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Originally posted by gorau gorau wrote:

Wales Under 20s lost by 50 points tonight - 67 -17. Bug changes are needed. The mess starts with the WRU board. Dark and difficult times are ahead but over the last few months watching the Scarlets I have seen hope with our youngsters coming through. 
The WRU need to go, as simple as that.
One positive note from a Scarlets perspective, the speed and quality of service from Harri Williams. Hope we can retain both our young 9s.
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They also look a lot bigger physically. Not much we can do about genuine size 
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If they are planning to refresh the Premiership, now is the time to create a proper A league that would support and feed the regions with more suitable players. 4 regional A teams, a North Wales Select (RGC) and a Valleys team (Merthyr/Ponty etc) Then below that you have the clubs feeding in and so on. It will never happen because the funding model will never be agreed but its the sort of thing we need. Those teams could also play cross border comps against the English A teams in a cup perhaps.
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If it is to be a proper league underpinning the regions then there should be a strict salary cap which is policed properly.
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

If it is to be a proper league underpinning the regions then there should be a strict salary cap which is policed properly.


Great call. If your not affiliated to a region then it really should be just that. Random benefactors make the Prem an unstable place, actually, not just the Prem.

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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

If it is to be a proper league underpinning the regions then there should be a strict salary cap which is policed properly.
Also a salary floor. 
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Which should be zero. At the end of the day it's an amateur league.
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Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Which should be zero. At the end of the day it's an amateur league.
Sorry, I thought we were talking about the proposed 8 team league to provide a bridge between U18 and pro level. 
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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Seven countries in the URC?
  1. Wales
  2. RoI
  3. NI
  4. Italy
  5. Scott
  6. Ireland
  7. Ealing

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The WRU really need to hold their hands up and say that regardless of the governance changes they've failed miserable in many many other areas and the deal with the regions and governance changes are very much starting from an exceptionally low point.

Initially it won't be about catching other nations, it's about not falling even further behind and then once we've stabilised trying to catch up.

All the little things are a mess, the 18's women's and men's played yesterday but nothing about the scores until this morning for the men's, and there's still nothing for the women's. The WRU have only just confirmed the dates for all the community finals, the first one is less than a fortnight away, they should have been confirmed months ago to allow people to plan around them.

Wherever you look things need fixing.
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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Seven countries in the URC?
  1. Wales
  2. RoI
  3. NI
  4. Italy
  5. Scott
  6. Ireland
  7. Ealing

Is that Martin Anayi’s letter to Santa?

That's the realistic one, his original one probably has 10 countries.
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Originally posted by Gate12 Gate12 wrote:

The WRU really need to hold their hands up and say that regardless of the governance changes they've failed miserable in many many other areas and the deal with the regions and governance changes are very much starting from an exceptionally low point.

Initially it won't be about catching other nations, it's about not falling even further behind and then once we've stabilised trying to catch up.

All the little things are a mess, the 18's women's and men's played yesterday but nothing about the scores until this morning for the men's, and there's still nothing for the women's. The WRU have only just confirmed the dates for all the community finals, the first one is less than a fortnight away, they should have been confirmed months ago to allow people to plan around them.

Wherever you look things need fixing.

A total inept mess , I totally agree with you 101%
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Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Which should be zero. At the end of the day it's an amateur league.
Sorry, I thought we were talking about the proposed 8 team league to provide a bridge between U18 and pro level. 


Yep?
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Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

If it is to be a proper league underpinning the regions then there should be a strict salary cap which is policed properly.
Also a salary floor. 
Being really Tirydail here (sorry GPR) but what is a salary floor is it the opposite of a ceiling ???genuine question.
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

If it is to be a proper league underpinning the regions then there should be a strict salary cap which is policed properly.
Also a salary floor. 
Being really Tirydail here (sorry GPR) but what is a salary floor is it the opposite of a ceiling ???genuine question.
A floor is a minimum spend. I was just thinking that as we’d want this new league to be competitive you don’t want one team spending a pittance on their squad and getting smashed week in week out by the others. 
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Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

If it is to be a proper league underpinning the regions then there should be a strict salary cap which is policed properly.
Also a salary floor. 
Being really Tirydail here (sorry GPR) but what is a salary floor is it the opposite of a ceiling ???genuine question.
A floor is a minimum spend. I was just thinking that as we’d want this new league to be competitive you don’t want one team spending a pittance on their squad and getting smashed week in week out by the others. 
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