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Topic: Team for Munster
Posted By: gorau
Subject: Team for Munster
Date Posted: 26 February 2023 at 5:58pm
Here's my team to face Munster. 
15 - Johnny McNicholl
14 - Steff Evans
13 - Joe Roberts
12 - Jonathan Davies (if he's not fit then Ioan at 12)
11 - Ryan Conbeer
10 - Sam Costelow 
9 - Gareth Davies
8 - Sione Kalamafoni 
7 - Dan Davis
6 - Vaea Fifita
5 - Morgan Jones
4 - Sam Lousi
3 - Sam Wainwright
2 - Shaun Evans
1 - Kelmsley Matthias
 
Bench
16 - Daf Hughes / Taylor Davies
17 - Steff Thomas
18 - Javan Sebastien
19 - Aaron Shingler / Jac Price / Ben Williams 
20 - Josh McCloud / Carwyn Tuipolotu 
21 - Dane Blacker
22 - Dan Jones
23 - Ioan Nicholas / Eddie James / Corey Baldwin / Tom Rogers


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Posted By: Tony Clifton
Date Posted: 26 February 2023 at 6:55pm
Eddie James if Foxy isn’t fit. I like Ioan but he’s not a 12 at all. Might as well push on with Eddie there and see what he can offer, he’s the long term 12 if you ask me, I don’t think JBR can stay fit.


Posted By: Owen111
Date Posted: 26 February 2023 at 8:38pm
Whats the easiest way to get to this game last minute plans ?


Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 26 February 2023 at 9:24pm

 
  Contact  Coracle Coaches , there was a small number of places available  last week .  Cost £279   based on two sharing , or £50 extra on single supplement .Staying at a 4 star hotel in Cork close to ground. 


Posted By: tim d
Date Posted: 27 February 2023 at 10:15am
Anyone going Friday should know there are only tickets left behind the posts. As it's the last game in cork this season they are expecting it to sell out.

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Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 27 February 2023 at 11:28am

  Not had tickets myself yet . Have you had yours Tim ?


Posted By: tim d
Date Posted: 27 February 2023 at 12:44pm
I had to phone Munster and get them. I tried online but was having problems with ticketmaster. I managed to get some seats. 

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Posted By: insidehalf
Date Posted: 27 February 2023 at 1:20pm
Mark, 8 of us in the North Terrace behind the posts, East terrace was coming up as full 2 weeks ago.


Posted By: tannerbankboy
Date Posted: 27 February 2023 at 3:18pm
Originally posted by tim d tim d wrote:

Anyone going Friday should know there are only tickets left behind the posts. As it's the last game in cork this season they are expecting it to sell out.
That's no surprise as the ground only holds 8,000.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 27 February 2023 at 4:24pm
"Cardiff will benefit from the services of Rhys Carre, Dillon Lewis and Teddy Williams for their match against Ulster on Saturday evening. The Dragons have Leon Brown, Bradley Roberts and Aaron Wainwright back in their ranks to take on Connacht, while Rhys Davies and Keiran Williams return for the Ospreys against Benetton. The Scarlets will not be getting any players released from the Wales camp."


Posted By: Mugwuffin
Date Posted: 27 February 2023 at 4:31pm
Why have they released Carre and not Wyn Jones? Carre has been in the matchday 23 for every match so far. Wyn didn’t make it last week or in week 1. 


Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 27 February 2023 at 4:39pm

   Thanks Mark !  A mystery why Wyn  his not released .


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 27 February 2023 at 5:21pm
I'm guessing we didn't ask for anyone.


Posted By: crj89
Date Posted: 27 February 2023 at 5:32pm
No disruption with everyone knowing their roles suits the upcoming fixtures in my eyes.

Only Wyn Jones makes an improvement from the fringe players that the WRU would likely release. Not much in it with Costelow and Patchell, and I know who I’d prefer in the current situation.


Posted By: Mugwuffin
Date Posted: 27 February 2023 at 5:48pm
Originally posted by crj89 crj89 wrote:

No disruption with everyone knowing their roles suits the upcoming fixtures in my eyes.

Only Wyn Jones makes an improvement from the fringe players that the WRU would likely release. Not much in it with Costelow and Patchell, and I know who I’d prefer in the current situation.
It’d be nice to have the option of Patchell coming off the bench though. 


Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 27 February 2023 at 5:48pm
Knowing how often Dwayne uses the word “consistency”, I expect Will is right and we didn’t request anyone. 
Considering we already have Jonny W, Josh Mac and Tom Rogers to add to the mix, I’m not really concerned about who Gatland releases, tbh


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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 27 February 2023 at 7:35pm
Does that indicate that the players are not asked for because they are not in next year's plans...ken retiring ,patchel off elsewhere , Wyn off to France 


Posted By: surfing-mtber
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 10:27am
According to the BBC, players have been releasesd for this weekend by Wales, except...

'However, Scarlets will have none of their Wales contingent available at Munster on Friday night.'


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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 10:54am
I think Wil may have a valid point. In all honesty which of the 5 Scarlets with the Wales squad would make a difference. You have a winning team who probably played their best rugby of the season. You also have, it appears, Samson, Josh & Johnny Williams closing in on comebacks & certainly training with the group.

Lets honestly look at it objectively with absolutely no malice intended towards the International 5. Ken looks worn out from the responsibilities of this Welsh team and negotiations. Young Shaun Evans is full of energy & commitment to the cause whilst being dodgy at throwing ( as Ken is ) & an absolute dog at the breakdown. Wyn has very little gametime & Mathias is progressing nicely both at set piece and around the field. Hardy is behind both Cawdor & Blacker - yes thats my opinion but also Dwayne's bearing in mind recent selections. Patchell has started to find his better form but again now lacks minutes. Costelow is playing well as he has done most of the season. Halfpenny, for me, is the one I would miss the most with his goalkicking and defensive solidity but to win in Cork we are going to need the creativity & adventure that JMac & Steff Evans bring.

So in summation in an ideal world I would probably have Ken & Patchell on the bench at best. 


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 10:56am
I am not looking for a season defining away win on Friday just more of the same improvements in defence & discipline. Lets give them nothing and make them work for their points. We need to be bold and attack to stay in the fight. A losing bonus point would make me smile for sure. 


Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 11:08am
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

I am not looking for a season defining away win on Friday just more of the same improvements in defence & discipline. Let’s give them nothing and make them work for their points. We need to be bold and attack to stay in the fight. A losing bonus point would make me smile for sure. 
GPR be more positive this could be the defining match of the season, a win in Cork is within our capability and I expect us to get a bonus point. Please 
I agree that we will not be missing any of our internationals apart from Wyn he is a quality operator and would improve most teams. 
Let’s run them ragged with our youngsters to the fore. 


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Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 11:23am
To have someone of Wyn Jones quality,  either to start or come off bench is massive. 
No comparison,  with Stef Thomas.
Likewise,  Patchell,  unless,  Gatland  intends to start him against  the Italians,  why the hell hasn't  he been released. 
The guy needs games, and although I feotbaaDah did well,in the SH against  , Patch offers somthing extra.

Against a side as uncompromising  as Munster, therse 
are the small margins,  which can can possibly  define success.
I think its madness  the way  the squad is organised,  with players sitting  on their hands.
I suppose why should we be surprised with anything to to with Wales or WRU



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I stood yer on tanner bank


Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 11:25am
Should  read Dan Johes above-named...bloody predicted  text againConfused

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I stood yer on tanner bank


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 11:55am
Wyn of previous seasons I would agree but tell me when Wyn performed at that level. Dwayne has selected Steff Thomas ahead of him before. 


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 12:01pm
Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

I am not looking for a season defining away win on Friday just more of the same improvements in defence & discipline. Let’s give them nothing and make them work for their points. We need to be bold and attack to stay in the fight. A losing bonus point would make me smile for sure. 
GPR be more positive this could be the defining match of the season, a win in Cork is within our capability and I expect us to get a bonus point. Please 
I agree that we will not be missing any of our internationals apart from Wyn he is a quality operator and would improve most teams. 
Let’s run them ragged with our youngsters to the fore. 

Why - nobody has been more pleased than I to see us starting to play well. i discount the European games to date but our URC games in January/Feb culminating in two excellent home wins against the Bulls & Edinburgh have taken us to a level that we have not been at this season. 

Having said that this game is in Cork against a team who put 58 points on the Ospreys last time out. For sure a very weakened Ospreys but nevertheless....... For me to think twice about which way this game is going to go equates to a hell of shift in my opinions. Give them a tough game, sneek a point or win preferably and return home uninjured that will do me. We potentially have 3 massive games in April which are the games we need to peak for. 


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 12:08pm
It's Cork not Thomond ...we can do em and yes it is a real tester...but those thoughts have been posted many times on here and this year we done it...im.bloody excited. 

On another note...when we were fantastic in Europe there were comments of taking the easy route with weaker teams, my thoughts and they still hold true, to be the best you have to beat the best out there....so we have the hardest run in to this season....excellent bring it on.




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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 12:12pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

I am not looking for a season defining away win on Friday just more of the same improvements in defence & discipline. Let’s give them nothing and make them work for their points. We need to be bold and attack to stay in the fight. A losing bonus point would make me smile for sure. 
GPR be more positive this could be the defining match of the season, a win in Cork is within our capability and I expect us to get a bonus point. Please 
I agree that we will not be missing any of our internationals apart from Wyn he is a quality operator and would improve most teams. 
Let’s run them ragged with our youngsters to the fore. 

Why - nobody has been more pleased than I to see us starting to play well. i discount the European games to date but our URC games in January/Feb culminating in two excellent home wins against the Bulls & Edinburgh have taken us to a level that we have not been at this season. 

Having said that this game is in Cork against a team who put 58 points on the Ospreys last time out. For sure a very weakened Ospreys but nevertheless....... For me to think twice about which way this game is going to go equates to a hell of shift in my opinions. Give them a tough game, sneek a point or win preferably and return home uninjured that will do me. We potentially have 3 massive games in April which are the games we need to peak for. 

The Iconic region, the one true region, the most successful region getting hammered in Cork, supplying all the current Welsh 15 ...I don't believe it.






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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 12:13pm
Me too 
We need to show the world that rugby is being run by idiots in Cardiff but down west we still have a plan with competent people in charge 

Gorllewin yw'r gorau ...eto 


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 12:19pm
Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Me too 
We need to show the world that rugby is being run by idiots in Cardiff but down west we still have a plan with competent people in charge 

Gorllewin yw'r gorau ...eto 

Your best post this year Oracle....thats the spirit Men of the West ffs we are the Scarlets with supporters and players with true hearts and fire of the true Welsh people....playing rugby that is known throughout the World and respected, the last Welsh side to down the All Blacks and the best players this Nation can provide in a massive Stadium at its Capital city, cannot surpass that.....if you want to beat the all blacks come down West and ask.

We are the Scarlets the biggest heartbeat in Wales.




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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 12:21pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Wyn of previous seasons I would agree but tell me when Wyn performed at that level. Dwayne has selected Steff Thomas ahead of him before. 

Wyn's issues obviously  have linked to his ongoing injury problems.
Must have been assessed both by Peel, and at national level.
Apart from his scrummaging  skill, he also has the ability  to win turnovers, twice, in his last scarlets  match. 
He has come through  an international  match, so no arguments against  match fitness. 
In comparison  Stef is a decent hardworking  squad player, and the depth that sides like Munster  possess,  we need  everything  we can at our disposal. 



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Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 12:24pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

I am not looking for a season defining away win on Friday just more of the same improvements in defence & discipline. Lets give them nothing and make them work for their points. We need to be bold and attack to stay in the fight. A losing bonus point would make me smile for sure. 

I am....an away win is the requirement...no losing bonus points...but bonus point win...we cab do it belief and mental preparation to do the extraordinary and unexpected is what we are.....its what we are GPR.





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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 12:28pm
Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

I am not looking for a season defining away win on Friday just more of the same improvements in defence & discipline. Let’s give them nothing and make them work for their points. We need to be bold and attack to stay in the fight. A losing bonus point would make me smile for sure. 
GPR be more positive this could be the defining match of the season, a win in Cork is within our capability and I expect us to get a bonus point. Please 
I agree that we will not be missing any of our internationals apart from Wyn he is a quality operator and would improve most teams. 
Let’s run them ragged with our youngsters to the fore. 

Well said. Top post.




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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: Maple
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 1:42pm
What happened to Lasana (sorry about the spelling) ?

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Posted By: Tony Clifton
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 2:15pm
Originally posted by Maple Maple wrote:

What happened to Lasana (sorry about the spelling) ?
Good question. On recent form, Davis is undroppable! He’s looking very good.


Posted By: Seagultaf
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 3:06pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Wyn of previous seasons I would agree but tell me when Wyn performed at that level. Dwayne has selected Steff Thomas ahead of him before. 

Wyn gave Zander Fagerson a tough time in the scums in Murrayfield, probably the only part of the game that Wales looks to have an edge.


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 4:11pm
Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Does that indicate that the players are not asked for because they are not in next year's plans...ken retiring ,patchel off elsewhere , Wyn off to France 

Good point.

On another note why not believe in the current 15.




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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 7:06pm
Jonny W, Macleod and Tom Rogers available.


Posted By: Dai Guevara
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 7:11pm
Jonny Who, I presume?


Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 7:46pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Jonny W, Macleod and Tom Rogers available.
Good news 


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She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 8:52am
Ok armed with the above news from Wil I would go with the following 23 :-

15. Jmac 14. Steff Evans 13. Roberts 12. JBR 11. Conbeer 10. Costelow 9. Cawdor
1. Mathias 2. Shaun 3. Wainwright 4. Louisi 5. Morgan Jones 6. Fifita 7. Dan Davis 8. Sione

16. Taylor 17. Steff Thomas 18. Javan/O'Connor 19. Carwyn 20. Josh 21. Blacker 22. Dan 23. Eddie James.

Both Tom Rogers & Ioan are unlucky - I just feel Eddie & JBR give us good physicality in the 10/12 channel which Munster favour & Steff can cover 15 if needed. Hopefully we come through unscathed & that Samson will be pushing hard for the bench at least for the Sharks game. 


Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 10:10am
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Ok armed with the above news from Wil I would go with the following 23 :-

15. Jmac 14. Steff Evans 13. Roberts 12. JBR 11. Conbeer 10. Costelow 9. Cawdor
1. Mathias 2. Shaun 3. Wainwright 4. Louisi 5. Morgan Jones 6. Fifita 7. Dan Davis 8. Sione

16. Taylor 17. Steff Thomas 18. Javan/O'Connor 19. Carwyn 20. Josh 21. Blacker 22. Dan 23. Eddie James.

Both Tom Rogers & Ioan are unlucky - I just feel Eddie & JBR give us good physicality in the 10/12 channel which Munster favour & Steff can cover 15 if needed. Hopefully we come through unscathed & that Samson will be pushing hard for the bench at least for the Sharks game. 
 Can’t argue with that side wish Patchell and Wyn had been released by that car crash that is team Wales.


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She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 3:19pm
Clap
Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Ok armed with the above news from Wil I would go with the following 23 :-

15. Jmac 14. Steff Evans 13. Roberts 12. JBR 11. Conbeer 10. Costelow 9. Cawdor
1. Mathias 2. Shaun 3. Wainwright 4. Louisi 5. Morgan Jones 6. Fifita 7. Dan Davis 8. Sione

16. Taylor 17. Steff Thomas 18. Javan/O'Connor 19. Carwyn 20. Josh 21. Blacker 22. Dan 23. Eddie James.

Both Tom Rogers & Ioan are unlucky - I just feel Eddie & JBR give us good physicality in the 10/12 channel which Munster favour & Steff can cover 15 if needed. Hopefully we come through unscathed & that Samson will be pushing hard for the bench at least for the Sharks game. 
 Can’t argue with that side wish Patchell and Wyn had been released by that car crash that is team Wales.

ClapClapClap




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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"



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