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Topic: We're so poor at marketing
Posted By: Fscarlet
Subject: We're so poor at marketing
Date Posted: 10 August 2022 at 11:33am
We just don't help ourselves really....

Just had a text from the Scarlets:

"Scarlets v Ospreys Tickets are on sale now!
17/10/2022 | 17:15 KO

Link to book"

So amateurish. 



Replies:
Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 10 August 2022 at 1:06pm
In times of constrained budgets and difficulty in getting good staff (in many professions/walks of life), checks and balances often go out of the window, resulting in something like the above.

Great intent to send text messages promoting the match but the good is torpedoed by the small but important error.

It would be instructive to know how many staff are working on the marketing/commercial side now compared to pre-Covid. For a while it has been all hands to the various pumps and iirc in one are 2 folk were trying to do 6 people’s jobs at one point last season.


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Posted By: tannerbankboy
Date Posted: 10 August 2022 at 2:00pm
From looking at the website all it seems to be now is marketing.  Wanting to sell tickets and little else.  Rarely updated and little historical information.


Posted By: N14
Date Posted: 10 August 2022 at 2:04pm
I stopped receiving text messages from them a little while ago. Never instructed them to stop so not sure what happened there!


Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 10 August 2022 at 3:34pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

In times of constrained budgets and difficulty in getting good staff (in many professions/walks of life), checks and balances often go out of the window, resulting in something like the above.

Great intent to send text messages promoting the match but the good is torpedoed by the small but important error.

It would be instructive to know how many staff are working on the marketing/commercial side now compared to pre-Covid. For a while it has been all hands to the various pumps and iirc in one are 2 folk were trying to do 6 people’s jobs at one point last season.
We've never recovered from losing Nerys IMHO. 
The website currently has a huge banner promoting the 150th anniversary, with "Look how far we've come since Llanelli in 1872"

I clicked on it, expecting to find some story to read, but there's nothing to click Confused


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Posted By: Rob o'r Bont
Date Posted: 10 August 2022 at 4:33pm
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

We just don't help ourselves really....

Just had a text from the Scarlets:

"Scarlets v Ospreys Tickets are on sale now!
17/10/2022 | 17:15 KO

Link to book"

So amateurish. 
Poor really, and could cost the club money in terms of missed ticket sales.

But who gets these text messages anyway? I used to get texts but not any more.  I get texts from the Blues and Ospreys mind which winds me up a treat. I even got a phone call from the Ospreys last year to ask if my company would sponsor them. 


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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 10 August 2022 at 4:36pm
Originally posted by Rob o'r Bont Rob o'r Bont wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

We just don't help ourselves really....

Just had a text from the Scarlets:

"Scarlets v Ospreys Tickets are on sale now!
17/10/2022 | 17:15 KO

Link to book"

So amateurish. 
Poor really, and could cost the club money in terms of missed ticket sales.

But who gets these text messages anyway? I used to get texts but not any more.  I get texts from the Blues and Ospreys mind which winds me up a treat. I even got a phone call from the Ospreys last year to ask if my company would sponsor them. 
How did you reply?

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Posted By: Rob o'r Bont
Date Posted: 10 August 2022 at 7:12pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Rob o'r Bont Rob o'r Bont wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

We just don't help ourselves really....

Just had a text from the Scarlets:

"Scarlets v Ospreys Tickets are on sale now!
17/10/2022 | 17:15 KO

Link to book"

So amateurish. 
Poor really, and could cost the club money in terms of missed ticket sales.

But who gets these text messages anyway? I used to get texts but not any more.  I get texts from the Blues and Ospreys mind which winds me up a treat. I even got a phone call from the Ospreys last year to ask if my company would sponsor them. 
How did you reply?
Ha Ha, you would have loved it. I said unless you've got a player called Ryan Elias, Scott Williams or Jonathan Davies, I'm not buying. LOL

In fairness the guy on the phone was quite understanding and polite.  He did wonder why a business with an SA postcode could be a Scarlet and I had to explain that the SA postcode runs all the way over to Pembrokeshire and up to Ceredigion. 


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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 10 August 2022 at 7:14pm
LOLLOL
Originally posted by Rob o'r Bont Rob o'r Bont wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Rob o'r Bont Rob o'r Bont wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

We just don't help ourselves really....

Just had a text from the Scarlets:

"Scarlets v Ospreys Tickets are on sale now!
17/10/2022 | 17:15 KO

Link to book"

So amateurish. 
Poor really, and could cost the club money in terms of missed ticket sales.

But who gets these text messages anyway? I used to get texts but not any more.  I get texts from the Blues and Ospreys mind which winds me up a treat. I even got a phone call from the Ospreys last year to ask if my company would sponsor them. 
How did you reply?
Ha Ha, you would have loved it. I said unless you've got a player called Ryan Elias, Scott Williams or Jonathan Davies, I'm not buying. 

In fairness the guy on the phone was quite understanding and polite.  He did wonder why a business with an SA postcode could be a Scarlet and I had to explain that the SA postcode runs all the way over to Pembrokeshire and up to Ceredigion. 
LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL

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Posted By: philtheturk56
Date Posted: 10 August 2022 at 7:59pm
i have also stopped having txt messages, i have even given them two separate email add, still limed on that side with info.
i never had anything to renew ST, so went down to sort it



Posted By: philtheturk56
Date Posted: 10 August 2022 at 8:02pm
Next season sees the end of a hell of a lot of Debenture seats, their 15 years being up.

A large amount of money could leave the coffers to sort that issue out.

You would think, that the club would be in contact to extend these, if required, seems to be a forgot issue!!!!

could easily be in excess of half a million involved, so yes marketing is lax


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 10 August 2022 at 8:28pm
Originally posted by philtheturk56 philtheturk56 wrote:

Next season sees the end of a hell of a lot of Debenture seats, their 15 years being up.

A large amount of money could leave the coffers to sort that issue out.

You would think, that the club would be in contact to extend these, if required, seems to be a forgot issue!!!!

could easily be in excess of half a million involved, so yes marketing is lax
Yes quite a mature group overall as well whenever I have wandered in there. The club needs to market that opportunity efficiently and in good time . 

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Posted By: Mugwuffin
Date Posted: 11 August 2022 at 12:36pm
Originally posted by Rob o'r Bont Rob o'r Bont wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

We just don't help ourselves really....

Just had a text from the Scarlets:

"Scarlets v Ospreys Tickets are on sale now!
17/10/2022 | 17:15 KO

Link to book"

So amateurish. 
Poor really, and could cost the club money in terms of missed ticket sales.

But who gets these text messages anyway? I used to get texts but not any more.  I get texts from the Blues and Ospreys mind which winds me up a treat. I even got a phone call from the Ospreys last year to ask if my company would sponsor them. 
I’ve had a text, email, plus I’ve seen the club advertising the fixture on social media. 

They probably only retain phone numbers for a certain period of time. I’ve seen criticism of the Ospreys over the past few weeks relating to them trying to advertise season tickets to a lapsed customer who passed away a number of years ago.


Posted By: Captain
Date Posted: 11 August 2022 at 5:08pm
I accept it may not be the best, but why don’t you (everyone who is complaining) off some of their time to help out with marketing. 

Then we can complain about you


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 11 August 2022 at 5:40pm
Originally posted by Captain Captain wrote:

I accept it may not be the best, but why don’t you (everyone who is complaining) off some of their time to help out with marketing. 

Then we can complain about you
I'm pretty sure the majority of the forum members would know the date of one of our biggest games of the season.


Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 11 August 2022 at 5:40pm
Originally posted by Captain Captain wrote:

I accept it may not be the best, but why don’t you (everyone who is complaining) off some of their time to help out with marketing. 

Then we can complain about you

Because it’s someone’s job. They’re being paid to do it. 


Posted By: Rob o'r Bont
Date Posted: 11 August 2022 at 6:56pm
Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by Rob o'r Bont Rob o'r Bont wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

We just don't help ourselves really....

Just had a text from the Scarlets:

"Scarlets v Ospreys Tickets are on sale now!
17/10/2022 | 17:15 KO

Link to book"

So amateurish. 
Poor really, and could cost the club money in terms of missed ticket sales.

But who gets these text messages anyway? I used to get texts but not any more.  I get texts from the Blues and Ospreys mind which winds me up a treat. I even got a phone call from the Ospreys last year to ask if my company would sponsor them. 
I’ve had a text, email, plus I’ve seen the club advertising the fixture on social media. 

They probably only retain phone numbers for a certain period of time. I’ve seen criticism of the Ospreys over the past few weeks relating to them trying to advertise season tickets to a lapsed customer who passed away a number of years ago.
Good point about only retaining phone numbers for a certain period of time.  You would think they would keep regular ticket purchasers on their  lists though.

I like the Captain's idea of forum members offering help. Wouldn't be a bad idea for the club to set up a focus group or something where the club could test their marketing material.  I'm sure they would get good and constructive feedback.


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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 11 August 2022 at 7:48pm
Originally posted by Captain Captain wrote:

I accept it may not be the best, but why don’t you (everyone who is complaining) off some of their time to help out with marketing. 

Then we can complain about you
why stop there? Why not let a few  of us have the odd game? If we are poor the forum can give us some stickWinkWink


Posted By: Seagultaf
Date Posted: 11 August 2022 at 8:16pm
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

We just don't help ourselves really....

Just had a text from the Scarlets:

"Scarlets v Ospreys Tickets are on sale now!
17/10/2022 | 17:15 KO

Link to book"

So amateurish. 

I think thats a great proposal, delay the game until both sides can field all their top players.


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 11 August 2022 at 9:22pm
Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

We just don't help ourselves really....

Just had a text from the Scarlets:

"Scarlets v Ospreys Tickets are on sale now!
17/10/2022 | 17:15 KO

Link to book"

So amateurish. 

I think thats a great proposal, delay the game until both sides can field all their top players.
ClapClapClapClap

Brilliant response ClapClapClapClapClap


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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 11 August 2022 at 9:23pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by Captain Captain wrote:

I accept it may not be the best, but why don’t you (everyone who is complaining) off some of their time to help out with marketing. 

Then we can complain about you
why stop there? Why not let a few  of us have the odd game? If we are poor the forum can give us some stickWinkWink
You’re in good form tonight. 

Anything to share on the Wine and Other drinks thread?


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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 11 August 2022 at 10:27pm
Yes posring nowWink


Posted By: hartson11
Date Posted: 17 August 2022 at 9:52am
It's quite a sorry state of affairs really. Tickets have been on sale for the Ospreys game for well over a week, and I've barely seen any promotion or marketing for it, and this is supposedly our biggest payday of the season at the gate. As a result, early ticket sales look very slow. A month to salvage it, but I've seen more promotion from unofficial scarlet twitter pages like the Supporters Group and Sosban Rugby than I have from the club itself. 


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 17 August 2022 at 9:59am
Originally posted by hartson11 hartson11 wrote:

It's quite a sorry state of affairs really. Tickets have been on sale for the Ospreys game for well over a week, and I've barely seen any promotion or marketing for it, and this is supposedly our biggest payday of the season at the gate. As a result, early ticket sales look very slow. A month to salvage it, but I've seen more promotion from unofficial scarlet twitter pages like the Supporters Group and Sosban Rugby than I have from the club itself. 
the october game is sold out WinkLOLLOLLOL


Posted By: PritchyTheScarlet
Date Posted: 17 August 2022 at 4:54pm
Originally posted by hartson11 hartson11 wrote:

It's quite a sorry state of affairs really. Tickets have been on sale for the Ospreys game for well over a week, and I've barely seen any promotion or marketing for it, and this is supposedly our biggest payday of the season at the gate. As a result, early ticket sales look very slow. A month to salvage it, but I've seen more promotion from unofficial scarlet twitter pages like the Supporters Group and Sosban Rugby than I have from the club itself. 

http://twitter.com/scarlets_rugby/status/1559857703719157765" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/scarlets_rugby/status/1559857703719157765


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Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 17 August 2022 at 5:22pm
Originally posted by PritchyTheScarlet PritchyTheScarlet wrote:

Originally posted by hartson11 hartson11 wrote:

It's quite a sorry state of affairs really. Tickets have been on sale for the Ospreys game for well over a week, and I've barely seen any promotion or marketing for it, and this is supposedly our biggest payday of the season at the gate. As a result, early ticket sales look very slow. A month to salvage it, but I've seen more promotion from unofficial scarlet twitter pages like the Supporters Group and Sosban Rugby than I have from the club itself. 

http://twitter.com/scarlets_rugby/status/1559857703719157765" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/scarlets_rugby/status/1559857703719157765
Some of us dinosaurs don't do twitter or noseybook Embarrassed


Posted By: hartson11
Date Posted: 17 August 2022 at 6:25pm
Originally posted by PritchyTheScarlet PritchyTheScarlet wrote:

Originally posted by hartson11 hartson11 wrote:

It's quite a sorry state of affairs really. Tickets have been on sale for the Ospreys game for well over a week, and I've barely seen any promotion or marketing for it, and this is supposedly our biggest payday of the season at the gate. As a result, early ticket sales look very slow. A month to salvage it, but I've seen more promotion from unofficial scarlet twitter pages like the Supporters Group and Sosban Rugby than I have from the club itself. 

http://twitter.com/scarlets_rugby/status/1559857703719157765" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/scarlets_rugby/status/1559857703719157765

That was tweeted after my post. Maybe they're listening Smile


Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 17 August 2022 at 9:16pm
If the Ospreys game doesn’t get a massive crowd any argument that kick off times are the reason for poor crowds is dispelled immediately. 


Posted By: hartson11
Date Posted: 18 August 2022 at 10:18am
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

If the Ospreys game doesn’t get a massive crowd any argument that kick off times are the reason for poor crowds is dispelled immediately. 

I tend to agree. I think kick off times, whilst important, is not the be all and end all - It would simply appear sadly that professional rugby just isn't a draw at the gate anymore. A combination of apathy, poor performance, covid and poor governance has set it back years.

It's not just the Scarlets, it's the same for Wales. The number of tickets available for the Argentina, Australia and Georgia games is staggering. Doesn't appear that more than 15-18k has been sold for Argentina. Even the All Blacks game has plenty of availability. 

Other than somehow being successful all of a sudden on the pitch at pro club level, I'm not too sure how we arrest the slide either.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 18 August 2022 at 10:23am
Originally posted by hartson11 hartson11 wrote:

Originally posted by PritchyTheScarlet PritchyTheScarlet wrote:

Originally posted by hartson11 hartson11 wrote:

It's quite a sorry state of affairs really. Tickets have been on sale for the Ospreys game for well over a week, and I've barely seen any promotion or marketing for it, and this is supposedly our biggest payday of the season at the gate. As a result, early ticket sales look very slow. A month to salvage it, but I've seen more promotion from unofficial scarlet twitter pages like the Supporters Group and Sosban Rugby than I have from the club itself. 

http://twitter.com/scarlets_rugby/status/1559857703719157765" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/scarlets_rugby/status/1559857703719157765

That was tweeted after my post. Maybe they're listening Smile
quick tweet something about signing a few all blacksWink


Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 18 August 2022 at 5:40pm
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

If the Ospreys game doesn’t get a massive crowd any argument that kick off times are the reason for poor crowds is dispelled immediately. 
Not quite that simple. I expect that both sides missing some internationals, and the fact that some people have drifted out of the habit during covid, will make it harder for all sides to sell tickets.

Plus the fact that everyone is expecting to be a lot worse off this winter due to energy prices.

So we can’t compare this game to anything pre-Covid really.


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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 18 August 2022 at 6:29pm
Agreed, our biggest earner in ticket sales & both sides are without our front line internationals. I would like to think that those who didn’t play a minute will be available. 


Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 19 August 2022 at 12:04pm
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Agreed, our biggest earner in ticket sales & both sides are without our front line internationals. I would like to think that those who didn’t play a minute will be available. 

This is something I don’t get. Don’t people go to see the team play? There’s players popular with people and ex internationals playing. Do Leinster supporters ever see their internationals?😂


Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 19 August 2022 at 12:31pm
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Agreed, our biggest earner in ticket sales & both sides are without our front line internationals. I would like to think that those who didn’t play a minute will be available. 

This is something I don’t get. Don’t people go to see the team play? There’s players popular with people and ex internationals playing. Do Leinster supporters ever see their internationals?😂
Just because you don’t get it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t have an impact.
People on here are mainly hard core fans and definitely go to see the team. 
But the hard core rarely gives us more than 7k fans. I don’t know what brings the casuals in, but the presence of Team Wales players might have an impact.

Also, look at the Ospreys home crowds lately. They can barely get 5k at home. 

I’ll be delighted if we can crack 10k, but also surprised. 

The club needs to do way more than a few tweets if they want to pack the place.
The cheaper tickets and early bird deals are to be applauded though.


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Posted By: Owen111
Date Posted: 19 August 2022 at 12:36pm
Hope they can give a load of free tickets out to clubs / local communities / schools , pack the 3 stands out for the first game of the season hopefully in some sunshine. 

Get them hooked to be severely upset when every other game is in the cold and rain LOL


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 19 August 2022 at 2:51pm
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Agreed, our biggest earner in ticket sales & both sides are without our front line internationals. I would like to think that those who didn’t play a minute will be available. 

This is something I don’t get. Don’t people go to see the team play? There’s players popular with people and ex internationals playing. Do Leinster supporters ever see their internationals?😂
Do you still live walking distance SA ?perhaps if shoes go up in price Embarrassed personally we are in tenby every weekend and enjoy that more.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 19 August 2022 at 3:09pm
Send for the mad monk and his signal  in the sky idea


Posted By: hartson11
Date Posted: 19 August 2022 at 3:35pm
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Agreed, our biggest earner in ticket sales & both sides are without our front line internationals. I would like to think that those who didn’t play a minute will be available. 

This is something I don’t get. Don’t people go to see the team play? There’s players popular with people and ex internationals playing. Do Leinster supporters ever see their internationals?😂
Just because you don’t get it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t have an impact.
People on here are mainly hard core fans and definitely go to see the team. 
But the hard core rarely gives us more than 7k fans. I don’t know what brings the casuals in, but the presence of Team Wales players might have an impact.

Also, look at the Ospreys home crowds lately. They can barely get 5k at home. 

I’ll be delighted if we can crack 10k, but also surprised. 

The club needs to do way more than a few tweets if they want to pack the place.
The cheaper tickets and early bird deals are to be applauded though.

I think we'll be closer to 5k than 10k. 

Heard we'd sold 3200 season tickets. It's going to be a difficult road ahead. Can only hope we survive the next few years and see where the pro landscape is in Wales in 24 months or so.


Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 20 August 2022 at 2:51pm
Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Agreed, our biggest earner in ticket sales & both sides are without our front line internationals. I would like to think that those who didn’t play a minute will be available. 

This is something I don’t get. Don’t people go to see the team play? There’s players popular with people and ex internationals playing. Do Leinster supporters ever see their internationals?😂
Do you still live walking distance SA ?perhaps if shoes go up in price Embarrassed personally we are in tenby every weekend and enjoy that more.

😂off to Tenby for a week next week. One thing that does bring crowds is winning. 


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 21 August 2022 at 12:03am
What about very roughly 150.000 in Swansea area and what say roughly 100,000 in Scarlets catchment area and we can’t get 14.000 to fill the stadium for the major game Something is badly wrong if it’s not that sort of crowd even more so after 2 years of general  crowd lockdown 

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Posted By: pillory
Date Posted: 21 August 2022 at 8:32am
Because Ospreys is game #1, the fixture loses any sort of in-season marketing advantage Scarlets would otherwise have had:

Eg.
- TV and media promotion (noting the fixture date, providing build-up).
- In-stadium promotion.
- Success from any winning streak / tangible chance at winning silverware.
- Perception this fixture would otherwise be festive.

They'll virtually have to move the bums to seats themselves. It will be a test of how well they are able to leverage their CRM, social media etc.

Aug 19 newsletter hits the right bases:
- Ticking clock on price reduction
- Atmosphere
- Supporters' village
- Meet the players
- Fifita
- New kit


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 21 August 2022 at 10:23am
Originally posted by pillory pillory wrote:

Because Ospreys is game #1, the fixture loses any sort of in-season marketing advantage Scarlets would otherwise have had:

Eg.
- TV and media promotion (noting the fixture date, providing build-up).
- In-stadium promotion.
- Success from any winning streak / tangible chance at winning silverware.
- Perception this fixture would otherwise be festive.

They'll virtually have to move the bums to seats themselves. It will be a test of how well they are able to leverage their CRM, social media etc.

Aug 19 newsletter hits the right bases:
- Ticking clock on price reduction
- Atmosphere
- Supporters' village
- Meet the players
- Fifita
- New kit
. Good points 👍

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Posted By: Rob o'r Bont
Date Posted: 21 August 2022 at 2:30pm
I don't think as a country we've bounced back from Covid yet.  We've just come back from a holiday in Brittany, a holiday that was planned for 2020 but for obvious reasons had to be postponed.  Just an observation but there is only one Ferry per day running from Plymouth to Roscoff at the moment as opposed to two per day before Covid - and even these Ferries are not anywhere near as full as they used to be.  The beaches were half empty as well. 

I think the enthusiasm for things has been dampened down in everyone and in all walks of life - it's going to take a monumental shift to get things moving properly again.

PS - I don't think working from home is helping either - we've become very lethargic as a nation (a generalisation there I know)


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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 21 August 2022 at 2:42pm
Originally posted by Rob o'r Bont Rob o'r Bont wrote:

I don't think as a country we've bounced back from Covid yet.  We've just come back from a holiday in Brittany, a holiday that was planned for 2020 but for obvious reasons had to be postponed.  Just an observation but there is only one Ferry per day running from Plymouth to Roscoff at the moment as opposed to two per day before Covid - and even these Ferries are not anywhere near as full as they used to be.  The beaches were half empty as well. 

I think the enthusiasm for things has been dampened down in everyone and in all walks of life - it's going to take a monumental shift to get things moving properly again.

PS - I don't think working from home is helping either - we've become very lethargic as a nation (a generalisation there I know)
Hope you had a good time and the weather was good. Did you have any storms to avoid while there?

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Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 21 August 2022 at 3:31pm
Originally posted by pillory pillory wrote:

Because Ospreys is game #1, the fixture loses any sort of in-season marketing advantage Scarlets would otherwise have had:

Eg.
- TV and media promotion (noting the fixture date, providing build-up).
- In-stadium promotion.
- Success from any winning streak / tangible chance at winning silverware.
- Perception this fixture would otherwise be festive.

They'll virtually have to move the bums to seats themselves. It will be a test of how well they are able to leverage their CRM, social media etc.

Aug 19 newsletter hits the right bases:
- Ticking clock on price reduction
- Atmosphere
- Supporters' village
- Meet the players
- Fifita
- New kit

Don’t agree with that sorry. Ospreys SHOULD be a sell out or near sellout whenever it’s played or whoever the team are. Unfortunately it isn’t. The irony of people who complained at no crowds during covid. 


Posted By: hartson11
Date Posted: 21 August 2022 at 4:18pm
Originally posted by Rob o'r Bont Rob o'r Bont wrote:

I don't think as a country we've bounced back from Covid yet.  We've just come back from a holiday in Brittany, a holiday that was planned for 2020 but for obvious reasons had to be postponed.  Just an observation but there is only one Ferry per day running from Plymouth to Roscoff at the moment as opposed to two per day before Covid - and even these Ferries are not anywhere near as full as they used to be.  The beaches were half empty as well. 

I think the enthusiasm for things has been dampened down in everyone and in all walks of life - it's going to take a monumental shift to get things moving properly again.

PS - I don't think working from home is helping either - we've become very lethargic as a nation (a generalisation there I know)

Disagree on the working from home - as an example, since starting working from home I go to more events than ever, including rugby, as it's great to get out of the house at the weekend.


Posted By: Rob o'r Bont
Date Posted: 21 August 2022 at 4:35pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Rob o'r Bont Rob o'r Bont wrote:

I don't think as a country we've bounced back from Covid yet.  We've just come back from a holiday in Brittany, a holiday that was planned for 2020 but for obvious reasons had to be postponed.  Just an observation but there is only one Ferry per day running from Plymouth to Roscoff at the moment as opposed to two per day before Covid - and even these Ferries are not anywhere near as full as they used to be.  The beaches were half empty as well. 

I think the enthusiasm for things has been dampened down in everyone and in all walks of life - it's going to take a monumental shift to get things moving properly again.

PS - I don't think working from home is helping either - we've become very lethargic as a nation (a generalisation there I know)
Hope you had a good time and the weather was good. Did you have any storms to avoid while there?
It was the best holiday weather ever to be fair and no thunderstorms. Brittany can be hit or miss but this years it could have been the Cote Azure.  

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Posted By: Rob o'r Bont
Date Posted: 21 August 2022 at 4:36pm
Originally posted by hartson11 hartson11 wrote:

Originally posted by Rob o'r Bont Rob o'r Bont wrote:

I don't think as a country we've bounced back from Covid yet.  We've just come back from a holiday in Brittany, a holiday that was planned for 2020 but for obvious reasons had to be postponed.  Just an observation but there is only one Ferry per day running from Plymouth to Roscoff at the moment as opposed to two per day before Covid - and even these Ferries are not anywhere near as full as they used to be.  The beaches were half empty as well. 

I think the enthusiasm for things has been dampened down in everyone and in all walks of life - it's going to take a monumental shift to get things moving properly again.

PS - I don't think working from home is helping either - we've become very lethargic as a nation (a generalisation there I know)

Disagree on the working from home - as an example, since starting working from home I go to more events than ever, including rugby, as it's great to get out of the house at the weekend.
Sounds like working from home has energised you. Smile

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Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 28 August 2022 at 1:03pm
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by pillory pillory wrote:

Because Ospreys is game #1, the fixture loses any sort of in-season marketing advantage Scarlets would otherwise have had:

Eg.
- TV and media promotion (noting the fixture date, providing build-up).
- In-stadium promotion.
- Success from any winning streak / tangible chance at winning silverware.
- Perception this fixture would otherwise be festive.

They'll virtually have to move the bums to seats themselves. It will be a test of how well they are able to leverage their CRM, social media etc.

Aug 19 newsletter hits the right bases:
- Ticking clock on price reduction
- Atmosphere
- Supporters' village
- Meet the players
- Fifita
- New kit

Don’t agree with that sorry. Ospreys SHOULD be a sell out or near sellout whenever it’s played or whoever the team are. Unfortunately it isn’t. The irony of people who complained at no crowds during covid. 
The marketing for this game is almost non-existent unfortunately. I expect the club will cite a lack of ££ and personnel to do any more, but it's pretty dire. A few infrequent posts on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter just won't do these days.

To be fair, none of the Welsh teams, including the WRU are any better. But there's an opportunity here for us to steal a march on the competition. With the right expertise, £10k can go a long way in digital marketing.

I've occasionally used targeted Facebook ads in work, and because I am trying to fill 10-20 spaces, I rarely spend more than £10. The effect is usually instantly noticeable. (It's a bit of a dilemma because I think FB is the root of a lot of evil in the world Confused)

But if they were to get someone self-employed with expertise in for a short term deal I think they would be shocked how effective it can be. They've already cut the prices, but I doubt many people will realise that unless they were about to book.


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Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 28 August 2022 at 1:11pm
For Example. 
Scarlets tweeted 6 times on Friday, and nothing since.
Only one of those tweets was about the game. The others were, understandably, about the kit.

No one on social media duty on the weekend? You can schedule auto posts!!

They should be tweeting 20-30 times per day on each subject. With different graphics and wording. The chances of seeing a single tweet even from someone you follow are quite small.


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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 28 August 2022 at 1:49pm
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

For Example. 
Scarlets tweeted 6 times on Friday, and nothing since.
Only one of those tweets was about the game. The others were, understandably, about the kit.

No one on social media duty on the weekend? You can schedule auto posts!!

They should be tweeting 20-30 times per day on each subject. With different graphics and wording. The chances of seeing a single tweet even from someone you follow are quite small.
 
Your right 👍 All they need is a sensible young person to keep the SM going like Dan Inkin did for us at the RFC ( still does it in fact but he’s now working full time in the family business) 


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Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 28 August 2022 at 2:06pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

For Example. 
Scarlets tweeted 6 times on Friday, and nothing since.
Only one of those tweets was about the game. The others were, understandably, about the kit.

No one on social media duty on the weekend? You can schedule auto posts!!

They should be tweeting 20-30 times per day on each subject. With different graphics and wording. The chances of seeing a single tweet even from someone you follow are quite small.
 
Your right 👍 All they need is a sensible young person to keep the SM going like Dan Inkin did for us at the RFC ( still does it in fact but he’s now working full time in the family business) 
Respectfully disagree Dai. They're a £12m business, that needs to be £13m business. They need to invest in a proper strategy. Analyse results etc. I reckon they could put 1000 on the average gate, which is 11,000 tickets, which is probably £100k in revenue including match day spend. 

Also, if we get bigger, noisier crowds we look more attractive as an entertainment event. It generates positivity and will undoubtedly fuel other things like sponsorship.


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Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 28 August 2022 at 2:08pm
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

For Example. 
Scarlets tweeted 6 times on Friday, and nothing since.
Only one of those tweets was about the game. The others were, understandably, about the kit.

No one on social media duty on the weekend? You can schedule auto posts!!

They should be tweeting 20-30 times per day on each subject. With different graphics and wording. The chances of seeing a single tweet even from someone you follow are quite small.

If they tweeted that amount of times I’d block them. 😂


Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 28 August 2022 at 2:28pm
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

For Example. 
Scarlets tweeted 6 times on Friday, and nothing since.
Only one of those tweets was about the game. The others were, understandably, about the kit.

No one on social media duty on the weekend? You can schedule auto posts!!

They should be tweeting 20-30 times per day on each subject. With different graphics and wording. The chances of seeing a single tweet even from someone you follow are quite small.

If they tweeted that amount of times I’d block them. 😂
Haha! Quite!
I don't think you'd see many of them unless you were on twitter all day though.
Twitter isn't the best example, and it's promoted, micro-targeted tweets that they should use (probably more effective on FB), so they show up on people's timelines who don't follow them.

You can target by postcode, by interest, by age, gender, all sorts of stuff. I did something like 7 days of targeted advertising on FB for £10. I was projected a reach of 200,000 people and I was looking to get 10 takers for this particular campaign.


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Posted By: Kentexile
Date Posted: 28 August 2022 at 5:10pm
I have had a load of messages via a range of platforms and would go but clashes with my next cancer treatment which is my only excuse looking forward to getting the all clear to go to the Treviso game


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 28 August 2022 at 5:13pm
Originally posted by Kentexile Kentexile wrote:

I have had a load of messages via a range of platforms and would go but clashes with my next cancer treatment which is my only excuse looking forward to getting the all clear to go to the Treviso game
Wishing you all the very best of luck.

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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 29 August 2022 at 1:11am
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

For Example. 
Scarlets tweeted 6 times on Friday, and nothing since.
Only one of those tweets was about the game. The others were, understandably, about the kit.

No one on social media duty on the weekend? You can schedule auto posts!!

They should be tweeting 20-30 times per day on each subject. With different graphics and wording. The chances of seeing a single tweet even from someone you follow are quite small.
 
Your right 👍 All they need is a sensible young person to keep the SM going like Dan Inkin did for us at the RFC ( still does it in fact but he’s now working full time in the family business) 
Respectfully disagree Dai. They're a £12m business, that needs to be £13m business. They need to invest in a proper strategy. Analyse results etc. I reckon they could put 1000 on the average gate, which is 11,000 tickets, which is probably £100k in revenue including match day spend. 

Also, if we get bigger, noisier crowds we look more attractive as an entertainment event. It generates positivity and will undoubtedly fuel other things like sponsorship.
Yes I don’t see my rustic comments as a panacea but just about us at least doing something all the time to push the club . We should be a lot more professional at it but seem to get so many changes in staff we have no build up or continuity. You would have thought that a stronger marketing/ media strategy might even be something to work together on within the PRB 4 regions to learn off each in maximising customer hits  

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Posted By: hartson11
Date Posted: 29 August 2022 at 1:46pm
I've been keeping an eye on the seat map, seems we've sold roughly 75 tickets for the Ospreys game in the last 7 days. Deeply worrying.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 29 August 2022 at 2:14pm
Are the welsh test players going to be avialble for selectoon?  Lack of communication is a problem in welsh rugby from top to bottom


Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 29 August 2022 at 3:19pm
Don’t think the players that toured this Summer have done much club training yet. I’d be pleasantly surprised if they were included for the Os game. 

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Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 29 August 2022 at 4:47pm
The usual excuses of expensive tickets and rubbish kick off times have well and truly been put to bed. There’ll always be some kind of excuse for people not going though. 


Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 29 August 2022 at 5:45pm
Perhaps reading Wales online and various Osprey social media people don’t think it’s worth turning up. They are going to be world beaters this season apparently. 



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Posted By: Kentexile
Date Posted: 29 August 2022 at 5:58pm
Thank you EO appreciated - haven’t booked my flights to Italy yet but fingers crossed!


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 29 August 2022 at 8:20pm
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

The usual excuses of expensive tickets and rubbish kick off times have well and truly been put to bed. There’ll always be some kind of excuse for people not going though. 
You still live just a hop skip and a jump from the parc?you have no idea why people aren't going to games so change the ****** record as you are becoming one of the biggest trolls on the forum.


Posted By: hartson11
Date Posted: 30 August 2022 at 10:13am
Strangely, a number of standing tickets have gone back available on sale this morning. Must be returns or tickets that were being held back. Tickets sale situation is even worse than I thought.

Wish I had an easy answer but I feel its gone beyond poor marketing now. 

Maybe we should look at something like ST holders bringing a friend for a quid, or an offer of that nature. Only a short term fix and wouldn’t help the balance sheet, but it would look better than a 4/5k attendance for our supposed biggest game of the season. If Scarlets put on a good performance it may at least get people engaged for the rest of the season and entice people back.


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 30 August 2022 at 2:24pm
I understand that Scarlets have not sent any tickets over the Loughor yet. If they are as tardy as some of our fans seem to be in buying tickets then the sooner they go over the better and to help build momentum on a big derby game!

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Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 30 August 2022 at 4:06pm
Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

The usual excuses of expensive tickets and rubbish kick off times have well and truly been put to bed. There’ll always be some kind of excuse for people not going though. 
You still live just a hop skip and a jump from the parc?you have no idea why people aren't going to games so change the ****** record as you are becoming one of the biggest trolls on the forum.

I appreciate people live all over west wales but for this season the kick off times are ideal compared to other seasons. People’s main grudge is Friday games and late Saturday kick offs. Most this year are tidy Saturday times. 

No trolling just stating a fact which people seem afraid to avoid at times. 


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 02 September 2022 at 9:03pm
Just received an email at 20:52 from the Scarlets, which had everything I needed to know ahead of the friendly against Bristol tonight. It included kick off times, a link to buy tickets & what time the gates open. 

Seriously!!!


Posted By: Mogwen
Date Posted: 02 September 2022 at 9:05pm
With all due respect, that email could have been sent yesterday but not delivered until now. It happens.

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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 02 September 2022 at 9:08pm
Did everyone else receive the email now?


Posted By: Kentexile
Date Posted: 02 September 2022 at 9:17pm
Yes at 20.52 today


Posted By: ynysddurfc
Date Posted: 02 September 2022 at 9:31pm
Nothing on the next fixtures sign as you drive into Llanelli from the M4 to promote tonight's game or any upcoming games. Poor basic marketing which is free.


Posted By: Brainfart
Date Posted: 03 September 2022 at 8:38pm
Perhaps Scarlets should take a leaf out of Cardiff's book. They've a billboard featuring Sanjay and Taloupie near the Brynglas tunnels in Newport. Welcoming everyone to Wales. 


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 03 September 2022 at 8:45pm
Originally posted by Brainfart Brainfart wrote:

Perhaps Scarlets should take a leaf out of Cardiff's book. They've a billboard featuring Sanjay and Taloupie near the Brynglas tunnels in Newport. Welcoming everyone to Wales. 
Plenty of slow moving traffic to notice that.

We don’t have the same bottleneck with captive audience.

Is it a traditional billboard or an electronic one and what is the message? 


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Posted By: Dic Penderyn
Date Posted: 03 September 2022 at 8:51pm
Originally posted by Brainfart Brainfart wrote:

Perhaps Scarlets should take a leaf out of Cardiff's book. They've a billboard featuring Sanjay and Taloupie near the Brynglas tunnels in Newport. Welcoming everyone to Wales. 


Very apt....Croeso i Gymru,lle mae'r Saes yn dod i farw,
A mae chwaraewyr rygbi'n dod i ymddeol.


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 03 September 2022 at 8:56pm
Originally posted by Dic Penderyn Dic Penderyn wrote:

Originally posted by Brainfart Brainfart wrote:

Perhaps Scarlets should take a leaf out of Cardiff's book. They've a billboard featuring Sanjay and Taloupie near the Brynglas tunnels in Newport. Welcoming everyone to Wales. 


Very apt....Croeso i Gymru,lle mae'r Saes yn dod i farw,
A mae chwaraewyr rygbi yn dod i ymddeol.
Wit writ large.

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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 03 September 2022 at 9:08pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Dic Penderyn Dic Penderyn wrote:

Originally posted by Brainfart Brainfart wrote:

Perhaps Scarlets should take a leaf out of Cardiff's book. They've a billboard featuring Sanjay and Taloupie near the Brynglas tunnels in Newport. Welcoming everyone to Wales. 


Very apt....Croeso i Gymru,lle mae'r Saes yn dod i farw,
A mae chwaraewyr rygbi yn dod i ymddeol.
Wit writ large.

 Sadly the first roundabout just over the Loughor bridge is an abysmal scruffy mess - embarrassing welcome to Carmarthenshire and Llanelli. The Scarlets posts roundabout has at least seen the old Stradey posts repainted ( I was involved in facilitating this ) as  it was a mess- but again the rough mowing of the grass around the posts is very poor and that job is a Carmarthenshire County Council job. Very poor support for a major sporting entity in West Wales . Inept 


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Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 03 September 2022 at 9:36pm
I liked the new scoreboards and the advertising of matches on the sideboards. 


Posted By: Brainfart
Date Posted: 04 September 2022 at 12:03am
Is it a traditional billboard or an electronic one and what is the message? 
[/QUOTE]
Here we go, made me giggle. 
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/cardiff-cause-stir-buying-huge-24915692" rel="nofollow - https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/cardiff-cause-stir-buying-huge-24915692


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 04 September 2022 at 8:36am
Originally posted by Brainfart Brainfart wrote:

Is it a traditional billboard or an electronic one and what is the message? 
Here we go, made me giggle. 
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/cardiff-cause-stir-buying-huge-24915692" rel="nofollow - https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/cardiff-cause-stir-buying-huge-24915692
[/QUOTE]Thanks for that.

I recall the building. Niche Independent Financial Advisers, I believe occupy it and I’d have thought they’d not be pleased about having their own brand name covered up. 


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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 04 September 2022 at 8:52am
If i was the dragons i’d do the same in places like ponty and the valleys to annoy tge bluesWink


Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 04 September 2022 at 11:28am
The billboard was a great idea and garnered plenty of attention! Good on them.

See how many pages of this "we're so poor at marketing" thread for reference!!


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Posted By: Brainfart
Date Posted: 04 September 2022 at 11:51am
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

The billboard was a great idea and garnered plenty of attention! Good on them.

See how many pages of this "we're so poor at marketing" thread for reference!!
Yes, with stunts like this, there's no such thing as bad publicity. Worked a treat. 


Posted By: hartson11
Date Posted: 04 September 2022 at 12:33pm
Lovely bit of trolling from Cardiff.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 9:08am

Received this morning via e-mail. Says it all really!!!!!!


SATURDAY | DYDD SADWRN

02.09.22 KO | CG 19:00


We have all the information you need both on and off the field for today's BKT URC fixture against Ospreys.






Posted By: scarletabroad
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 9:24am
I had to look twice


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 9:50am
The picture had the right date and time on. The text below is as above…..

All very rushed.


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Posted By: Brainfart
Date Posted: 18 September 2022 at 11:10am
People complaining of the stadium experience today. Warm drinks, food running out before half time, an awful announcer and no program. Marketing can't fix that. 


Posted By: greypower1
Date Posted: 18 September 2022 at 11:39am
Originally posted by Brainfart Brainfart wrote:

People complaining of the stadium experience today. Warm drinks, food running out before half time, an awful announcer and no program. Marketing can't fix that. 

Must be extremely difficult to employ casual staff for catering when you have such a disjointed season and can only afford to pay minimum wage.
Glad I don’t  have to organise it.
We are not based in a rich area so charging more to enable better staffing arrangements would not work.  I can't  think of an easy solution, maybe  vending machines for food and beer?


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Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 18 September 2022 at 1:09pm
Originally posted by Brainfart Brainfart wrote:

People complaining of the stadium experience today. Warm drinks, food running out before half time, an awful announcer and no program. Marketing can't fix that. 
Drinks were fine for me, in the Barn, in the Felinfoel truck and in the South stand. We turned over a lot of money yesterday, but probably lost some due to the length of queues at half time too. Difficult one


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Posted By: EMGM
Date Posted: 18 September 2022 at 3:12pm
Don't know what they are doing in South Stand. The choice of beers were Guiness..Lager or bottle of Felinfoel IPA. No John Smith's and when staff were asked apparently not likely to change!!!


Posted By: N14
Date Posted: 18 September 2022 at 4:39pm
Yes we were shocked to be told at the bar just before half-time that there was no hot food left. Very very poor. That issue wasn’t a lack of staffing but that they ran out - poor planning, and we can hardly complain about finances when we’re prepared to lose revenue so needlessly.


Posted By: N14
Date Posted: 18 September 2022 at 10:18pm
Also on the subject of marketing, I was trying to price up a season ticket for a mate this afternoon. There is an adults option and a young adults option with absolutely no indication to be found about what the age limit is for a 'young adult.' How are you expected just to know this? Is a young adult between age 18-20? 25? Anyone under 30? 


Posted By: scarletsrules
Date Posted: 18 September 2022 at 11:23pm
Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

Yes we were shocked to be told at the bar just before half-time that there was no hot food left. Very very poor. That issue wasn’t a lack of staffing but that they ran out - poor planning, and we can hardly complain about finances when we’re prepared to lose revenue so needlessly.


To be fair to the Scarlets if they based their supply of hot food etc on what the expected crowd was to be then theres no wonder they run out, ticket sales for this game were extremely poor and only really started picking up from thursday afternoon.

We cant afford to be throwing away stock etc by over ordering


Posted By: gnasher1975
Date Posted: 19 September 2022 at 8:28am
[QUOTE=N14]Yes we were shocked to be told at the bar just before half-time that there was no hot food left. Very very poor. That issue wasn’t a lack of staffing but that they ran out - poor planning, and we can hardly complain about finances when we’re prepared to lose revenue so needlessly.[/QUOTE

Was this at the bar or one of the few hot food stations along the concourse?]


Posted By: N14
Date Posted: 19 September 2022 at 10:34am
It was in the North stand concourse


Posted By: gnasher1975
Date Posted: 19 September 2022 at 12:33pm
At one of the bars or one of the dedicated food stalls


Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 19 September 2022 at 2:33pm
Saves food waste but still rather unacceptable. 


Posted By: N14
Date Posted: 19 September 2022 at 2:45pm
Originally posted by gnasher1975 gnasher1975 wrote:

At one of the bars or one of the dedicated food stalls

Food stall I guess? They have some which serve drinks and also things like sweets etc. Then they have others (which we went to) which serve hot food - chips with curry and various other toppings etc. We were told at one of those that they didn’t have any hot food left in the north


Posted By: Seagultaf
Date Posted: 19 September 2022 at 4:40pm
Anyone know what the attendance was on Saturday, I cant find anything online?



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