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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Clermont Hotel booked with free cancellation so have something in the diary. Will need to think about how to get there.

Would quite fancy another trip to Castres but it’s probably a bit tight timewise to do both. 

No one has mentioned why on earth we are playing Edinburgh when they are in our league and not playing Gloucester - different league and 2 hours away for a bumper crowd and big atmosphere.

Has EPCR explained why they’ve gone against their rules?

They haven't, this is taken from the announcement of the format & also the draw:

The EPCR Challenge Cup will be competed for by 18 clubs with eight representatives from the URC, six from the TOP 14, two from the Premiership, plus two invited clubs which will be announced shortly. (See clubs below)

The clubs will be drawn or allocated into three pools of six with two TOP 14 clubs in each pool. Clubs from the same URC Shield and from the Premiership, as well as the two invitees, will be kept apart during the draw.

Clubs will play four different opponents home or away with same-league matches being kept to a minimum, and only impacting clubs from the URC. The four highest-ranked clubs from each of the pools will qualify for the knockout stage.

Thanks for the clarification FS. 

Slightly weasel words from the organisers, as I’m not sure why we couldn’t have played Glos so keeping the same-league matches to zero for us. I am surprised about both French matches being away, although that’s much easier for fans than an expedition to Tbilisi, fun though I’m sure it would’ve been. The club will be pleased, no doubt.

I’m sure the Gloucester faithful will embrace Tbilisi and its attractions. Hopefully, they’ll get quite a following to travel.

On the TV front, any idea who FloRugby are? 
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The last time that we played a European game in England that fans could attend was London Irish in January 2020 (Not including that Bath game as we had limited ticket availability due to covid restrictions).

Awful fixtures again. Another season with no away trips for me then.
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Originally posted by scarletsrules scarletsrules wrote:

09/12/23 - Castres (A) - 16:15
15/12/23 - Black Lion (H) - 20:00
13/01/24 - Clermont (A) - 14:00
19/01/24 - Edinburgh (H) - 20:00

From a financial perspective, these are shockingly bad fixtures. Night time Friday kick offs against Georgian and Scottish teams, so very few traveling supporters and far from ideal for Scarlets supporters from the outlying areas also. Then two expensive trips to France for the team any any supporters to play the most attractive fixtures with sensible kick off times, which would have drawn good support had they been at home.
I presume that the Welsh Regions are represented by the WRU on the Challenge Cup competition board? If so they are certainly not looking after the interests of their teams.
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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

On the TV front, any idea who FloRugby are? 
Think they're just the USA coverage holders
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Gutted was looking forward to Tiblisi. Clermont great trip but might go Castres this time 
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Originally posted by minded minded wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

On the TV front, any idea who FloRugby are? 
Think they're just the USA coverage holders
Thanks for that.
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No direct flights from UK to either Castre or Clermont for that time of year? Or am I missing something 
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For Castres, fly to Toulouse, and an hour or so's train journey from there. Flights are available from Bristol.

No idea on Clermont.
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Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

Originally posted by scarletsrules scarletsrules wrote:

09/12/23 - Castres (A) - 16:15
15/12/23 - Black Lion (H) - 20:00
13/01/24 - Clermont (A) - 14:00
19/01/24 - Edinburgh (H) - 20:00

From a financial perspective, these are shockingly bad fixtures. Night time Friday kick offs against Georgian and Scottish teams, so very few traveling supporters and far from ideal for Scarlets supporters from the outlying areas also. Then two expensive trips to France for the team any any supporters to play the most attractive fixtures with sensible kick off times, which would have drawn good support had they been at home.
I presume that the Welsh Regions are represented by the WRU on the Challenge Cup competition board? If so they are certainly not looking after the interests of their teams.

Thankfully our home league games have excellent kick off times so no one can use the late kick off excuse there. 
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Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Thankfully our home league games have excellent kick off times so no one can use the late kick off excuse there. 
True, but there’s only so much good Ko times will do when 8 of our 11 home games are on BBC/S4C.
Cardiff (4 Nov, 17:15) Glasgow (30 Mar, 19:35) Ulster (11 May, 15:05) are the only home games behind a paywall.

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Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

Originally posted by scarletsrules scarletsrules wrote:

09/12/23 - Castres (A) - 16:15
15/12/23 - Black Lion (H) - 20:00
13/01/24 - Clermont (A) - 14:00
19/01/24 - Edinburgh (H) - 20:00

From a financial perspective, these are shockingly bad fixtures. Night time Friday kick offs against Georgian and Scottish teams, so very few traveling supporters and far from ideal for Scarlets supporters from the outlying areas also. Then two expensive trips to France for the team any any supporters to play the most attractive fixtures with sensible kick off times, which would have drawn good support had they been at home.
I presume that the Welsh Regions are represented by the WRU on the Challenge Cup competition board? If so they are certainly not looking after the interests of their teams.

Thankfully our home league games have excellent kick off times so no one can use the late kick off excuse there. 

Looking at the published fixtures 5 of the 10 home game are late (after 19.30) kick off times. The Scarlets have always had lower attendances for the late lick offs, as its less convenient for visiting fans and indeed Scarlets fans from the outer reaches of the region to attend, particularly with the poor public transport in West Wales.
I accept that we cant have all games at 3.00pm on a Saturday afternoon, but half the home games with late kick offs will seriously dent the finances of the club, something the WRU should be doing everything they can to prevent.


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Why can't we allways have a 3pm Saturday , it's as rediculous as an irish side haveing all games on a Friday evening ...it will never happen 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

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Clermont, fly to Lyon then approx 3hr train journey to Clermont or fly to Paris and train down or train all the way via Eurostar and change in Paris. Obviously allowing for our annual struggles with strikes in France.Confused
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If it’s been previously announced, I’ve missed it. However, today i found out that the Champions Cup i being sponsored by Investec.

Anyone know if this applies to the Challenge as well?
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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

If it’s been previously announced, I’ve missed it. However, today i found out that the Champions Cup i being sponsored by Investec.

Anyone know if this applies to the Challenge as well?
I reckon not Steve. The branding seems to be "Investec Champions Cup" and "EPCR Challenge. Cup"
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Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

If it’s been previously announced, I’ve missed it. However, today i found out that the Champions Cup i being sponsored by Investec.

Anyone know if this applies to the Challenge as well?
I reckon not Steve. The branding seems to be "Investec Champions Cup" and "EPCR Challenge. Cup"
So it’s a separate sponsorship opportunity!!!!

Here’s hoping they find a suitable and deep-pocketed business.
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