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    Posted: 26 August 2023 at 3:55am
Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

As a hooker Lake is struggling to get a game, as a rugby player however he is very good and hard not to pick. 

It's only his lineout throwing that let's him down. Think outside the box get a wing to throw in, like the good old days.

Well, quite. It's amazing how little innovation we get in the game nowadays. I understand why they changed from wings throwing in, though - it's so they can join in back moves once the ball has been secured - especially in the opposition half.

But it's clear to me that the hookers are not always very talented at throwing in. Why not just get (in practice) an idea of which forwards are the best ball-players and most accurate throwers, and then practise with those? It could be 1, 2, 3, 6, 7 or 8 - who cares, unless it's also one of the best jumpers - in which case you make a judgement call. I'm fed up that afaik no-one has tried this. It's about time. 

100% with you, but I’m a bit more rigid with only a front rower throwing in.
I’m also of the opinion that props only lift from the front but that’s for a different debate on a different day.
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Fifita and Lousi are better than any blindsides/locks in the Wales squad. Wish they had “other” red jersey!
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Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

As a hooker Lake is struggling to get a game, as a rugby player however he is very good and hard not to pick. 

I think Lake is definitely the man going forward, has all the attributes just needs to sort out the line out and his fitness but hes a great prospect.
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Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Scarlets camp in sunny Aberystwyth next week. Wales play us in a full contact game there.
I heard about this ‘match’ a few weeks ago and assumed it’d be behind closed doors at the Parc or Cardiff. What’s Aberystwyth’s pitch / ground like?! 


My bad..it’s at the Vale
Probably dont want the public to see Wales lose again LOL
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Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

As a hooker Lake is struggling to get a game, as a rugby player however he is very good and hard not to pick. 

It's only his lineout throwing that let's him down. Think outside the box get a wing to throw in, like the good old days.

Well, quite. It's amazing how little innovation we get in the game nowadays. I understand why they changed from wings throwing in, though - it's so they can join in back moves once the ball has been secured - especially in the opposition half.

But it's clear to me that the hookers are not always very talented at throwing in. Why not just get (in practice) an idea of which forwards are the best ball-players and most accurate throwers, and then practise with those? It could be 1, 2, 3, 6, 7 or 8 - who cares, unless it's also one of the best jumpers - in which case you make a judgement call. I'm fed up that afaik no-one has tried this. It's about time. 

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Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

As a hooker Lake is struggling to get a game, as a rugby player however he is very good and hard not to pick. 

It's only his lineout throwing that let's him down. Think outside the box get a wing to throw in, like the good old days.

That's an interesting one Dai. !
I am old enough to remember wings throwing in at the line out at Stradey.
Also remember Cardiff prop, Andrew Lewis, taking over the throwing in at line out time, in some games for Wales.

For me , it doesn't come in to the equation, even though I agree Lake is a good player, but its just that Ryan Elias is a better, more experienced tight forward. This is EXACTLY what we need to beat Fiji, players tight controlled pressure game,  with our forwards really attempting to exert some set piece dominance.
Ryan's throwing in is not the best, but its better than Lake's
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Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

As a hooker Lake is struggling to get a game, as a rugby player however he is very good and hard not to pick. 

It's only his lineout throwing that let's him down. Think outside the box get a wing to throw in, like the good old days.
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Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

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Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

Only two scrum halves or have I missed something?
Apparently Costellow is cover for 9....

I can see him playing there in an emergency - skilful player. 
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As a hooker Lake is struggling to get a game, as a rugby player however he is very good and hard not to pick. 

She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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There'll be one named captain on match day - no confusion there.

Dewi (or 'Dowey', as the English press have decided to call him, despite him telling them how he says it Ermm) is the more vocal/shouty/sweary, while Jac is the 'lead by example' skipper, as shown against England in Cardiff. They've taken turns to captain previously for Wales age grade sides, and they work well together, but I expect Mogs to become the default captain before too long.
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I got the impression from the press conference that Jac would have final say if it came down to it. Just my reading of it though. 
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Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Joint captaincy. If Jac and Dewi are playing in the same match, whose decision is final? Suppose Wales have a penalty 35m out and Jac wants to go for the corner and Dewi wants to take the 3 points or vice-versa. Do we put it to a vote?

With Dewi's throwing he'll take the points every time. Wink
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Joint captaincy. If Jac and Dewi are playing in the same match, whose decision is final? Suppose Wales have a penalty 35m out and Jac wants to go for the corner and Dewi wants to take the 3 points or vice-versa. Do we put it to a vote?
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Originally posted by crj89 crj89 wrote:

What does it say about us as a club to only have 4 players representing Wales at the World Cup? We usually have 2/3/4 players on a lions tour, let alone Wales.

The lowest representation of any of the regions.
Slight irony though as normally we are moaning about losing so many players. From our angle, Id rather our players be tucked up at home.
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Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Just seen this on the BBC:

You have to feel for Taine Plumtree.

He was all set to start pre-season with Scarlets this summer when he got a call out of the blue from Warren Gatland to join Wales on their training camp.

His ability to play in the second-row and back-row would have made him a huge asset but injury at Twickenham has cost him.

So it seems that Plumtree may have got picked ahead of Tshiunza but for the injury. Gatland has told him to be ready in case Wales need replacements during the tournament, so he may still make it…

I hope we look at whether Plumtree needs an operation, and if so, get it done soon rather than try and ‘manage it’ through the World Cup period in case he gets a call-up. The last thing we need is to find out he needs a shoulder op once the season has started and lose him for 3-4 months. 
A colleague of mine who is usually quite in the know says that Plumtree is fit just not selected.
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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by locked out supertaf locked out supertaf wrote:

Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

Only two scrum halves or have I missed something?
Apparently Costellow is cover for 9....

I can see him playing there in an emergency - skilful player. 
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