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 Posted: 21 March 2023 at 8:55pm |
 totallybiasedscarlet wrote:
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I totally agree , but the point I was making is the fact that there are people in the boats ...by just saying boats I feel it removes the human side of the equation ...We should be processing all claims and then reacting accordingly ..the only problem is that we have no way of returning a lot of people back to their country as we have burned all our bridges... Ironical if it's the right word but Braverman is now intending to send unattended children to Rwanda, which I think is abhorant , but for the 200 migrants being sent there we now in return have to accept 200 Rwandans back in return ...the selection of the people will be down Rwanda , so who knows what type of people they are ..and the tax payer is paying hundreds of millions of pounds ...disgusting on so many fronts |
but how do we processes all these back logged and new aslyum claims swiftly and fairly ?Where Do we process then?Where do we house people whose claims are being processed? What is the maximum number we can take per annum? How we deal with those whose claims are refused??We all agree the torys are failing but all labour seem to say on the matter is their system will be fairer. Yet noActual detail? It’s the same with their supporters, they seem loathe to give any actual answers. So come on oracle and co Give us some actual figures and solutions not just emotive soundbites.
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Let's see your answers first before we do your homework for you. |
so when asked for your ideas or your soliutions to the problems you refuse to answer? Hardly suggests you have answers or at least ones you are confident in putting on here |
Nice story. Tell it to Readers Digest. |
still no answers, so ill take that as confirmation you don’t have any. Glad we cleared that up
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Posted: 21 March 2023 at 9:03pm |
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You are such a strange Facist ...Let me explain , I have debated with you ....I mentioned you should have known your facts for your current viewpoint ...I mentioned that even though this country foolishly voted for brexit , we were still invited to stay in the Dublin accord , which we foolishly turned down .. I explained that 84% of all applications are accepted , the refusal to process them is just another example of the current government policy ... The money that private hotel owners are making because the government because of their process refusal . Rwanda is just a disgusting and pathetic attempt to try and appease the little Englander and their Facist views
So ....obviously the first thing to be fine is to rejoin the Dublin Accord , we need to sign up civil servants and train them to be able to process these applications , ideally in France , and ship these applicants over , safely . We need to stop the Rwanda nonsense . We need to get the new refugees into accomodation and then to work .. The numbers that could be given access ,is not an issue as we are so short of workers since brexit , there are thousands of jobs needing to be filled ....When we look at countries like Germany , Cyprus and Italy our intake is pretty pathetic ....so this nonsense about the country is to full is just rubbish |
Do other countries take in more then? Why risk their lives in an Avon inflatable when there's dozens of other countries? That's what I don't understand.
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Posted: 21 March 2023 at 9:04pm |
RR1972 wrote:
totallybiasedscarlet wrote:
RR1972 wrote:
totallybiasedscarlet wrote:
RR1972 wrote:
Oracle wrote:
I totally agree , but the point I was making is the fact that there are people in the boats ...by just saying boats I feel it removes the human side of the equation ...We should be processing all claims and then reacting accordingly ..the only problem is that we have no way of returning a lot of people back to their country as we have burned all our bridges... Ironical if it's the right word but Braverman is now intending to send unattended children to Rwanda, which I think is abhorant , but for the 200 migrants being sent there we now in return have to accept 200 Rwandans back in return ...the selection of the people will be down Rwanda , so who knows what type of people they are ..and the tax payer is paying hundreds of millions of pounds ...disgusting on so many fronts |
but how do we processes all these back logged and new aslyum claims swiftly and fairly ?Where Do we process then?Where do we house people whose claims are being processed? What is the maximum number we can take per annum? How we deal with those whose claims are refused??We all agree the torys are failing but all labour seem to say on the matter is their system will be fairer. Yet noActual detail? It’s the same with their supporters, they seem loathe to give any actual answers. So come on oracle and co Give us some actual figures and solutions not just emotive soundbites.
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Let's see your answers first before we do your homework for you. |
so when asked for your ideas or your soliutions to the problems you refuse to answer? Hardly suggests you have answers or at least ones you are confident in putting on here |
Nice story. Tell it to Readers Digest. |
still no answers, so ill take that as confirmation you don’t have any. Glad we cleared that up |
Where are yours? You have none. Glad we cleared that up.
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Posted: 21 March 2023 at 9:10pm |
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You are such a strange Facist ...Let me explain , I have debated with you ....I mentioned you should have known your facts for your current viewpoint ...I mentioned that even though this country foolishly voted for brexit , we were still invited to stay in the Dublin accord , which we foolishly turned down .. I explained that 84% of all applications are accepted , the refusal to process them is just another example of the current government policy ... The money that private hotel owners are making because the government because of their process refusal . Rwanda is just a disgusting and pathetic attempt to try and appease the little Englander and their Facist views
So ....obviously the first thing to be fine is to rejoin the Dublin Accord , we need to sign up civil servants and train them to be able to process these applications , ideally in France , and ship these applicants over , safely . We need to stop the Rwanda nonsense . We need to get the new refugees into accomodation and then to work .. The numbers that could be given access ,is not an issue as we are so short of workers since brexit , there are thousands of jobs needing to be filled ....When we look at countries like Germany , Cyprus and Italy our intake is pretty pathetic ....so this nonsense about the country is to full is just rubbish |
Do other countries take in more then? Why risk their lives in an Avon inflatable when there's dozens of other countries? That's what I don't understand. |
Might be worth asking? Or at least reading what people who have found themselves in those circumstances have had to say about it. Or people who work with them? I'm sure if you look you'll find out.
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Posted: 21 March 2023 at 9:13pm |
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You are such a strange Facist ...Let me explain , I have debated with you ....I mentioned you should have known your facts for your current viewpoint ...I mentioned that even though this country foolishly voted for brexit , we were still invited to stay in the Dublin accord , which we foolishly turned down .. I explained that 84% of all applications are accepted , the refusal to process them is just another example of the current government policy ... The money that private hotel owners are making because the government because of their process refusal . Rwanda is just a disgusting and pathetic attempt to try and appease the little Englander and their Facist views
So ....obviously the first thing to be fine is to rejoin the Dublin Accord , we need to sign up civil servants and train them to be able to process these applications , ideally in France , and ship these applicants over , safely . We need to stop the Rwanda nonsense . We need to get the new refugees into accomodation and then to work .. The numbers that could be given access ,is not an issue as we are so short of workers since brexit , there are thousands of jobs needing to be filled ....When we look at countries like Germany , Cyprus and Italy our intake is pretty pathetic ....so this nonsense about the country is to full is just rubbish |
some good ideas out of curio how long do you thiink itll take to interview recruit and train these civil servants and what haopens in the mean time?
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Posted: 21 March 2023 at 9:22pm |
SA14 wrote:
Oracle wrote:
You are such a strange Facist ...Let me explain , I have debated with you ....I mentioned you should have known your facts for your current viewpoint ...I mentioned that even though this country foolishly voted for brexit , we were still invited to stay in the Dublin accord , which we foolishly turned down .. I explained that 84% of all applications are accepted , the refusal to process them is just another example of the current government policy ... The money that private hotel owners are making because the government because of their process refusal . Rwanda is just a disgusting and pathetic attempt to try and appease the little Englander and their Facist views
So ....obviously the first thing to be fine is to rejoin the Dublin Accord , we need to sign up civil servants and train them to be able to process these applications , ideally in France , and ship these applicants over , safely . We need to stop the Rwanda nonsense . We need to get the new refugees into accomodation and then to work .. The numbers that could be given access ,is not an issue as we are so short of workers since brexit , there are thousands of jobs needing to be filled ....When we look at countries like Germany , Cyprus and Italy our intake is pretty pathetic ....so this nonsense about the country is to full is just rubbish |
Do other countries take in more then? Why risk their lives in an Avon inflatable when there's dozens of other countries? That's what I don't understand. |
They dont all want to come here , one of the major reasons they do is because of family living here and because the speak english ...because 200 years ago the british were raping and pillaging around the world and one of the first thing they did was make english the only language that was allowed ...They didnt want indigenous languages being spoken..(sounds familiar..Welsh knott)....over the years english remained the dominant language in these areas... Now a lot of these people still speak english , hence the attraction of the uk
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Posted: 21 March 2023 at 9:26pm |
RR1972 wrote:
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You are such a strange Facist ...Let me explain , I have debated with you ....I mentioned you should have known your facts for your current viewpoint ...I mentioned that even though this country foolishly voted for brexit , we were still invited to stay in the Dublin accord , which we foolishly turned down .. I explained that 84% of all applications are accepted , the refusal to process them is just another example of the current government policy ... The money that private hotel owners are making because the government because of their process refusal . Rwanda is just a disgusting and pathetic attempt to try and appease the little Englander and their Facist views
So ....obviously the first thing to be fine is to rejoin the Dublin Accord , we need to sign up civil servants and train them to be able to process these applications , ideally in France , and ship these applicants over , safely . We need to stop the Rwanda nonsense . We need to get the new refugees into accomodation and then to work .. The numbers that could be given access ,is not an issue as we are so short of workers since brexit , there are thousands of jobs needing to be filled ....When we look at countries like Germany , Cyprus and Italy our intake is pretty pathetic ....so this nonsense about the country is to full is just rubbish |
some good ideas out of curio how long do you thiink itll take to interview recruit and train these civil servants and what haopens in the mean time? |
Im not sure , but i have to ask what was the current goverments aims by reducing the civil services , when everyone knew they were needed...what did they think it was going to achieve and secondly as a tory supporter and voter , what do you think they were trying to achieve and was it one of the reasons you voted for them
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Posted: 21 March 2023 at 9:31pm |
I didn't know you had all the authority and executive power of the Government Oracle   Perhaps you'll be doing marriage counselling and conflict resolution soon. Heck, what other intractable problems can you solve? The answer is 42 - what's the question? Only certainty is that RR will demand more answers You must justify your Lefty beliefs! Submit to the god of old men's opinions at once!
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Posted: 21 March 2023 at 9:37pm |
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I didn't know you had all the authority and executive power of the Government Oracle Perhaps you'll be doing marriage counselling and conflict resolution soon. Heck, what other intractable problems can you solve? The answer is 42 - what's the question? Only certainty is that RR will demand more answers You must justify your Lefty beliefs! Submit to the god of old men's opinions at once! |
Well i know i have an advantage , my arguements will allways last longer than any right wing old mans prostate can last ...
Btw the answer might be 42 but the question was what is 9x5 ...there are sometimes too many gogalfechians left on the planet...now if you can follow that then i will say bye and thanks for all the fish
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Posted: 21 March 2023 at 9:41pm |
I think some of our posters here are Krikkit residents.
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Posted: 21 March 2023 at 9:50pm |
totallybiasedscarlet wrote:
RR1972 wrote:
totallybiasedscarlet wrote:
RR1972 wrote:
totallybiasedscarlet wrote:
RR1972 wrote:
Oracle wrote:
I totally agree , but the point I was making is the fact that there are people in the boats ...by just saying boats I feel it removes the human side of the equation ...We should be processing all claims and then reacting accordingly ..the only problem is that we have no way of returning a lot of people back to their country as we have burned all our bridges... Ironical if it's the right word but Braverman is now intending to send unattended children to Rwanda, which I think is abhorant , but for the 200 migrants being sent there we now in return have to accept 200 Rwandans back in return ...the selection of the people will be down Rwanda , so who knows what type of people they are ..and the tax payer is paying hundreds of millions of pounds ...disgusting on so many fronts |
but how do we processes all these back logged and new aslyum claims swiftly and fairly ?Where Do we process then?Where do we house people whose claims are being processed? What is the maximum number we can take per annum? How we deal with those whose claims are refused??We all agree the torys are failing but all labour seem to say on the matter is their system will be fairer. Yet noActual detail? It’s the same with their supporters, they seem loathe to give any actual answers. So come on oracle and co Give us some actual figures and solutions not just emotive soundbites.
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Let's see your answers first before we do your homework for you. |
so when asked for your ideas or your soliutions to the problems you refuse to answer? Hardly suggests you have answers or at least ones you are confident in putting on here |
Nice story. Tell it to Readers Digest. |
still no answers, so ill take that as confirmation you don’t have any. Glad we cleared that up |
Where are yours? You have none. Glad we cleared that up.
Pompous pr... |
still no answers just more abuse makes you sound very petulant, like the tine you declared you’d never post on this thread again
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Posted: 21 March 2023 at 9:51pm |
Moving on to other things ...Will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow at the commons select committee, and Johnson. He has admitted misleading the commons, but not knowingly ! The phrase I think is recklessly misleading...without deception. If you believe that, you will believe that Wales will win the WC.. Ironic that Johnson's mate Trump, is about to be arrested! Couldn't have have happened to a nicer guy!
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Posted: 21 March 2023 at 9:52pm |
RR1972 wrote:
totallybiasedscarlet wrote:
RR1972 wrote:
totallybiasedscarlet wrote:
RR1972 wrote:
totallybiasedscarlet wrote:
RR1972 wrote:
Oracle wrote:
I totally agree , but the point I was making is the fact that there are people in the boats ...by just saying boats I feel it removes the human side of the equation ...We should be processing all claims and then reacting accordingly ..the only problem is that we have no way of returning a lot of people back to their country as we have burned all our bridges... Ironical if it's the right word but Braverman is now intending to send unattended children to Rwanda, which I think is abhorant , but for the 200 migrants being sent there we now in return have to accept 200 Rwandans back in return ...the selection of the people will be down Rwanda , so who knows what type of people they are ..and the tax payer is paying hundreds of millions of pounds ...disgusting on so many fronts |
but how do we processes all these back logged and new aslyum claims swiftly and fairly ?Where Do we process then?Where do we house people whose claims are being processed? What is the maximum number we can take per annum? How we deal with those whose claims are refused??We all agree the torys are failing but all labour seem to say on the matter is their system will be fairer. Yet noActual detail? It’s the same with their supporters, they seem loathe to give any actual answers. So come on oracle and co Give us some actual figures and solutions not just emotive soundbites.
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Let's see your answers first before we do your homework for you. |
so when asked for your ideas or your soliutions to the problems you refuse to answer? Hardly suggests you have answers or at least ones you are confident in putting on here |
Nice story. Tell it to Readers Digest. |
still no answers, so ill take that as confirmation you don’t have any. Glad we cleared that up |
Where are yours? You have none. Glad we cleared that up.
Pompous pr... |
still no answers just more abuse makes you sound very petulant, like the tine you declared you’d never post on this thread again |
Well you havent answered me yet
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Posted: 21 March 2023 at 9:54pm |
enjoy your evening micheal
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Posted: 21 March 2023 at 9:54pm |
RR1972 wrote:
totallybiasedscarlet wrote:
RR1972 wrote:
totallybiasedscarlet wrote:
RR1972 wrote:
totallybiasedscarlet wrote:
RR1972 wrote:
Oracle wrote:
I totally agree , but the point I was making is the fact that there are people in the boats ...by just saying boats I feel it removes the human side of the equation ...We should be processing all claims and then reacting accordingly ..the only problem is that we have no way of returning a lot of people back to their country as we have burned all our bridges... Ironical if it's the right word but Braverman is now intending to send unattended children to Rwanda, which I think is abhorant , but for the 200 migrants being sent there we now in return have to accept 200 Rwandans back in return ...the selection of the people will be down Rwanda , so who knows what type of people they are ..and the tax payer is paying hundreds of millions of pounds ...disgusting on so many fronts |
but how do we processes all these back logged and new aslyum claims swiftly and fairly ?Where Do we process then?Where do we house people whose claims are being processed? What is the maximum number we can take per annum? How we deal with those whose claims are refused??We all agree the torys are failing but all labour seem to say on the matter is their system will be fairer. Yet noActual detail? It’s the same with their supporters, they seem loathe to give any actual answers. So come on oracle and co Give us some actual figures and solutions not just emotive soundbites.
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Let's see your answers first before we do your homework for you. |
so when asked for your ideas or your soliutions to the problems you refuse to answer? Hardly suggests you have answers or at least ones you are confident in putting on here |
Nice story. Tell it to Readers Digest. |
still no answers, so ill take that as confirmation you don’t have any. Glad we cleared that up |
Where are yours? You have none. Glad we cleared that up.
Pompous pr... |
still no answers just more abuse makes you sound very petulant, like the tine you declared you’d never post on this thread again |
Still wrong. Correct yourself. Bear in mind that what you spout makes you sound like a pompous oaf but there we are eh. Also ...
WHERE ARE YOUR ANSWERS RR?
Edited by totallybiasedscarlet - 21 March 2023 at 10:04pm
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