20 mph speed limits from 18 September 2023

Try wonastow Road Monmouth. No residential properties.  In fact not many industrial properties.  20mph🤷‍♂️

SA14 wrote: scarletpimp wrote: reesytheexile wrote: What’s more concerning is that people sit at home voting on phones for something that has only been in force about 3-4 days not years. The reaction is incredibly OTT especially when the policy is based on care for safety. It needs a year to monitor surely and then review properly imo. In the interim period ,exceptions can be put to individual councils for consideration on the merits. I just don’t understand the knee jerk at all. Just my opinion of course  Totally agree with Reesy and also SA15 above. I would repeat  would I have said before.. my wife and I WALK around Llanelli a considerable amount . As a pedestrian  I am well aware of the speeds cars do in in an urban area,  whether they are near schools or not. We live in a 20 mph limit, and that was so, BEFORE the limit came into force. People take scant notice to be honest, which sums up the " do as I like society " we have become. The majority of people do'nt walk anywhere,  just jump into their car, and consequently they have little idea whats its like to be a pedestrian . This is half the problem with our society today, totally reliant on cars,  ,which is contributing hugely to Co2 emissions  & the destruction  of the natural world we love, wiping out species in the process.  But there’s more electric cars on the road and it’ll only increase. Plus as someone pointed out it’s been a few days. The next generation will be used to it. People moaning because they can’t drive fast.

 

ap sior wrote: SA14 wrote: scarletpimp wrote: reesytheexile wrote: What’s more concerning is that people sit at home voting on phones for something that has only been in force about 3-4 days not years. The reaction is incredibly OTT especially when the policy is based on care for safety. It needs a year to monitor surely and then review properly imo. In the interim period ,exceptions can be put to individual councils for consideration on the merits. I just don’t understand the knee jerk at all. Just my opinion of course  Totally agree with Reesy and also SA15 above. I would repeat  would I have said before.. my wife and I WALK around Llanelli a considerable amount . As a pedestrian  I am well aware of the speeds cars do in in an urban area,  whether they are near schools or not. We live in a 20 mph limit, and that was so, BEFORE the limit came into force. People take scant notice to be honest, which sums up the " do as I like society " we have become. The majority of people do'nt walk anywhere,  just jump into their car, and consequently they have little idea whats its like to be a pedestrian . This is half the problem with our society today, totally reliant on cars,  ,which is contributing hugely to Co2 emissions  & the destruction  of the natural world we love, wiping out species in the process.  But there’s more electric cars on the road and it’ll only increase. Plus as someone pointed out it’s been a few days. The next generation will be used to it. People moaning because they can’t drive fast.    Excuse me if this has been posted previously, but electric cars are 30% heavier than an equivalent diesel car. This translates into longer stopping distances.

Edited by SA14 - 24 September 2023 at 6:18pm

I have no issue with the principle of 20mph zones, and am someone who isnt a fast driver. I live in a 20mph zone and cars speed past my hpuse all the time. Not once have i seen a speed van on our road.The police couldnt enforce the 30mph rules, let alone 20mph zones popping up everywhere. That isnt a dig at the police just fact. This policy has cost over £35m to date and by all accounts that will spiral further as issues arise. Take into account that education is underfunded by 10's of millions this year and tbe NHS forecasting a shortfall of over £800m, surely the money spent should have been invested better by the WA. Talking to a Labour representative a while ago, he said that if they had replaced ALL 30mph zones with 20mph zones it would have saved £millions without any major hastle. To say "some 30mph zones will be 20mph and some wo t" doesnt cut the mustard for me.

Oh no I won’t.  I’m too old.  Whether it’s 2030 or 2035.  I won’t. So you don’t know everything eh 

Wait until the camera vans are placed in positions not for safety but for maximum chance of fining people.

There's a part of the road by us that goes from 40, to 20 then 60 all within 1/2 a mile.

roy munster wrote: salmidach wrote: Wales under Drakeford and Labour is fast becoming a nanny state Refused to bypass the brynglas tunnels due to environmentalists complaining banning food deals such as meal deals in supermarkets 20mph zones.. I'm just glad for once that I don't live in Wales. Labour in Wales are like the Tories in Westminster, unfortunately though in Wales there's no party big enough or popular enough to remove them! Dont forget the 100 pages of frankly insane anti landlord laws, the bankrupt airport, compulsory heater pumps to replace boilers at massive cost, the record council tax hikes........Oh and theyve recently bought portcawl coney island beach and funfair etc and sold it off for houses The biggest elvis festival in the world is now finished because of this and trecco bay one of the biggest caravan parks in europe will soon lose that status too.......Anti business, anti common sense WAG are destroying our economy