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    Posted: 21 June 2023 at 9:08am
The draw for the 2 European competitions take place today, with the Challenge Cup draw starting at 12:30 UK time & then the Champions Cup draw taking place at around 12:50.

In short, 3 pools of 6 teams with 2 Top 14 sides in each pool & then the rest of the places made up of teams from the URC, Premiership & 2 invitees. Teams from the same URC shield cannot be placed in the same pool - so we will be kept separate from the Ospreys & Dragons. Clubs will play 4 teams home or away during the pool stage, as ever fixtures will be made available a few weeks after the draw. 

BKT UNITED RUGBY CHAMPIONSHIP – Cell C Sharks, Emirates Lions, Benetton Rugby, Edinburgh Rugby, Ospreys, Scarlets, Dragons RFC, Zebre Parma

TOP 14 – Castres Olympique, ASM Clermont Auvergne, Montpellier Hérault Rugby, Section Paloise, USAP, Oyonnax Rugby

GALLAGHER PREMIERSHIP – Gloucester Rugby, Newcastle Falcons

INVITED – Two clubs to be confirmed


I'll be watching the draw, live on EPC Rugby's website & will try to post the draw as it happens.
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

The draw for the 2 European competitions take place today, with the Challenge Cup draw starting at 12:30 UK time & then the Champions Cup draw taking place at around 12:50.

In short, 3 pools of 6 teams with 2 Top 14 sides in each pool & then the rest of the places made up of teams from the URC, Premiership & 2 invitees. Teams from the same URC shield cannot be placed in the same pool - so we will be kept separate from the Ospreys & Dragons. Clubs will play 4 teams home or away during the pool stage, as ever fixtures will be made available a few weeks after the draw. 

BKT UNITED RUGBY CHAMPIONSHIP – Cell C Sharks, Emirates Lions, Benetton Rugby, Edinburgh Rugby, Ospreys, Scarlets, Dragons RFC, Zebre Parma

TOP 14 – Castres Olympique, ASM Clermont Auvergne, Montpellier Hérault Rugby, Section Paloise, USAP, Oyonnax Rugby

GALLAGHER PREMIERSHIP – Gloucester Rugby, Newcastle Falcons

INVITED – Two clubs to be confirmed


I'll be watching the draw, live on EPC Rugby's website & will try to post the draw as it happens.

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thanks FScarlet 
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Pool A  Pool B   Pool C
Invitee 1 Ospreys Edinburgh
Pau USAP Castres
Dragons Newcastle Scarlets
Zebre Lions Clermont
Oyonnax Montpellier Invitee 2
Cell C Sharks Benetton Gloucester

We will play 4 sides home or away from pool 3.

Invitee teams to be confirmed at a later date.










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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote turkishrebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2023 at 12:56pm
thanks FScarlet, some nice teams to play there and some good trips
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No problem, there are rumours that one of the invitees will be a Georgian side & possibly the second may be Jersey.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ChrisX Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2023 at 1:15pm
so who do we play? such a confusing format? Just 4 out of the 5 and either home or away?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fscarlet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2023 at 1:16pm
Originally posted by ChrisX ChrisX wrote:

so who do we play? such a confusing format? Just 4 out of the 5 and either home or away?

You got it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Eastern outpost Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2023 at 1:56pm
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

No problem, there are rumours that one of the invitees will be a Georgian side & possibly the second may be Jersey.
Cheetahs to be shafted again, in that case.

What a shame, although nothing against the Eng Championship winners or the top Georgian club.
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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

No problem, there are rumours that one of the invitees will be a Georgian side & possibly the second may be Jersey.
Cheetahs to be shafted again, in that case.

What a shame, although nothing against the Eng Championship winners or the top Georgian club.

It's not set in stone, only rumblings as to what I have seen online.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Eastern outpost Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2023 at 2:03pm
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

No problem, there are rumours that one of the invitees will be a Georgian side & possibly the second may be Jersey.
Cheetahs to be shafted again, in that case.

What a shame, although nothing against the Eng Championship winners or the top Georgian club.

It's not set in stone, only rumblings as to what I have seen online.
Thanks FS. We will see how the EPCR crumble the croissant….
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote reesytheexile Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2023 at 2:42pm
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

No problem, there are rumours that one of the invitees will be a Georgian side & possibly the second may be Jersey.
Cheetahs to be shafted again, in that case.

What a shame, although nothing against the Eng Championship winners or the top Georgian club.

It's not set in stone, only rumblings as to what I have seen online.
Thanks FS. We will see how the EPCR crumble the croissant….[/QUOTE] I’m a flake the croissant man personally although I bow to your superior awareness of La France 🇫🇷😉
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Wouldn’t have thought Jersey would get a place before Ealing but you never know.

Toughest group for us, yay.
As much as I fancy a trip to Queensholme, if we get Gloucester & Clermont at home then we can top the group
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Originally posted by Mr Lee91 Mr Lee91 wrote:

Wouldn’t have thought Jersey would get a place before Ealing but you never know.

Toughest group for us, yay.
As much as I fancy a trip to Queensholme, if we get Gloucester & Clermont at home then we can top the group
Jersey won the championship which is fair I guess
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Eastern outpost Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2023 at 9:27pm
Two French opposition plus Glos and Mystery invitee 2 would appear to be our opposition, on the basis that we may not be playing anyone in our league.

Also, one french side away and the other at home, is what has been put forward as a likely scenario.

Any thoughts?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fscarlet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2023 at 8:03am
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Two French opposition plus Glos and Mystery invitee 2 would appear to be our opposition, on the basis that we may not be playing anyone in our league.

Also, one french side away and the other at home, is what has been put forward as a likely scenario.

Any thoughts?

I'd have thought so, I think the Dragons & Ospreys may end up playing their URC counterparts.
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