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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Speedy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 October 2021 at 1:33pm
Originally posted by Boisbach Boisbach wrote:

Originally posted by gorau gorau wrote:

The last time we competed in the league Patchell was 10 and we had a full season with him in that position. We desperately need him back. Also, last time we competed in the league, we lost to Leinster in the final, Cubby was in the side.

I hope these 2 are back soon. Sounds promising with Patchell, who we haven't seen in a Scarlets shirt now for a year. Every year since the final v Leinster when we were beaten we've struggled, and every season since then Patchell has hardly played for us. I really think we need him back asap. 

I have doubts about Cubby and if we will ever see him on the pitch ever again. I hope we have McCloud back as soon as possible.

Don’t expect too much from Patchell or the other 10’s, when we are getting battered and out muscled up front.



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Munster have confirmed that RG Snyman has re-ruptured his cruciate ligament that kept him out for a long period previously.

Sad news, never nice to see the opposition players get injured.
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Why cant we change course when things are failing so badly? Most welsh players have 20/20 vision in retrospect, they all the right answers about what should have happened in the post match interviews but do nothing to change things during the match ? Mindless

If plan A is failing carry on with plan A then talk about how we should have tried plans b, c, d, e, f, g afterwards. Pathetic.
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Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Why cant we change course when things are failing so badly? Most welsh players have 20/20 vision in retrospect, they all the right answers about what should have happened in the post match interviews but do nothing to change things during the match ? Mindless

If plan A is failing carry on with plan A then talk about how we should have tried plans b, c, d, e, f, g afterwards. Pathetic.
Did we have a plan A?
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Originally posted by EJPT EJPT wrote:

I didn’t see the game as I was at the NFL but I have it recorded. I assume I have nothing to gain by watching it from the score and the comments on here…

Unless you enjoy watching players falling off one on one tackles, leaving the French doors wide open at the ruck, countless times, inviting Munster to just run straight through it.
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Plan A was was to perform badly in every facet of the game and lul Munster into a false sense of security with a narrow half time lead - they didn't fall for it!
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We were like this in the first few seasons under Pivac, remember numerous people calling for his head.
Ride the wave, give Dwayne time iesu Mawr. 
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most of our internationals treat the scarlets as a training platform for wales,the shirt should mean more to them.
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There were over 11 internationals and 4 British lions playing for us yesterday. I think it’s fair to say people expected a bit better. Even Munster supporters thought Munster had a weak side out. 
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Originally posted by scarletsbeno1 scarletsbeno1 wrote:

We were like this in the first few seasons under Pivac, remember numerous people calling for his head.
Ride the wave, give Dwayne time iesu Mawr. 
nobody knocking dwayne but there are far too many players turning up and not playing for the region/coach and far more importantly the shirt and that really pisses me off.
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by scarletsbeno1 scarletsbeno1 wrote:

We were like this in the first few seasons under Pivac, remember numerous people calling for his head.
Ride the wave, give Dwayne time iesu Mawr. 
nobody knocking dwayne but there are far too many players turning up and not playing for the region/coach and far more importantly the shirt and that really pisses me off.

.Some of these boys can seem to be very concerned about growing their own 'brand'.I looked at a Linked In profile of a player,which proclaimed that he was"always interested in new challenges".....it does make you think.The biggest problem,I think,is that the system could encourage a certain detachment-the WRU pay 80%....what's the old adage about no dog serving 2 masters?It's a mess,and needs to change.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mr Ian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 October 2021 at 7:22pm
Our Destiny Is close linked with Llanelli and other feeder clubs for development players. They been stopped and was a disgrace for us too..
I feel we Lost our pathway, It s difficoult to step up from a development team go a winning team. Here nobody has the Solution, but I m sure we re in good hands and the players firstly feel the frustation too...

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Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Why cant we change course when things are failing so badly? Most welsh players have 20/20 vision in retrospect, they all the right answers about what should have happened in the post match interviews but do nothing to change things during the match ? Mindless

If plan A is failing carry on with plan A then talk about how we should have tried plans b, c, d, e, f, g afterwards. Pathetic.

Did we have a plan A?


Plan A is the default plan. Get quick ball and give it to our immensely talented backs who will find a way to score enough tries to win the game.
It begins to become unstuck when the opposition win more possession, and slow down most of what we have. Added to this if they employ an effective blitz defence very few of our backs will get the ball in any space but will still try to pass off-load leaving their team-mates pretty far up nant cachu. We don't have anyone who can carry unless kalamfoni has succeeded in reaching the scene and for some reason no-one will try to chip or grubber, and even if they did few have the pace and determination to successfully follow up. In this respect teams like Munster with young, fit, fast, enthusiastic players have a significant advantage, and we must start finding counter tactics.
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I'm not even sure their blitz defence was that good.  In the opening 20 minutes their backline stood back and let us come on to them.  We just did lots of silly mistakes.
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Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Why cant we change course when things are failing so badly? Most welsh players have 20/20 vision in retrospect, they all the right answers about what should have happened in the post match interviews but do nothing to change things during the match ? Mindless

If plan A is failing carry on with plan A then talk about how we should have tried plans b, c, d, e, f, g afterwards. Pathetic.

Did we have a plan A?


Plan A is the default plan. Get quick ball and give it to our immensely talented backs who will find a way to score enough tries to win the game.
It begins to become unstuck when the opposition win more possession, and slow down most of what we have. Added to this if they employ an effective blitz defence very few of our backs will get the ball in any space but will still try to pass off-load leaving their team-mates pretty far up nant cachu. We don't have anyone who can carry unless kalamfoni has succeeded in reaching the scene and for some reason no-one will try to chip or grubber, and even if they did few have the pace and determination to successfully follow up. In this respect teams like Munster with young, fit, fast, enthusiastic players have a significant advantage, and we must start finding counter tactics.

I was being cynical. It just seemed that we ran around hoping someone would produce something special. Thats not even a plan A for me.
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