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    Posted: 19 September 2021 at 9:02am
Have to say the Australian performances against South Africa, in particular yesterday's, rather shows how poor both the performances and coaching of the Lions were. Four tries by outside backs confirms that Ugo Monye's criticism of the lack of use of talented back 3 players was spot on. 

Think Gatland's tenure as Lions coach will now be probably over. Anyone else think Rassie has been very quiet lately. Boks have got some serious thinking to do ahead of two games against the All Blacks thats for sure. 
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

If curry and liam hadn’t made two really basic errors gatland goes down as the most succesful lions coach of all time. Small margins !!

Don't think any serious rugby supporter can question Gatland's credentials. However we will never know how that squad would have performed with a more attack minded coach. Tempo was a key word but we didn't really see much evidence of it. Also we saw no strike moves from set piece which totally failed to use the key attributes of DVM. Townsend is not excused from this dull coaching and time will tell if there was a difference in thinking between Gats and Townsend. 

The Lions did not look like an attacking team coached by Gregor - they did look very much like Gatland's Wales. Gatland has had a good run as Lions coach - my own feeling is that it should go to someone British or Irish. 

I wouldnt limit it to british or irish but at the very least they must be coaching in UK or Ireland. 
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Originally posted by hartson11 hartson11 wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by bills burr bills burr wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

If curry and liam hadn’t made two really basic errors gatland goes down as the most succesful lions coach of all time. Small margins !!

who picked them?
Oh come off it. He can’t control every players actions on the field. Both players are the best in their respective positions in Britain and Ireland. 

The best in their positions in B+I? Don’t let Scottish Rugby Twitter hear you say that.


Considering how much I normally like Scotland and most of the Scottish players, the Scottish twitter lions fans have really done their best to make me nostalgic for the tours where gatland picked only 2 to and they’d only play mid-week. 

Doesn’t matter where the supporters are from they’ll always be vocal about how there should be more players from their nation. 
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Originally posted by hartson11 hartson11 wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by bills burr bills burr wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

If curry and liam hadn’t made two really basic errors gatland goes down as the most succesful lions coach of all time. Small margins !!

who picked them?
Oh come off it. He can’t control every players actions on the field. Both players are the best in their respective positions in Britain and Ireland. 

The best in their positions in B+I? Don’t let Scottish Rugby Twitter hear you say that.


Considering how much I normally like Scotland and most of the Scottish players, the Scottish twitter lions fans have really done their best to make me nostalgic for the tours where gatland picked only 2 to and they’d only play mid-week. 
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I totally agree with you GPR, I respect Gatland, but also have a feeling of what may have been, this also goes for Wales. 

Edited by Dai38 - 12 August 2021 at 9:08am
Be careful when you pick up the stick.........IT MAY BE THE WRONG END!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

If curry and liam hadn’t made two really basic errors gatland goes down as the most succesful lions coach of all time. Small margins !!

Don't think any serious rugby supporter can question Gatland's credentials. However we will never know how that squad would have performed with a more attack minded coach. Tempo was a key word but we didn't really see much evidence of it. Also we saw no strike moves from set piece which totally failed to use the key attributes of DVM. Townsend is not excused from this dull coaching and time will tell if there was a difference in thinking between Gats and Townsend. 

The Lions did not look like an attacking team coached by Gregor - they did look very much like Gatland's Wales. Gatland has had a good run as Lions coach - my own feeling is that it should go to someone British or Irish. 
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by bills burr bills burr wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

If curry and liam hadn’t made two really basic errors gatland goes down as the most succesful lions coach of all time. Small margins !!

who picked them?
Oh come off it. He can’t control every players actions on the field. Both players are the best in their respective positions in Britain and Ireland. 

The best in their positions in B+I? Don’t let Scottish Rugby Twitter hear you say that.







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Originally posted by bills burr bills burr wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

If curry and liam hadn’t made two really basic errors gatland goes down as the most succesful lions coach of all time. Small margins !!

who picked them?
Oh come off it. He can’t control every players actions on the field. Both players are the best in their respective positions in Britain and Ireland. 
I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

If curry and liam hadn’t made two really basic errors gatland goes down as the most succesful lions coach of all time. Small margins !!

who picked them?
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Both absolutely true comments
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SA14 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 August 2021 at 5:33pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

If curry and liam hadn’t made two really basic errors gatland goes down as the most succesful lions coach of all time. Small margins !!

Exactly. Australia 2013. Picked Foxy before BOD in the final decider. Stroke of genius. If they’d lost people would still be going on about what a big mistake it was not picking BOD. 
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If curry and liam hadn’t made two really basic errors gatland goes down as the most succesful lions coach of all time. Small margins !!

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Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

I’m not sure what tactics Gatland could have used to counteract South Africa’s slowing of the game down and using their coach as water boy as well as his hour long rant to influence refs in the tests. 

He could for one have instructed his team to raise their tempo at lineout time and suggested that his 9 sometimes took a quick penalty. Neither of these options were pursued. I am afraid Gats thought he could out Bok the Boks because they had not had gametime - he was wrong. 

 Both of which could still be nullified. 

If the Boks were continually late arriving for a Lions throw then the ref would have something to say. As for nullifying a 9 taking a quick tap then that would surely result in a penalty if, as I assume you mean, you impede him before he had gone 10 metres otherwise if he had made 10 easy metres the tempo would have been raised and they would have made the easiest 10 metres of the game. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

I’m not sure what tactics Gatland could have used to counteract South Africa’s slowing of the game down and using their coach as water boy as well as his hour long rant to influence refs in the tests. 

He could for one have instructed his team to raise their tempo at lineout time and suggested that his 9 sometimes took a quick penalty. Neither of these options were pursued. I am afraid Gats thought he could out Bok the Boks because they had not had gametime - he was wrong. 

 Both of which could still be nullified. 
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