A certain tackle by Warburton

Thought we'd lost you Col !

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Exactly !

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Gate12 wrote:

Personally I don't think that Wales inability to win the game should detract away from the refereeing issues raised as a result of the game.

How odd, I think the exact opposite!

But that's for a Wales discussion. In the context of this thread, I agree completely.

I was thinking about this lifting issue this morning and to get a running player to the ground when you're both head on you simply have to take his legs out - either tackle him below the waist or lift his legs to do so. So have we now got a situation where any tackle above the waist has a very high chance of being a penalty and being illegal? Is this good for the game?

If you drop them, that's a red. If you hold them, it can look like a spear and that's a red. The rules about the breakdown and tacklers must release has been the main cause of this!

I'm switching to League - much simpler. LOL

What's that League thing where you try and put pressure on a vital vein and get your opponent to black out? Just goes to show that no matter how straight forward the tackle rules are, there will always be ways to get around them and players happy to do so.

Mike wrote:

It was a decision of grotesque unfairness and disgraceful personal judgement from Rolland.

It is absolutely indefensible.

Nice to have you back young Mike,

In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"

Gate12 wrote:

the wider implications of this decision,

This will be very interesting. There are tip tackles done every week. Certain ones are worse than others. But the rulings don't say much about a yellow card being the right call.

Therefore I can see lots of referees just giving a penalty (under I think the 3rd directive of the law 10.4?). Which totally goes against what Rolland did and the IRB's recommendation.

Every tackle from now on like Sam's should be met with a red. If it is missed by the ref then a player should be cited and then banned, if not then then it makes a mockery of the 'law'.

If a ref sees the incident and does not act on it by giving a red then they should be hauled in front of the IRB. Mr Rolland has now set the tone (correctly according to the rules, daft bloody rule in my eyes) so i now expect every incident to be treated in the same manner.

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Mike wrote:

A Evans wrote:

Every tackle from now on like Sam's should be met with a red.

We know that's not going to happen.

The refereeing establishment is one of the enduring disgraces in our sport. The fact that there are only three credible referees in world rugby is outrageous.

I know and you know full well that it wont happen but people are hiding behind the fact he had no choice and followed the laws of the game so it SHOULD happen. In reality it will happen 1 time out of every 10.

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A Evans wrote:

In reality it will happen 1 time out of every 10.

Does that mean we should bemoan the 1 out of 10 who got it right?