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It is my view point, bunch of killjoy daffties who acheived the square root of sd all apart from getting banged up  on a sunny bank holiday weekendWink. No doubt they are tweeting furiously on their i phones as we speak, maybe they should watch a documentary on cobalt mining, green revoultion indeed
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Another Ill thought out and illegal piece of legislation , have to feel sorry for the police who only had 2 days to understand a very poor written piece of legislation ... Embarrassing too, considering that the police and protesters have been into conversation for weeks regarding the dos and don'ts

Just listening to the lord's debate the immigration bill , unbelievable piece if Facist legislation 
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

It is my view point, bunch of killjoy daffties who acheived the square root of sd all apart from getting banged up  on a sunny bank holiday weekendWink. No doubt they are tweeting furiously on their i phones as we speak, maybe they should watch a documentary on cobalt mining, green revoultion indeed

Totally agree with your summation of the protesters RR. I also think the thousands of people who queued to watch/take part in the whole charade need to get lives but of course that is my take on things. Surely in a civilised democracy the police are there to protect fellow citizens not lock them up for having an opinion which is/may be contrary to the government view. 

Don't get me started on the ridiculous cost of the event. I am afraid the usual reasons given by the monarchists for trying to justify the civil list robbery of look at how much business the Royals bring to the Uk in terms of tourism etc is running a little weak at the moment. Would the tourism hike brought on by having a monarchy not be a small price to pay by said monarchy for being given through nothing other than birthright thousands of acres of prime British land at zero cost. Much is made of Charlie's green credentials which are strong I will admit but lets face it how many fellow posters on here could be green & successful if they were handed a 1000 acre farm free.
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245,000 pound taxpayers bill  paying  Boris Johnson cost for lawyers so far  when he is a millionaire just stinks why can,t he pay his own legal bill 

This country is rotten to the core 
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Well, well Adam Price has quit. Forget the tories the squeaky clean Plaid Cymru are rife with harassment, bullying and misogyny. No defending that. 
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Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Well, well Adam Price has quit. Forget the tories the squeaky clean Plaid Cymru are rife with harassment, bullying and misogyny. No defending that. 


The Nationalists , both in wales and Scotland are in "total meltdown".
On the face of recent polls, both North and South of the border, they both look to lose a fair number of seats in the next election, and it wouldn't surprise me if Plaid are left with no representation at Westminster .

Adam Price, just has not got a grip with the problems  in his party, almost in the same way, Jeremy Corbyn, did for Labour.

I had several friends , who were  Plaid members, and all have left.
They have been saying for a while, that things have got increasingly worse, and the has been a complete absence of strong leadership.
Seems a very sad state of affairs.
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I have a feeling that Yes Cymru will end up replacing plaid 
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Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Well, well Adam Price has quit. Forget the tories the squeaky clean Plaid Cymru are rife with harassment, bullying and misogyny. No defending that. 

SNP not exactly clean at the moment, either. Plaid sound horrible.
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Therein lies a deep seated problem not just in Welsh politics but British politics in general - absolute lack of leadership. Do we expect too much of our politicians. For sure its a very high focus position the higher up the ladder you go but surely a basic understanding of good manners, right & wrong, household budgeting & trust should not be too much to ask. 

I note a couple of decisions recently - Archbishop Welsby, speaking in the Lords yesterday, pulled no punches in his criticism of the Rwanda plan - calling it what it is - inhuman. The government have now backtracked on the plan to abolish thousands of EU laws on 31/12/2023 - of course it begs the question of why they thought that was a good idea in the first place. The answer probably lies with Boris again wanting to walk the walk of the tough guy PM who has put those frogs & krauts in their place.

When are leaders going to understand that the job is about diplomacy and deal making & showing & receiving respect as a trusted ally. In fairness to Sunak, admittedly from a very weak base, is starting to try to row back against the tide but they/we all know their time is up. 
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Did anyone see/hear an interview given by Piers Morgan about his time as Editor of the Daily Mirror with regard to phone hacking. I, by the way, am no great fan of Mr Morgan but he came up with one answer which had me rolling - trying to point out how something was utterly implausible he compared it to Donald Trump opening his mouth and the truth coming out - classic. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Therein lies a deep seated problem not just in Welsh politics but British politics in general - absolute lack of leadership. Do we expect too much of our politicians. For sure its a very high focus position the higher up the ladder you go but surely a basic understanding of good manners, right & wrong, household budgeting & trust should not be too much to ask. 

I note a couple of decisions recently - Archbishop Welsby, speaking in the Lords yesterday, pulled no punches in his criticism of the Rwanda plan - calling it what it is - inhuman. The government have now backtracked on the plan to abolish thousands of EU laws on 31/12/2023 - of course it begs the question of why they thought that was a good idea in the first place. The answer probably lies with Boris again wanting to walk the walk of the tough guy PM who has put those frogs & krauts in their place.

When are leaders going to understand that the job is about diplomacy and deal making & showing & receiving respect as a trusted ally. In fairness to Sunak, admittedly from a very weak base, is starting to try to row back against the tide but they/we all know their time is up. 

I believe that was "taking back control": a fundament of Brexit. The rest of your post I agree with.

I've also wondered whether we expect too much from politicians and particularly if the role of senior politicians is simply too much, having to hold together a political party, govern a department for the whole nation, engage with the media etc. Then again when you read that there were 56 MPs with sexual misconduct allegations against them last April (out of a total of 650 MPs, 8.6%. Disproportionately Conservative) you really think there's something inherently wrong with both the political party system and how our democracy functions if it is selecting for such individuals and even allowing them to succeed. 

It's all very grubby.
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Originally posted by dr_martinov dr_martinov wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Therein lies a deep seated problem not just in Welsh politics but British politics in general - absolute lack of leadership. Do we expect too much of our politicians. For sure its a very high focus position the higher up the ladder you go but surely a basic understanding of good manners, right & wrong, household budgeting & trust should not be too much to ask. 

I note a couple of decisions recently - Archbishop Welsby, speaking in the Lords yesterday, pulled no punches in his criticism of the Rwanda plan - calling it what it is - inhuman. The government have now backtracked on the plan to abolish thousands of EU laws on 31/12/2023 - of course it begs the question of why they thought that was a good idea in the first place. The answer probably lies with Boris again wanting to walk the walk of the tough guy PM who has put those frogs & krauts in their place.

When are leaders going to understand that the job is about diplomacy and deal making & showing & receiving respect as a trusted ally. In fairness to Sunak, admittedly from a very weak base, is starting to try to row back against the tide but they/we all know their time is up. 

I believe that was "taking back control": a fundament of Brexit. The rest of your post I agree with.

I've also wondered whether we expect too much from politicians and particularly if the role of senior politicians is simply too much, having to hold together a political party, govern a department for the whole nation, engage with the media etc. Then again when you read that there were 56 MPs with sexual misconduct allegations against them last April (out of a total of 650 MPs, 8.6%. Disproportionately Conservative) you really think there's something inherently wrong with both the political party system and how our democracy functions if it is selecting for such individuals and even allowing them to succeed. 

It's all very grubby.

Yes I am aware of the taking back control reasoning &, in principle, I totally agree. However when taking back control includes scrapping laws at a deadline when not enough resource has been allocated to discuss the implications with interested parties that is just shambolic. 

There can no argument that some of those laws enacted by the EU were extremely restrictive on British companies and their abilities to thrive and duly should have been cast aside but not before proper & fair consultation. 

What has now happened is that the government have been embarrassingly forced into a partial u turn by CEO's of some of our large corporations. Equally many of the laws were evidence of best working practice and should have just been given the nod into British law for the foreseeable future. However that sort of decision making requires some common sense & a cabinet that is joined up & working for the national good. 
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Watching the coronation I was surprised to see Drayford huddled into a corner in the exclusive seats of the Abbey. For a man whose drive is anti union against the Prince of wales and generally poopooing of English rule I thought it would have been a perfect time to decline the invitation to attend and highlight his moral reasoning as to why he didn’t want to. Perhaps the trough was to deep to climb out of
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Originally posted by scarletabroad scarletabroad wrote:

Watching the coronation I was surprised to see Drayford huddled into a corner in the exclusive seats of the Abbey. For a man whose drive is anti union against the Prince of wales and generally poopooing of English rule I thought it would have been a perfect time to decline the invitation to attend and highlight his moral reasoning as to why he didn’t want to. Perhaps the trough was to deep to climb out of

i guess he will use the same line of reasoning as the Sinn Fein President. They represent all their constituents and did not want personal opinion to get in the way of their duty.
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He just didn't want to be arrested by the stazi police 
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Drakeford took a freebie in the world cup to qatar with their shady hunan rights records now he’s there for another freebie at the coronation. Another champagne  socialist who will drop his orinciples like a hot potato.  Proper do as i say not do as i do merchants. The hypocrisy of the  regressive left is never far from the surface

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