham has the greater power and dynamism despite the weight charts. Morgan is just a very good jackaler who I feel the big Boks will smash off the ball. He needs a more rounded game !  Lydiate is a left field choice but he has been injured a lot and if he’s fit he may be a bit of a wild card . Dan must be really chuffed. Like you it’s a worry selecting Dan but I wish him well .


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Posted By: Dic Penderyn
Date Posted: 19 May 2022 at 6:10am
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Bssham is more physical as a carrier jac more physical at the breakdown, motor mouth pivac has gone public on his “candid chats” with both of them to the media.  Shame he’s not so candd on his own many short comings. Btw lydiate can’t even make the ospreys team and he is hardly one for the future. He wAs a too player but his best days are nigh on a decade behind him Great pick wayne
 

You will be getting the  “nonsense “ comment from the dic if you’re not careful 😂 I agree with you that Basham has the greater power and dynamism despite the weight charts. Morgan is just a very good jackaler who I feel the big Boks will smash off the ball. He needs a more rounded game !  Lydiate is a left field choice but he has been injured a lot and if he’s fit he may be a bit of a wild card . Dan must be really chuffed. Like you it’s a worry selecting Dan but I wish him well .

You've made a (bigger) fool of yourself,so just call it a day,why don't you?


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 19 May 2022 at 7:42am
Its more of the same from Pivac for me - muddled selections & far too much information put into the public domain. As Booth stated Jac Morgan is in the top 3 in the URC for tackles made, dominant tackles made & turnovers. Basham is nowhere. The breakdown is a key area & Pivac has decided to leave the most effective fit breakdown player in Wales behind to put on weight over the summer. It beggars belief. 

I welcome Reffell's selection because for me he should now start. Pivac has talked consistently about needing for the World cup a player who can play 5/6 so he drops Seb Davies with Tchiunza not fit????? Lydiate has been selected to try to keep the score down - he won't be found wanting in guts thats for sure but what about his match fitness. Same can also be said of AWJ. 

As for the selection of Rhys Patchell I am totally baffled. As soon as Johnny Mac was passed unfit the panic set in as our full back resources in Wales are totally underwhelming. Glance across the bridge with envy at England having Steward & now Arundell who both could play at the top level for another 12 years. For me Rhys is a fine player but, with his injury record, he needs careful nurturing back to top level rugby. Peel has been very careful with him quite correctly in my opinion. It is nightmare scenario if he gets too much exposure on this tour. 

I can see nothing but a convincing series win by South Africa 3-0 with Wales being lucky to get within 15-20 points. I sincerely hope I am wrong.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 19 May 2022 at 4:25pm
More pearls of wisdom from pivac saying cutting the number of sides like scotland has will see the welsh team improve. Cos scotland have been so dominantWink


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 7:47am
Interesting article by Gwyn Jones today. As Gwyn was one of Pivac's biggest supporters when he was appointed his current views are going to be  a tough read for Pivac. Pivac's latest comments about Jac Morgan & the apparent reduced importance of the jackle sound to me, among many others, as the words of a coach who has totally lost the plot. 

The breakdown and the speed or lack of it that teams can produce clean ball is of paramount importance in breaking down good defensive systems. Reffell has been wonderfully effective at slowing down/pilfering opposition ball all season so surely deserves his place. However Jac Morgan has been the stand out Welsh based player at this skill & gets told to work on this area of his game which, correct me if I am wrong, is one of his strengths!!!!

Parallel to this advice from on high Pivac is very vocal that he wants his 7 to be a strong carrying option so ok if Jac was being told he was being dropped to concentrate on improving his carrying it may make some sense but as usual with Pivac his comments are often very contradictory. 


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 8:18am
Your in trouble when the weather girl(sian lloyd) thinks she could do a better job and thinks your crap.LOL


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 8:23am
Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Your in trouble when the weather girl(sian lloyd) thinks she could do a better job and thinks your crap.LOL

Your in even more trouble when many Welsh rugby supporters agree.LOL


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 8:36am
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Your in trouble when the weather girl(sian lloyd) thinks she could do a better job and thinks your crap.LOL

Your in even more trouble when many Welsh rugby supporters agree.LOL
LOL


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 9:05am
I'll be honest I am not sure I really care about the tour in the summer such is the state of the WRU et al.


Posted By: Scrletsfan32x
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 10:16am
I said it from the beginning that Pivac was out of his depth. He had one good season with the Scarlets (League title) and that was mostly down to stalwarts like Beirne, Barclay and Co. I think Wayne’s days are numbered because it’s obvious that he hasn’t got a clear vision on what he wants from the team and keeps chopping and changing every game.


Posted By: Realwest
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 11:43am
Wales getting smashed 3-0 could well be a blessing in disguise that leads to Pivac getting his marching orders I feel that he’s not up to the standard of International coaching.

I vote for Sian Lloyd getting the coaching job and Pivac can crack on and do the weather. 


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 11:53am
Would the WRU have the gumption to get rid of Pivac a year out from France 2023???? If they do we are probably looking at a caretaker coach to lead us to France with a full time appointment to follow. If I was in charge in Cardiff I would break the bank & sign up Shaun Edwards as head coach after the World cup with a four year deal & allow him to appoint his team of coaches.

I would also be sounding out Rob Howley & Mike Ruddock for the caretaker role. 


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 11:55am
Clueless and he is willing to take the ship down with him, he has already thrown heyward over board . Awful selector , awful man manager only a mix of red cards and covid cancellations have kept this bluffer in a job so long


Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 12:08pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Clueless and he is willing to take the ship down with him, he has already thrown heyward over board . Awful selector , awful man manager only a mix of red cards and covid cancellations have kept this bluffer in a job so long
Bit harsh when you consider the injuries he has has to put up with and the turmoil that Welsh rugby is in. It is only towards the end of the season that the Ospreys have shown some form we have been dreadfully inconsistent and dreadful at times and the less said about the East Wales regions the better.
I will agree that his selections are sometimes baffling especially back row but in all other positions he has been picking the best available. 
If all fit we will have decent side for first test and we could surprise the Boks. 


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Posted By: dyniol53
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 3:02pm
I was a Pivac fan, confident he could do it at this level but all the commenters here [beep]ging him off seem to be closer to the truth than I was. 

Just so muddled. Must be hard being a player not really knowing what the plan is, who’s gonna be to your left and right.


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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 3:08pm
Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Clueless and he is willing to take the ship down with him, he has already thrown heyward over board . Awful selector , awful man manager only a mix of red cards and covid cancellations have kept this bluffer in a job so long
Bit harsh when you consider the injuries he has has to put up with and the turmoil that Welsh rugby is in. It is only towards the end of the season that the Ospreys have shown some form we have been dreadfully inconsistent and dreadful at times and the less said about the East Wales regions the better.
I will agree that his selections are sometimes baffling especially back row but in all other positions he has been picking the best available. 
If all fit we will have decent side for first test and we could surprise the Boks. 

Not really Why. AWJ against Italy???? Continually selecting Lewis & Carre???? Sheedy? Tompkins? An out of form Foxy? By surprise do you actually mean beat them or keep the score respectable. 


Posted By: hartson11
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 10:30pm
After watching Ospreys v Bulls, it's hugely concerning how the Ospreys were bullied, and generally outplayed in a match where the scoreline flattered them greatly.

Tonight they had possibly the Wales summer starting tight 5, Wales' best fit openside, an international half back pairing and Wales summer starting centre partnership potentially. 

Not Earth shattering news but we're in trouble as a nation, this summer and well beyond.


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 10:48pm
Originally posted by hartson11 hartson11 wrote:

After watching Ospreys v Bulls, it's hugely concerning how the Ospreys were bullied, and generally outplayed in a match where the scoreline flattered them greatly.

Tonight they had possibly the Wales summer starting tight 5, Wales' best fit openside, an international half back pairing and Wales summer starting centre partnership potentially. 

Not Earth shattering news but we're in trouble as a nation, this summer and well beyond.
Someone who is good at Geography would spot the earth shattering but only after it happened.

If only the WRU had a competent business team running its multi-million business. 


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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 21 May 2022 at 7:20am
Originally posted by hartson11 hartson11 wrote:

After watching Ospreys v Bulls, it's hugely concerning how the Ospreys were bullied, and generally outplayed in a match where the scoreline flattered them greatly.

Tonight they had possibly the Wales summer starting tight 5, Wales' best fit openside, an international half back pairing and Wales summer starting centre partnership potentially. 

Not Earth shattering news but we're in trouble as a nation, this summer and well beyond.

Spot on Hartson. Very ominous signs for Pivac with the Ospreys stuck in reverse scrumtime. Even more ominous is the fact that nobody from the Bulls front 5 will probably make the Boks starting team. Another huge area of concern for Pivac was the ease with which Hendricks controlled the midfield.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 08 June 2022 at 7:49am
So Sam Wainwright has been called up to the welsh squad with Leon Brown injured. Anyone know much about this ex RGC player? What does that say about WGJ's place in the pecking order. If Tomas Francis gets a knock its not going to be pretty viewing at scrumtime. Even with a fully fit & firing first choice front row of Wyn, Ryan & Francis we are going to have our work cut out getting parity at scrum and maul. 


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 08 June 2022 at 8:53am
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

So Sam Wainwright has been called up to the welsh squad with Leon Brown injured. Anyone know much about this ex RGC player? What does that say about WGJ's place in the pecking order. If Tomas Francis gets a knock its not going to be pretty viewing at scrumtime. Even with a fully fit & firing first choice front row of Wyn, Ryan & Francis we are going to have our work cut out getting parity at scrum and maul. 

He's barely featured for Saracens outside of the championship & the premiership cup so I don't know much about him really. It does kind of remind me of the picking of Bradley Roberts really & getting him capped with a view to bringing him to Wales when its contract time.

TBH I don't think WGJ is anywhere near International standard at the minute, I have been less than impressed with him when I have seen him. I firmly have Javan as our starting TH with either Lee or WGJ benching depending on who is fit.


Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 08 June 2022 at 12:01pm
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

So Sam Wainwright has been called up to the welsh squad with Leon Brown injured. Anyone know much about this ex RGC player? What does that say about WGJ's place in the pecking order. If Tomas Francis gets a knock its not going to be pretty viewing at scrumtime. Even with a fully fit & firing first choice front row of Wyn, Ryan & Francis we are going to have our work cut out getting parity at scrum and maul. 

He's barely featured for Saracens outside of the championship & the premiership cup so I don't know much about him really. It does kind of remind me of the picking of Bradley Roberts really & getting him capped with a view to bringing him to Wales when its contract time.

TBH I don't think WGJ is anywhere near International standard at the minute, I have been less than impressed with him when I have seen him. I firmly have Javan as our starting TH with either Lee or WGJ benching depending on who is fit.
Exactly Pivac should have capped Javan before Scotland he is much better than the alternatives of Lewis and a bloke who is about 5th choice at Saracens. 


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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 08 June 2022 at 2:02pm
Tough gig for wainwright with no premiership starts to come on vs the bomb squad, wgj or botha better options??


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 09 June 2022 at 7:09am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Tough gig for wainwright with no premiership starts to come on vs the bomb squad, wgj or botha better options??

Our front row depth is pretty thin especially at tight head. Whoever understudies Francis is going to be in for a tough tour. If they stay fit Wyn, Gareth Thomas, Ryan & Lake should be ok. As Why says the best Welsh based tight head after Francis over the past  few months has been Javan so Pivac's obsession with English based players continues to undermine his statements about preparation time. 


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 28 June 2022 at 7:38am
Couple of pieces of good news for Wales - squad is fully fit with no injury worries. Secondly Pieter Steph du Toit will not be fit for the first test. That means that two of their first choice back row will be missing - Pieter Steph & Duane Vermeulen. Possible first caps for Louw & Roos???

Wales announce their team on Thursday & I will be very interested to see if Pivac is true to his words. Firstly after the Italian debacle he admitted that from now until the World cup he would be selecting his best team available. Secondly he has always stated that his English based players are at a disadvantage due to reduced preparation time. That should mean that Tompkins, Reffell & Wainwright will not see action in the first test. 


Posted By: Jones2004
Date Posted: 28 June 2022 at 10:14am
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Couple of pieces of good news for Wales - squad is fully fit with no injury worries. Secondly Pieter Steph du Toit will not be fit for the first test. That means that two of their first choice back row will be missing - Pieter Steph & Duane Vermeulen. Possible first caps for Louw & Roos???

Wales announce their team on Thursday & I will be very interested to see if Pivac is true to his words. Firstly after the Italian debacle he admitted that from now until the World cup he would be selecting his best team available. Secondly he has always stated that his English based players are at a disadvantage due to reduced preparation time. That should mean that Tompkins, Reffell & Wainwright will not see action in the first test. 
To be fair doesn’t he have full access to the English based players for this tour as the domestic season is already over? If so, this is surely the one occasion that it makes precious little difference where the players are based. That said I, like you, have precious little confidence that we’ll see a selection that keeps to what Pivac has previously said, or that has any real chance of winning the match. 


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 28 June 2022 at 10:21am
Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Couple of pieces of good news for Wales - squad is fully fit with no injury worries. Secondly Pieter Steph du Toit will not be fit for the first test. That means that two of their first choice back row will be missing - Pieter Steph & Duane Vermeulen. Possible first caps for Louw & Roos???

Wales announce their team on Thursday & I will be very interested to see if Pivac is true to his words. Firstly after the Italian debacle he admitted that from now until the World cup he would be selecting his best team available. Secondly he has always stated that his English based players are at a disadvantage due to reduced preparation time. That should mean that Tompkins, Reffell & Wainwright will not see action in the first test. 
To be fair doesn’t he have full access to the English based players for this tour as the domestic season is already over? If so, this is surely the one occasion that it makes precious little difference where the players are based. That said I, like you, have precious little confidence that we’ll see a selection that keeps to what Pivac has previously said, or that has any real chance of winning the match. 

He has had access to most English based players but the three mentioned did not join up with Wales until Sunday/Monday of last week due to their involvement in the Gallagher final so Pivac has had precious little time with them as they flew out on Thursday with Friday being recovery & hotel transfer. Sunday, as per the images was a day off so he has had no more access to those 3 than for a normal 6 nations campaign. 

Indeed if the Premiership rules were followed to the letter no English based players would have been eligible to join the squad until after the final. 


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 28 June 2022 at 10:44am
A lot of clamour from people saying that Carre should start as he has improved his work around the park but for me is still a huge potential liability at scrum time. I think it will be Wyn, Ryan & Francis starting but wouldn't be annoyed if Lake started at 2.

In terms of lock surely it has to be Beard & Rowlands starting but then they have dragged AWJ out so that makes me think he will be in line to start. Would like to see a back row of Navidi, Reffell & Faletau but think Pivac will opt for Lydiate, Basham & Faletau.


Posted By: ap sior
Date Posted: 28 June 2022 at 10:53am
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Couple of pieces of good news for Wales - squad is fully fit with no injury worries. Secondly Pieter Steph du Toit will not be fit for the first test. That means that two of their first choice back row will be missing - Pieter Steph & Duane Vermeulen. Possible first caps for Louw & Roos???

Wales announce their team on Thursday & I will be very interested to see if Pivac is true to his words. Firstly after the Italian debacle he admitted that from now until the World cup he would be selecting his best team available. Secondly he has always stated that his English based players are at a disadvantage due to reduced preparation time. That should mean that Tompkins, Reffell & Wainwright will not see action in the first test. 
To be fair doesn’t he have full access to the English based players for this tour as the domestic season is already over? If so, this is surely the one occasion that it makes precious little difference where the players are based. That said I, like you, have precious little confidence that we’ll see a selection that keeps to what Pivac has previously said, or that has any real chance of winning the match. 

He has had access to most English based players but the three mentioned did not join up with Wales until Sunday/Monday of last week due to their involvement in the Gallagher final so Pivac has had precious little time with them as they flew out on Thursday with Friday being recovery & hotel transfer. Sunday, as per the images was a day off so he has had no more access to those 3 than for a normal 6 nations campaign. 

Indeed if the Premiership rules were followed to the letter no English based players would have been eligible to join the squad until after the final. 

I think I read somewhere that the English based members of the SA squad have arrived back late. The Prem Clubs kept them until the season ended, i.e. after the Prem final.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 28 June 2022 at 11:11am
Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Couple of pieces of good news for Wales - squad is fully fit with no injury worries. Secondly Pieter Steph du Toit will not be fit for the first test. That means that two of their first choice back row will be missing - Pieter Steph & Duane Vermeulen. Possible first caps for Louw & Roos???

Wales announce their team on Thursday & I will be very interested to see if Pivac is true to his words. Firstly after the Italian debacle he admitted that from now until the World cup he would be selecting his best team available. Secondly he has always stated that his English based players are at a disadvantage due to reduced preparation time. That should mean that Tompkins, Reffell & Wainwright will not see action in the first test. 
To be fair doesn’t he have full access to the English based players for this tour as the domestic season is already over? If so, this is surely the one occasion that it makes precious little difference where the players are based. That said I, like you, have precious little confidence that we’ll see a selection that keeps to what Pivac has previously said, or that has any real chance of winning the match. 

He has had access to most English based players but the three mentioned did not join up with Wales until Sunday/Monday of last week due to their involvement in the Gallagher final so Pivac has had precious little time with them as they flew out on Thursday with Friday being recovery & hotel transfer. Sunday, as per the images was a day off so he has had no more access to those 3 than for a normal 6 nations campaign. 

Indeed if the Premiership rules were followed to the letter no English based players would have been eligible to join the squad until after the final. 

I think I read somewhere that the English based members of the SA squad have arrived back late. The Prem Clubs kept them until the season ended, i.e. after the Prem final.

I also read that which is in line with the stated rules. However I know that Biggar & Faletau were in the Vale on 13th/14th June as my mate was staying there those days/nights and spoke to both.


Posted By: dyniol53
Date Posted: 29 June 2022 at 11:25am
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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 4:44pm
Wales doing ok gAreth thomas excellent boks 10 dreadful


Posted By: EJPT
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 4:52pm
Good performance so far. Some dubious penalties but also some professional fouls by wales. Need some possession. They are jumping into the tackle. Reffel is awesome. Another 7 on the seemingly endless conveyer belt of welsh flankers 


Posted By: surfing-mtber
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 4:54pm
3-18!  Two for Rees-Zammit!


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Posted By: surfing-mtber
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 5:02pm
3-18 HT, down to 14 men, Biggar YC.


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Posted By: EJPT
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 5:25pm
He took the quick tap and fumbled it yet was allowed to take it again 


Posted By: Mr Ian
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 5:26pm
the best first half of the season...great pace, focused on the game, really well played


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 5:36pm
Jamkies off boks get 14 unanswred points


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 5:37pm
Originally posted by EJPT EJPT wrote:

He took the quick tap and fumbled it yet was allowed to take it again 
think ref had blown before he tapped,  lucky though


Posted By: John
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 5:38pm
The screw is being tightened now though, 15-18 after 52 minutes. And Francis has had a major head knock. So one of the two rookie tight heads on the bench next week?  15-21 now.....


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 5:53pm
Long ten minutes ahead here


Posted By: Cofi
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 6:00pm
Originally posted by John John wrote:

The screw is being tightened now though, 15-18 after 52 minutes. And Francis has had a major head knock. So one of the two rookie tight heads on the bench next week?  15-21 now.....
Worried they might put Wyn on the bench as tight head cover. Hope not Carre's tackling has been non-existant


Posted By: Mogwen
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 6:05pm
Carre, lewis and beard are liabilities. Listening to comentary on internet and tbey only highlight negatives with them. Reffell outstanding by all accounts

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Posted By: N14
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 6:13pm
To kick the ball away with 10 seconds on the clock at 29-29 was a hideous decision


Posted By: John
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 6:21pm
Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

To kick the ball away with 10 seconds on the clock at 29-29 was a hideous decision

Yes, not to mention being down to 13 players and then Biggar gifts the penalty like an 18 year old playing his first senior game.......


Posted By: Jones2004
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 6:22pm
Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

To kick the ball away with 10 seconds on the clock at 29-29 was a hideous decision
Where one the pitch were they? I don’t have Sky so couldn’t watch the game so do those that watched the game understand why they kicked it as it doesn’t make any sense from the internet / radio commentary?


Posted By: Scrletsfan32x
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 6:37pm
Can’t fault the boys today, a few creaks at scrum time but this ref had an absolute shocker today.
How he is an international ref I’ll never know. He constantly let the Bok players surround him. Some of his calls were even worse especially the AWJ card


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 6:44pm
Originally posted by Scrletsfan32x Scrletsfan32x wrote:

Can’t fault the boys today, a few creaks at scrum time but this ref had an absolute shocker today.
How he is an international ref I’ll never know. He constantly let the Bok players surround him. Some of his calls were even worse especially the AWJ card
letter of law he was spot on tbh said any more pens a card, cue an awj pen


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 6:44pm
Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

To kick the ball away with 10 seconds on the clock at 29-29 was a hideous decision
spot on carre is abysmal unfit lazy and a penalty machine, picked ahead of wyn cheers pivac. Biggar screaming at ref waving his arms just annoyed the ref dreadful captain


Posted By: N14
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 7:04pm
Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

To kick the ball away with 10 seconds on the clock at 29-29 was a hideous decision
Where one the pitch were they? I don’t have Sky so couldn’t watch the game so do those that watched the game understand why they kicked it as it doesn’t make any sense from the internet / radio commentary?

I have no way of going back to check, but from memory I would say we were in our own half around the 10 metre line. Happy to be corrected on the positioning though. Tomos went for the box kick and did shunt it as far as he possibly could, in order for the Boks to have to run most of the field to score. But at 29-29, with two men down and 10 seconds on the clock, I’d have gone through a phase or two, keep it tight in the forwards and then kick it off the park. Leave with a draw and go all out for the win next week. 


Posted By: N14
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 7:07pm
Originally posted by Scrletsfan32x Scrletsfan32x wrote:

Can’t fault the boys today, a few creaks at scrum time but this ref had an absolute shocker today.
How he is an international ref I’ll never know. He constantly let the Bok players surround him. Some of his calls were even worse especially the AWJ card
Sorry but I think that’s total nonsense. I didn’t think the ref had the best game and certainly didn’t control the game well today. However we had ample opportunity to win that game. Our discipline was terrible for much of the match and you simply can’t get away with it at international level. The cards seemed legitimate enough to me.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 7:07pm
Go through the phases untill time up the kick it out, basic basuc stuff. Paris all over again


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 7:26pm
Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

To kick the ball away with 10 seconds on the clock at 29-29 was a hideous decision
Where one the pitch were they? I don’t have Sky so couldn’t watch the game so do those that watched the game understand why they kicked it as it doesn’t make any sense from the internet / radio commentary?

I have no way of going back to check, but from memory I would say we were in our own half around the 10 metre line. Happy to be corrected on the positioning though. Tomos went for the box kick and did shunt it as far as he possibly could, in order for the Boks to have to run most of the field to score. But at 29-29, with two men down and 10 seconds on the clock, I’d have gone through a phase or two, keep it tight in the forwards and then kick it off the park. Leave with a draw and go all out for the win next week. 
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