Scarlet Fever Llanelli Rugby Sport Wales Tickets Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > SOCIAL > OTHER SPORTS
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - 2023 Ashes
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login


2023 Ashes

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 15161718>
Author
Message
GPR - Rochester View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 01 December 2014
Location: Rhydcymerau
Status: Offline
Points: 17595
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GPR - Rochester Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 July 2023 at 9:53am
Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Logical reply and a good reply ...what really gets me is not the engerlish or their team , its the welsh supporters ignoring the elephant in the room ...if there is the interest for cricket , lets sort ourselves out and develope cymru and its own side , if you love cricket it would benefit the game by encouraging the growth of the game on a world stage ...we may not be the best but who cares ,and lets not forget how nz have developed over the years ...im sure theres enough people with enough talent to get the ball rolling 

There really is no elephant in the room unless, of course, you are anti English/British. Plenty of excellent Welsh players have worn the colours with great pride & I certainly would not be painting them as some sort of deluded turncoats who had no pride in their Welshness.

I totally get the anti Westminster feeling but I certainly do not confuse that with being anti English. 

It's nothing to do with any anti English feeling , it's all to do with the neediness of some to have such a lack of confidence in themselves , they need to want to pretend that Wales are part of something they are not ...Look at the supporters on the TV , the commentators the impact on the eye when watching the test match , Wales are never ever mentioned ..not in commentary , never by the supporters and I've yet to see a red dragon flag anywhere.....It's like an adopted child that is never invited by the family for food , photos or holidays ..they just stay in their room ...
The whole system doesn't it hate us , the truth is that they don't even know we exist ..that's our fault not theirs ...
If the past international players got together to form and develope a proper Welsh side , you would see a massive upturn in interest in cricket , which is not there currently ...but unfortunately all I see is the self serving attitude of these Welsh individuals , with no thought for the future development of the game through the Welsh outlet ....it's a massive missed opportunity for all countries especially us in Wales ...
The ECB note no w , has only once in the last 5 years mentioned Wales and that was when the system was accused of racism , strange that .
If people had money to invest , what a cash cow it would be for all concerned if the above idea was put into place .....

 still can't believe how many Welsh dragons are flying in the stadium ....Must be awesome to be Welsh and delusional - this is from your post a few days ago!!!!

I understand that you have a bad back - my commiserations. Just a thought it may be the strain of carrying all the hopes & aspirations of the whole Welsh community on your shoulders for so long. As a proud & passionate Welshman I relieve you of your duties.Wink
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
Oracle View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 19 September 2022
Location: North pole
Status: Offline
Points: 3959
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Oracle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 July 2023 at 10:11am
As the Americans say in official circles....Sir , I stand relieved Wink
Back to Top
Oracle View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 19 September 2022
Location: North pole
Status: Offline
Points: 3959
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Oracle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 July 2023 at 10:24am
Of course , you could always be a Welsh version of Kerry Packer ...worth thinking about 
Back to Top
reesytheexile View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 11 August 2012
Location: Machynys
Status: Online
Points: 16813
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote reesytheexile Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 July 2023 at 11:55am
Does anyone know what the Eng and Wales Cricket Board invests in grass roots cricket in Wales? Should we not get a bigger slice of the financial cake to say Surrey and Hampshire as a poor nation to boost the game? Does Glamorgan get central funding from them and what do they do with the money? I agree with the learned Oracle on the hidden Wales within England cricket which must put some Welsh cricket fans off supporting England?  đź¤”
Back to Top
RR1972 View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 27 April 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 17603
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RR1972 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 July 2023 at 12:30pm
All counties get central funding, tbh glamorgan cut their own throats to become so cardiff based and excluding a lot of their west wales fan base. They also binned the colts team that used to develop players. Tbh glamotgan talent devekopment has been dire in recent years. Simon jones last player we brought through who got capped and that was over 15 years ago, as for welsh fire 1 win in 2 years awful stuff you have to ask why glamorgan have failed to tap into  the asian community to get more support and players from that community, i can’t recall any home grown asian players making it at glamorgan

Edited by RR1972 - 23 July 2023 at 12:33pm
Back to Top
reesytheexile View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 11 August 2012
Location: Machynys
Status: Online
Points: 16813
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote reesytheexile Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 July 2023 at 12:41pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

All counties get central funding, tbh glamorgan cut their own throats to become so cardiff based and excluding a lot of their west wales fan base. They also binned the colts team that used to develop players. Tbh glamotgan talent devekopment has been dire in recent years. Simon jones last player we brought through who got capped and that was over 15 years ago, as for welsh fire 1 win in 2 years awful stuff you have to ask why glamorgan have failed to tap into  the asian community to get more support and players from that community, i can’t recall any home grown asian players making it at glamorgan
They have become Sophia Gardens CC sadly ! Remember them regularly playing at St Helens . As you say it’s cutting off interest when you can only see your Welsh team in  Cardiff 
Back to Top
scarletpimp View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 22 November 2015
Location: llanelli
Status: Offline
Points: 2079
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote scarletpimp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 July 2023 at 1:22am
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

All counties get central funding, tbh glamorgan cut their own throats to become so cardiff based and excluding a lot of their west wales fan base. They also binned the colts team that used to develop players. Tbh glamotgan talent devekopment has been dire in recent years. Simon jones last player we brought through who got capped and that was over 15 years ago, as for welsh fire 1 win in 2 years awful stuff you have to ask why glamorgan have failed to tap into  the asian community to get more support and players from that community, i can’t recall any home grown asian players making it at glamorgan
They have become Sophia Gardens CC sadly ! Remember them regularly playing at St Helens . As you say it’s cutting off interest when you can only see your Welsh team in  Cardiff 


As a Glamorgan member of many years, I am reasonably well qualified
to talk of the above. Also been involved with the baconiers at St Helens for some years now.

I agree with RR, with the comments regarding being centralised in Cardiff.
A day supporting Glam for me is to leave the house by 9.00 to walk to the station in Llanelli.. I usually miss about 20/25 mins by the time I get to Swalec stadium. Have to leave by 5.15 to walk back to Cardiff central to ensure I get the 5.45 train home. I am usually back in the house by 7.30pm..so its a reasonable commitment, time wise and financially, if I go to every day of a county championship fixture
I long for games to be played back in Swansea again,  but there is no chance of that.
The standard of the old ground does not meet with modern requirements sadly.
Its complicated, by the fact that the ground is owned by the council , but the Pavilion by Swansea Athletic club.(not entirely sure about exact name).
Swansea always attracted better crowds than Cardiff
Recent years have Cardiff also producing awful  featherbed pitches. With little chance of results.
Glam have now drawn 7 out of 8 championship matches this season. Not great !

Glam played two Royal London 50 over one day games in Neath last year, and its the same again this year, with fixtures against Hants and Warwick ,in August.
I welcome this , but it seems a token gesture to me.
Cricket has also ceased in Colwyn Bay, where we usually played Lancs.

RR's comments on development are valid, regarding development, particularly Asian talent.
Its compounded by the fact that cricket in Wales is not strong ATM.
Don't think cricket is organised coached or taught in schools, to any great degree.
Its interesting to note that a high percentage of the England team went to private schools, where it is probably taught..Current glam player, Sam Northeast, is a prime example and had a sports scholarship at a private school.
Incredibly sad that the last two Glam players to pulled on England caps , were Robert Croft, and Simon Jones,  both CARMARTHENSHIRE boys. 
I stood yer on tanner bank
Back to Top
roy munster View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 30 August 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 15369
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roy munster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2023 at 4:21pm
do we have any figures on crowds at cardiff compared to swansea
I always thought the crowds were generally better at swansea
ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER)
Back to Top
Oracle View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 19 September 2022
Location: North pole
Status: Offline
Points: 3959
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Oracle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2023 at 5:21pm
WinkThey used to send them from Swansea prison as extra punishment Wink
Back to Top
RR1972 View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 27 April 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 17603
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RR1972 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 July 2023 at 12:24pm
Originally posted by scarletpimp scarletpimp wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

All counties get central funding, tbh glamorgan cut their own throats to become so cardiff based and excluding a lot of their west wales fan base. They also binned the colts team that used to develop players. Tbh glamotgan talent devekopment has been dire in recent years. Simon jones last player we brought through who got capped and that was over 15 years ago, as for welsh fire 1 win in 2 years awful stuff you have to ask why glamorgan have failed to tap into  the asian community to get more support and players from that community, i can’t recall any home grown asian players making it at glamorgan
They have become Sophia Gardens CC sadly ! Remember them regularly playing at St Helens . As you say it’s cutting off interest when you can only see your Welsh team in  Cardiff 


As a Glamorgan member of many years, I am reasonably well qualified
to talk of the above. Also been involved with the baconiers at St Helens for some years now.

I agree with RR, with the comments regarding being centralised in Cardiff.
A day supporting Glam for me is to leave the house by 9.00 to walk to the station in Llanelli.. I usually miss about 20/25 mins by the time I get to Swalec stadium. Have to leave by 5.15 to walk back to Cardiff central to ensure I get the 5.45 train home. I am usually back in the house by 7.30pm..so its a reasonable commitment, time wise and financially, if I go to every day of a county championship fixture
I long for games to be played back in Swansea again,  but there is no chance of that.
The standard of the old ground does not meet with modern requirements sadly.
Its complicated, by the fact that the ground is owned by the council , but the Pavilion by Swansea Athletic club.(not entirely sure about exact name).
Swansea always attracted better crowds than Cardiff
Recent years have Cardiff also producing awful  featherbed pitches. With little chance of results.
Glam have now drawn 7 out of 8 championship matches this season. Not great !

Glam played two Royal London 50 over one day games in Neath last year, and its the same again this year, with fixtures against Hants and Warwick ,in August.
I welcome this , but it seems a token gesture to me.
Cricket has also ceased in Colwyn Bay, where we usually played Lancs.

RR's comments on development are valid, regarding development, particularly Asian talent.
Its compounded by the fact that cricket in Wales is not strong ATM.
Don't think cricket is organised coached or taught in schools, to any great degree.
Its interesting to note that a high percentage of the England team went to private schools, where it is probably taught..Current glam player, Sam Northeast, is a prime example and had a sports scholarship at a private school.
Incredibly sad that the last two Glam players to pulled on England caps , were Robert Croft, and Simon Jones,  both CARMARTHENSHIREf boys. 
cricket in wales is in a right mess mid week leagues vanishing numbers dtopping on a saturday, youngsters cam’t be doing with giving up a full saturday plus that rules out anyone who works weekends.in all honesty there are too many counties and a few need culling, with glamorgan pretty awful player development over recent years and bang average results we are well in the firing line
Back to Top
RR1972 View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 27 April 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 17603
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RR1972 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 July 2023 at 12:25pm
England lose test and struggling if keeper had held that they would be right in the mire
Back to Top
Oracle View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 19 September 2022
Location: North pole
Status: Offline
Points: 3959
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Oracle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 July 2023 at 1:19pm
It's engerland...not england Big smile
Back to Top
Oracle View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 19 September 2022
Location: North pole
Status: Offline
Points: 3959
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Oracle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 July 2023 at 12:03am
Good first day for our boys in yellow , I think it may be engerland that are now practicing the rain dance 
Back to Top
roy munster View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 30 August 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 15369
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roy munster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 July 2023 at 3:17am
Instead of building the endlessly delayed 16000 seater concert arena down Cardiff bay for £270 million
why not build a roof over the 16000 sophia gardens stadium and use it for concerts and indoor and outdoor cricket test and one dayes all year round etc etc Im pretty sure even glamorgan and the WAG could find a stadium roof sponsor for only the 2nd roofed cricket venue in the world. No more rained off matches no more refunds The EWCB would have to give us more test matches then ........Or we can just carry on playing in the endless rain for the next century

Ahh its nice to dream eh


Edited by roy munster - 28 July 2023 at 3:19am
ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER)
Back to Top
GPR - Rochester View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 01 December 2014
Location: Rhydcymerau
Status: Offline
Points: 17595
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GPR - Rochester Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 July 2023 at 7:15am
The Aussies are looking physically & mentally shot. They have had two of the worst first morning sessions I can ever recall from them. No fight, no guts, no leadership they look as if they want to be back on bondi beach. 

Fridays morning session was painful viewing for even this Boycott loving fan. Yesterday morning I found myself feeling sorry for Ricky Ponting who could clearly see where Cummins was going wrong. They just kept bowling too straight at both openers who are very deft at playing off their pads; they compounded it by having only one sweeper on the boundary & he was on the off side.

Longer term Australia will need to take the captaincy away from Cummins as it is too much for him considering his importance as a strike bowler. Don't think the weather is going to save them this test. A wonderful transformation from England in fairness. They have gone from playing too many rash strokes to making their opponents earn their wickets & they have done it and still mange to score at 5 an over - pretty impressive stuff. 
Back to Top
Oracle View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 19 September 2022
Location: North pole
Status: Offline
Points: 3959
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Oracle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 July 2023 at 7:58am
A fair assessment of 2 pretty ordinary sides , with the occasional player who can up his game , the declaration in the first test has come back to haunt them in the series , a draw us probably a fair result as both teams have weakness in all facets of the game .The big difference was Australia losing their spinner , changed the face of the last couple if tests ....All in all an exciting series , but the quality of play at times has been dreadful ...
Time for both sides to rebuild in readiness for the next series
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 15161718>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.04
Copyright ©2001-2021 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.172 seconds.