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Topic: RIP Andy Hill
Posted By: 157cb
Subject: RIP Andy Hill
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 10:36am

  Sad to here of the passing of Andy Hill 😢 another one of the 9-3  legends !!! One of  Wales finest players never to be fully capped .



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Posted By: Mugwuffin
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 10:40am
311 tries in 453 matches. That’s some record.

RIP


Posted By: John
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 10:53am
Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

311 tries in 453 matches. That’s some record.

RIP

And a great goal kicker too. Sad to hear of his death. 


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 10:53am
Very sad news rip


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 10:59am
He was just a constant for us. A constant in the team, try scorer, kicker.

No fuss, he was an all for the shirt type player.

His try record will never be surpassed.

RIP and condolences to his family.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 11:01am
Excellent clubman & player. RIP. 


Posted By: cymraes
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 11:23am
My childhood hero. RIP Andy. 



Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 11:24am
One of my heroes growing up in seventies sad news indeed. 

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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 11:31am
If he was born a decade later he would have had a bucket full of caps ..R.I.P



Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 11:37am
Oh no, of all the players that day he was one that stuck in my memory.

In 1972 on that grey dank day a team of 15 stood tall and withstood a battering and thuggery to deliver the last Welsh win against the formidable New Zealand. 

Roger Davies, JJ Williams, Roy Bergiers, Ray Gravell, Andy Hill, Phil Bennett, Chico Hopkins, Tony Crocker, Roy Thomas, Barry Llewellyn, Delme Thomas Capt, Derek Quinnell, Tommy David, Hefin Jenkins, Gareth Jenkins.

People band names and superlatives about players today as if its appropriate in this throw away society. But this team were as Aber posted yesterday "standing on the shoulders of Giants."

But this team, THIS TEAM....THESE GUYS, did Llanelly proud and played like real heroes in a time when financial rewards were not the driving motivators...but playing for 20,000 of their neighbours family and friends. In a Town of 50,000 most of us were all there, to watch history that may never be repeated, little did we know how history would cocoon this masterpiece of brilliance, captured in song, in film and smiles of those that were there.

As I've stated so many times it was not my sport, football mad I was , so this game was alien to me. But what grabbed my young heart and soul was being surrounded by my townsfolk , my friends in school, the vastness of the crowd, the singing, the roar and noise of the crowd was like hearing an orchestral symphony blasting into my ears, the noise, oh the roar, was the greatest emotional feeling that stirs the soul......this never leaves you...ever.

And there on the slopping green field were fifteen players in Scarlet and in the distance players in black, looking menacing and mean to me. 
And it kicked off and the noise, the noise.

I remember Bergiers scoring his try after charging down a clearance by All blacks Lin Colling after Benny hit the crossbar from a penalty into play.....Benny kicking the ball over the posts and I remember players being tackled and trambled over, the ball being passed by Chico and the players fighting and holding their own.

But I remember Andy Hill, for me he looked like a football player, elegant and somehow not getting involved in the rough stuff, I thought then I'd like to play where he was and he could kick. Wonderful.

What a player....although that Scarlet side was filled with true Giants, I loved watching Andy, I could be him and I wanted to, what a player, he played 453 matches over 12 years for the Scarlets and amassed 2, 604 points....incredible when you work it out ......he was quick, he was one of our best with 311 tries.....he truly was one of the great Scarlet players .

He kicked a penalty on that day in 1972 which I remember thinking I wish I could kick like that and I spent the rest of my young life watching Andy doing what he did best,  scoring tries and thumping that ball so high and far, he was and will always be one of my Scarlet hero's. 

My deepest condolences to his family and friends and to all who know him personally. 

For me at the beginning of this post I wrote oh no, because that's what I said when I heard he had passed, a piece of my history just left today and I'm cut deep by it.

Memories of events in life never leave us because they are so monumental in their power and stature that picture frames are locked deep inside our thoughts and our own personal journey through time.

Today right now I see a dank October day , a green sloping pitch, 20,000 Welsh people and a superstar in Scarlet running, he was Andy Hill, 

" If I have seen further it is by standing on the Shoulders of Giants"

And he was a true giant..... run free Sir.




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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: insidehalf
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 11:47am
Great player, great Scarlet and a hell of a nice bloke, had time for everybody. RIP Andy.


Posted By: Gayle Matths
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 11:50am
Wonderful player RIP Andy.



Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 11:57am
Part of an era we will never see again 


Posted By: mark in sydney
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 12:27pm
Sad news, even being so far away from Llanelli I think of my childhood team of the 70s i watched on the wall in front of the tanner bank … Andy was a constant in that side … he was always consistent .. consistently good that is ..and would have had a bucket full of Welsh caps in another era 

There were those who said he was only in the side for his goal kicking, which was tremendously accurate and the round the corner style became popular after years of toe first kicking…but his try scoring, I used to love the  mid week floodlight alliance games with no conversions he held his own is a backline that could put on 10 tries on any opposition in a game 



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Posted By: Sir Duckling Tuft
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 12:39pm
Devastated to hear of the passing of the legendary andy hill
He must surely have been the most under rated low keyed superstar ever...His record is extraordinary
Does anyone have any single footage of an interview with the great man? Its unbelievable to think a man who broke every record had such a low profile and no footage. I assume he enjoyed the quiet life
RIP Andy and diolch


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Posted By: turkishrebel
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 12:41pm
deepest condolences to andys family. great man who will be sadly missed

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Once a Scarlet, always a Scarlet!


Posted By: gaffer
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 12:48pm
Sad news indeed. A cornerstone of the 70s team. 

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Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 1:40pm
Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

Oh no, of all the players that day he was one that stuck in my memory.

In 1972 on that grey dank day a team of 15 stood tall and withstood a battering and thuggery to deliver the last Welsh win against the formidable New Zealand. 

Roger Davies, JJ Williams, Roy Bergiers, Ray Gravell, Andy Hill, Phil Bennett, Chico Hopkins, Tony Crocker, Roy Thomas, Barry Llewellyn, Delme Thomas Capt, Derek Quinnell, Tommy David, Hefin Jenkins, Gareth Jenkins.

People band names and superlatives about players today as if its appropriate in this throw away society. But this team were as Aber posted yesterday "standing on the shoulders of Giants."

But this team, THIS TEAM....THESE GUYS, did Llanelly proud and played like real heroes in a time when financial rewards were not the driving motivators...but playing for 20,000 of their neighbours family and friends. In a Town of 50,000 most of us were all there, to watch history that may never be repeated, little did we know how history would cocoon this masterpiece of brilliance, captured in song, in film and smiles of those that were there.

As I've stated so many times it was not my sport, football mad I was , so this game was alien to me. But what grabbed my young heart and soul was being surrounded by my townsfolk , my friends in school, the vastness of the crowd, the singing, the roar and noise of the crowd was like hearing an orchestral symphony blasting into my ears, the noise, oh the roar, was the greatest emotional feeling that stirs the soul......this never leaves you...ever.

And there on the slopping green field were fifteen players in Scarlet and in the distance players in black, looking menacing and mean to me. 
And it kicked off and the noise, the noise.

I remember Bergiers scoring his try after charging down a clearance by All blacks Lin Colling after Benny hit the crossbar from a penalty into play.....Benny kicking the ball over the posts and I remember players being tackled and trambled over, the ball being passed by Chico and the players fighting and holding their own.

But I remember Andy Hill, for me he looked like a football player, elegant and somehow not getting involved in the rough stuff, I thought then I'd like to play where he was and he could kick. Wonderful.

What a player....although that Scarlet side was filled with true Giants, I loved watching Andy, I could be him and I wanted to, what a player, he played 453 matches over 12 years for the Scarlets and amassed 2, 604 points....incredible when you work it out ......he was quick, he was one of our best with 311 tries.....he truly was one of the great Scarlet players .

He kicked a penalty on that day in 1972 which I remember thinking I wish I could kick like that and I spent the rest of my young life watching Andy doing what he did best,  scoring tries and thumping that ball so high and far, he was and will always be one of my Scarlet hero's. 

My deepest condolences to his family and friends and to all who know him personally. 

For me at the beginning of this post I wrote oh no, because that's what I said when I heard he had passed, a piece of my history just left today and I'm cut deep by it.

Memories of events in life never leave us because they are so monumental in their power and stature that picture frames are locked deep inside our thoughts and our own personal journey through time.

Today right now I see a dank October day , a green sloping pitch, 20,000 Welsh people and a superstar in Scarlet running, he was Andy Hill, 

" If I have seen further it is by standing on the Shoulders of Giants"

And he was a true giant..... run free Sir.



A lovely post - thanks for that.

I saw Andy play quite a few times, and - oddly, maybe - or perhaps it reflects the particular games I attended - I remember him mainly for his astonishing accuracy in goal-kicking, rather than the equally impressive try-scoring stats.  He was an amazing goal kicker for that era, given the type of ball and so on. Exceptionally unlucky to have never won a cap - as others have said, nowadays with more tests, substitutions and squads of 23 he'd have had 50+ easily. 

RIP Andy - a very sad day.


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Posted By: Boisbach
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 1:41pm
Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

Oh no, of all the players that day he was one that stuck in my memory.

In 1972 on that grey dank day a team of 15 stood tall and withstood a battering and thuggery to deliver the last Welsh win against the formidable New Zealand. 

Roger Davies, JJ Williams, Roy Bergiers, Ray Gravell, Andy Hill, Phil Bennett, Chico Hopkins, Tony Crocker, Roy Thomas, Barry Llewellyn, Delme Thomas Capt, Derek Quinnell, Tommy David, Hefin Jenkins, Gareth Jenkins.

People band names and superlatives about players today as if its appropriate in this throw away society. But this team were as Aber posted yesterday "standing on the shoulders of Giants."

But this team, THIS TEAM....THESE GUYS, did Llanelly proud and played like real heroes in a time when financial rewards were not the driving motivators...but playing for 20,000 of their neighbours family and friends. In a Town of 50,000 most of us were all there, to watch history that may never be repeated, little did we know how history would cocoon this masterpiece of brilliance, captured in song, in film and smiles of those that were there.

As I've stated so many times it was not my sport, football mad I was , so this game was alien to me. But what grabbed my young heart and soul was being surrounded by my townsfolk , my friends in school, the vastness of the crowd, the singing, the roar and noise of the crowd was like hearing an orchestral symphony blasting into my ears, the noise, oh the roar, was the greatest emotional feeling that stirs the soul......this never leaves you...ever.

And there on the slopping green field were fifteen players in Scarlet and in the distance players in black, looking menacing and mean to me. 
And it kicked off and the noise, the noise.

I remember Bergiers scoring his try after charging down a clearance by All blacks Lin Colling after Benny hit the crossbar from a penalty into play.....Benny kicking the ball over the posts and I remember players being tackled and trambled over, the ball being passed by Chico and the players fighting and holding their own.

But I remember Andy Hill, for me he looked like a football player, elegant and somehow not getting involved in the rough stuff, I thought then I'd like to play where he was and he could kick. Wonderful.

What a player....although that Scarlet side was filled with true Giants, I loved watching Andy, I could be him and I wanted to, what a player, he played 453 matches over 12 years for the Scarlets and amassed 2, 604 points....incredible when you work it out ......he was quick, he was one of our best with 311 tries.....he truly was one of the great Scarlet players .

He kicked a penalty on that day in 1972 which I remember thinking I wish I could kick like that and I spent the rest of my young life watching Andy doing what he did best,  scoring tries and thumping that ball so high and far, he was and will always be one of my Scarlet hero's. 

My deepest condolences to his family and friends and to all who know him personally. 

For me at the beginning of this post I wrote oh no, because that's what I said when I heard he had passed, a piece of my history just left today and I'm cut deep by it.

Memories of events in life never leave us because they are so monumental in their power and stature that picture frames are locked deep inside our thoughts and our own personal journey through time.

Today right now I see a dank October day , a green sloping pitch, 20,000 Welsh people and a superstar in Scarlet running, he was Andy Hill, 

" If I have seen further it is by standing on the Shoulders of Giants"

And he was a true giant..... run free Sir.

👏👏👏


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 2:07pm
What is truly gratifying is the online messages which are filled with affection for this truly lovely man from all corners in Wales. On a really sad day, that made this old man smile.




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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: ScarletBear
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 2:17pm
Another hero goes. Makes me so sad.

Of that legendary team, Benny, Selwyn and Andy were my favourites. Very much missed.


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Scarlets before Wales


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 2:31pm
the older we get the more of our heroes pass RIP Andy


Posted By: Seagultaf
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 3:52pm
Great player and one of my all time hero's. I remember his competition with JJ for who could score the most tries. Also remember his incredibly efficient round the corner kicking style.
I used to see him quite often when he lived close to my in laws in Loughor, lovely man and absolute Scarlet legend.


Posted By: tim d
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 5:09pm
Despite all the superstars we had at the time Andy was my hero. He used to call in our house to pick up the keys to the gym in stradey. As a young boy I would call him Mr Hill but he always said it's andy. Even though he didn't bother much with the Scarlets after he retired it meant a lot to me that he was a bearer at my dad's funeral. One of the greatest to wear our famous jersey. Rip  mr. Hill

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Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 10 March 2023 at 5:50pm
Sadly we have to say goodbye to another  of our  Scarlet  heroes.
Andy Hill will go down as one of the greatest to play for Wales.

I was a schoolboy,  when I first had the honour  of seeing Andy playing, in the late sixties, and he was certainly  one of my heroes. 
Time and again his sheer speed would see him in at the corner, for what have been for others, an improbable try.
311 tries ,says it all, and it will never be bettered.
His goalkicking, particularly  from distance,  was incredible and who will forget that epic penalty  in  the epic 9-3 win against  the All Blacks.
To top it all ,he was a lovely modest guy.
After one game,  at the car park at stradey, I caught up with him for an autograph. My grandfather  and I loved Andy ,and  in the game we had just seen against  Harlequins,  he had scored  3 tries. He was embarrassed by our adoration,and when we said we had never seen him play better, he simply replied " did I ?"
RIP Andy Hill you have left us with such fond memories. 
Our kindest thoughts,  go to his family,  at this sad time.

(Thanks also must go to Lofty , for such a fulsome,  and wonderful  tribute)


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Posted By: spirit of 72
Date Posted: 11 March 2023 at 10:02am
It's a cry which has never left me. Llanelli awarded a penalty, maybe in their own half.  "Give it to Andy!"

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Fairplay


Posted By: maldwyn
Date Posted: 11 March 2023 at 10:27am
Andy Hill was one of my favourite players back in the day. Let’s not forget all those points were scored with the ball weighing half a ton. RIP Andy.

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Up the bum no harm done.


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 11 March 2023 at 10:58am
Originally posted by maldwyn maldwyn wrote:

Andy Hill was one of my favourite players back in the day. Let’s not forget all those points were scored with the ball weighing half a ton. RIP Andy.


Great seeing you post Maldwyn.ClapClapClap


Spot on that ball was a breeze block....boy could he kick it and posters have commented about his kicking style.
He truly was one of my absolute favourites at the Scarlets.  He was one of many that started this love affair for all things Scarlet. 





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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 11 March 2023 at 10:59am
Originally posted by spirit of 72 spirit of 72 wrote:

It's a cry which has never left me. Llanelli awarded a penalty, maybe in their own half.  "Give it to Andy!"

Brilliant ClapClapClap




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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: tannerbankboy
Date Posted: 12 March 2023 at 3:38pm
Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

Great player and one of my all time hero's. I remember his competition with JJ for who could score the most tries. Also remember his incredibly efficient round the corner kicking style.
I used to see him quite often when he lived close to my in laws in Loughor, lovely man and absolute Scarlet legend.
He had more than a round the corner licking style.  He ended up as the bendiest run up of anyone I've seen.  He also made a fine mound of turf to hold the ball up high.


Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 12 March 2023 at 4:00pm
Originally posted by scarletpimp scarletpimp wrote:

Sadly we have to say goodbye to another  of our  Scarlet  heroes.
Andy Hill will go down as one of the greatest to play for Wales.

I was a schoolboy,  when I first had the honour  of seeing Andy playing, in the late sixties, and he was certainly  one of my heroes. 
Time and again his sheer speed would see him in at the corner, for what have been for others, an improbable try.
311 tries ,says it all, and it will never be bettered.
His goalkicking, particularly  from distance,  was incredible and who will forget that epic penalty  in  the epic 9-3 win against  the All Blacks.
To top it all ,he was a lovely modest guy.
After one game,  at the car park at stradey, I caught up with him for an autograph. My grandfather  and I loved Andy ,and  in the game we had just seen against  Harlequins,  he had scored  3 tries. He was embarrassed by our adoration,and when we said we had never seen him play better, he simply replied " did I ?"
RIP Andy Hill you have left us with such fond memories. 
Our kindest thoughts,  go to his family,  at this sad time.

(Thanks also must go to Lofty , for such a fulsome,  and wonderful  tribute)
class Clap


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Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 12 March 2023 at 4:05pm
Originally posted by maldwyn maldwyn wrote:

Andy Hill was one of my favourite players back in the day. Let’s not forget all those points were scored with the ball weighing half a ton. RIP Andy.

Love to have seen him play live ...and lest we forget only 3 point tries, they should index link his points tally to 5 point tries, thats another 622 points to push him past 3000 Thumbs Up
 




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Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 12 March 2023 at 5:47pm
Originally posted by tannerbankboy tannerbankboy wrote:

Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

Great player and one of my all time hero's. I remember his competition with JJ for who could score the most tries. Also remember his incredibly efficient round the corner kicking style.
I used to see him quite often when he lived close to my in laws in Loughor, lovely man and absolute Scarlet legend.
He had more than a round the corner licking style.  He ended up as the bendiest run up of anyone I've seen.  He also made a fine mound of turf to hold the ball up high.

Brilliant forgot about the mounds od turf and sand .....kicking tees seem to have been around ages.....thankyou for this made me smile and remember. 




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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 12 March 2023 at 5:48pm
Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Originally posted by maldwyn maldwyn wrote:

Andy Hill was one of my favourite players back in the day. Let’s not forget all those points were scored with the ball weighing half a ton. RIP Andy.

Love to have seen him play live ...and lest we forget only 3 point tries, they should index link his points tally to 5 point tries, thats another 622 points to push him past 3000 Thumbs Up
 



Absolutely spot on Roy ClapClapClap


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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: maldwyn
Date Posted: 12 March 2023 at 9:42pm
Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Originally posted by maldwyn maldwyn wrote:

Andy Hill was one of my favourite players back in the day. Let’s not forget all those points were scored with the ball weighing half a ton. RIP Andy.

Love to have seen him play live ...and lest we forget only 3 point tries, they should index link his points tally to 5 point tries, thats another 622 points to push him past 3000 Thumbs Up
 



Absolutely spot on Roy ClapClapClap
Mind boggling statistics Royston 👏 

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Up the bum no harm done.


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 12 March 2023 at 10:34pm
Originally posted by maldwyn maldwyn wrote:

Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Originally posted by maldwyn maldwyn wrote:

Andy Hill was one of my favourite players back in the day. Let’s not forget all those points were scored with the ball weighing half a ton. RIP Andy.

Love to have seen him play live ...and lest we forget only 3 point tries, they should index link his points tally to 5 point tries, thats another 622 points to push him past 3000 Thumbs Up
 



Absolutely spot on Roy ClapClapClap
Mind boggling statistics Royston 👏 

Genuinely wished more could have seen him play...proper shy Welshman....the best of us.





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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: Sir Duckling Tuft
Date Posted: 13 March 2023 at 12:19am
Im sure there's a load of footage locked up in BBC vaults 

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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 13 March 2023 at 2:38am
Yes we all thought that he deserved Welsh caps. Powerful kicker who gave the ball a heck of a thump.He had muscular sprinter legs ( Andy Fenby many years later reminded me of him in that sense) and a prolific scorer who was very popular with us young fans. I don’t think he was seen much if at all in the new ground. He was a very shy man who probably preferred to avoid the limelight that comes with players from that great era for Scarlets. One of our unsung heroes.RIP Andy


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 13 March 2023 at 12:26pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Yes we all thought that he deserved Welsh caps. Powerful kicker who gave the ball a heck of a thump.He had muscular sprinter legs ( Andy Fenby many years later reminded me of him in that sense) and a prolific scorer who was very popular with us young fans. I don’t think he was seen much if at all in the new ground. He was a very shy man who probably preferred to avoid the limelight that comes with players from that great era for Scarlets. One of our unsung heroes.RIP Andy

Thanks for this Andy Fenby ....brilliant. 




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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"



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