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    Posted: 09 March 2025 at 3:15pm
Are there any guidelines on this???

England lose the ball outside Italian 22, Brace goes back almost to the English 10m line. How far must a team advance before advantage is over???

In the 22m area, it seems that a side has to score before the ref calls advantage over!! 

Any refs here ?????
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Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Are there any guidelines on this???

England lose the ball outside Italian 22, Brace goes back almost to the English 10m line. How far must a team advance before advantage is over???

In the 22m area, it seems that a side has to score before the ref calls advantage over!! 

Any refs here ?????

There is a great deal of inconsistency here - in one of the weekend's tests, a team had a knock-on advantage, came within a few yards of the opposition line from quite a way back, lost the ball - and then were rewarded with a scrum! 

I'd have said they had a big advantage and messed up, but the ref saw it differently. 

I think clearer guidelines and more consistency are definitely needed here. 
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Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Are there any guidelines on this???

England lose the ball outside Italian 22, Brace goes back almost to the English 10m line. How far must a team advance before advantage is over???

In the 22m area, it seems that a side has to score before the ref calls advantage over!! 

Any refs here ?????

There is a great deal of inconsistency here - in one of the weekend's tests, a team had a knock-on advantage, came within a few yards of the opposition line from quite a way back, lost the ball - and then were rewarded with a scrum! 

I'd have said they had a big advantage and messed up, but the ref saw it differently. 

I think clearer guidelines and more consistency are definitely needed here. 

In the example that I quoted, England has moved up half the length of the pitch. 

Either there should be a stipulation of 20 metres made advantage over, or a 10 seconds or say 3 phases if a side fails to make 20 metres. In the closing stages, a side can use the current messy situation to run down the clock.
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I think it should be 3 phases for a knock on, regardless on the yards made, or if you kick the ball away (unless it goes out on the full).

For a penalty it's a bit tricker...
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