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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

 

Hong Kong just recorded the highest pandemic daily death rate on record...if it had a population the size of the US then some 7,000 people would have died the day before yesterday.

In many of the (handful) of countries that went for the 'zero case' philosophy it followed that 'vaccine apathy' prevailed ( only 3 in 10 HK residents over 80 or vaccinated). It also followed that the medical care facilities did not think they needed a provision for extra care.

In these countries (like HK) Omicron has had a very dramatic impact unfortunately.


That's not surprising sadly, as many HK residents don't want to have the vaccine as they already have a fractured relationship with the Chinese government. My best friend lives there & his Mandarin wife is considering leaving Hong Kong because of this.



Not the only one...2 years of not being able to leave the country (or more succinctly having to quarantine for a ridiculous amount of time in a Govt facility when you get back) has ground down a load of my mates too. The final straw was the schools closing again, many have just bailed without a plan as such.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aber-fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 March 2022 at 1:41pm
Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

The precautions did make a difference and still could. we still have some rules left in wales and Ill still wear a snood inside in busy places.

I will continue to nail garlic to my door too LOL

I still wear a mask on the tube but only if there’s other people around. Not convinced it’s doing anything but has basically become a ritual and somewhat polite.

Generally I think we should be taking our masks off 

Really? Mask wearing is one of the most effective and least intrusive measures which can help to reduce transmission of Covid - but you'd happily end it? Maybe first consider the evidence:

At least ten studies have confirmed the benefit of universal masking in community level analyses: in a unified hospital system,47 a German city,48 two U.S. states,49, 50 a panel of 15 U.S. states and Washington, D.C.,51, 52 as well as both Canada53 and the U.S.54-56 nationally. Each analysis demonstrated that, following directives from organizational and political leadership for universal masking, new infections fell significantly. Two of these studies51, 52 and an additional analysis of data from 200 countries that included the U.S.56 also demonstrated reductions in mortality. Another 10-site study showed reductions in hospitalization growth rates following mask mandate implementation.54 A separate series of cross-sectional surveys in the U.S. suggested that a 10% increase in self-reported mask wearing tripled the likelihood of stopping community transmission.57 An economic analysis using U.S. data found that, given these effects, increasing universal masking by 15% could prevent the need for lockdowns and reduce associated losses of up to $1 trillion or about 5% of gross domestic product.52


Or this:

Fourteen of the 15 states with no mask wearing policy for the general public through September reported a high COVID-19 rate. Of the 8 states with at least 75% mask adherence, none reported a high COVID-19 rate. States with the lowest levels of mask adherence were most likely to have high COVID-19 rates in the subsequent month, independent of mask policy or demographic factors. Mean COVID-19 rates for states with at least 75% mask adherence in the preceding month was 109.26 per 100,000 compared to 249.99 per 100,000 for those with less adherence. Our analysis suggests high adherence to mask wearing could be a key factor in reducing the spread of COVID-19. This association between high mask adherence and reduced COVID-19 rates should influence policy makers and public health officials to focus on ways to improve mask adherence across the population in order to mitigate the spread of COVID-19.


As someone who really can't afford to take chances with COVID (nice for you that you can), I appreciate it when others show consideration to those of us in a less-safe state by wearing masks.

I certainly won't be venturing into any enclosed space with strangers without wearing my mask any time soon. And even then...


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Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

The precautions did make a difference and still could. we still have some rules left in wales and Ill still wear a snood inside in busy places.

I will continue to nail garlic to my door too LOL

I still wear a mask on the tube but only if there’s other people around. Not convinced it’s doing anything but has basically become a ritual and somewhat polite.

Generally I think we should be taking our masks off 

Really? Mask wearing is one of the most effective and least intrusive measures which can help to reduce transmission of Covid - but you'd happily end it? Maybe first consider the evidence:

At least ten studies have confirmed the benefit of universal masking in community level analyses: in a unified hospital system,47 a German city,48 two U.S. states,49, 50 a panel of 15 U.S. states and Washington, D.C.,51, 52 as well as both Canada53 and the U.S.54-56 nationally. Each analysis demonstrated that, following directives from organizational and political leadership for universal masking, new infections fell significantly. Two of these studies51, 52 and an additional analysis of data from 200 countries that included the U.S.56 also demonstrated reductions in mortality. Another 10-site study showed reductions in hospitalization growth rates following mask mandate implementation.54 A separate series of cross-sectional surveys in the U.S. suggested that a 10% increase in self-reported mask wearing tripled the likelihood of stopping community transmission.57 An economic analysis using U.S. data found that, given these effects, increasing universal masking by 15% could prevent the need for lockdowns and reduce associated losses of up to $1 trillion or about 5% of gross domestic product.52


Or this:

Fourteen of the 15 states with no mask wearing policy for the general public through September reported a high COVID-19 rate. Of the 8 states with at least 75% mask adherence, none reported a high COVID-19 rate. States with the lowest levels of mask adherence were most likely to have high COVID-19 rates in the subsequent month, independent of mask policy or demographic factors. Mean COVID-19 rates for states with at least 75% mask adherence in the preceding month was 109.26 per 100,000 compared to 249.99 per 100,000 for those with less adherence. Our analysis suggests high adherence to mask wearing could be a key factor in reducing the spread of COVID-19. This association between high mask adherence and reduced COVID-19 rates should influence policy makers and public health officials to focus on ways to improve mask adherence across the population in order to mitigate the spread of COVID-19.


As someone who really can't afford to take chances with COVID (nice for you that you can), I appreciate it when others show consideration to those of us in a less-safe state by wearing masks.

I certainly won't be venturing into any enclosed space with strangers without wearing my mask any time soon. And even then...

I couldn't agree more Aber.Clap
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Generally I think we should be taking our masks off 

So your position is to basically live with the consequences of infection - honest question by the way. 

Yes, this has been my position on this thread since at least October 23rd

People and private businesses can choose how they want to deal with it now. 

I do understand it’s more difficult for people with pre-existing medical conditions, or those going in and out of hospitals for treatment But we’re not at a point where the whole population need to be subjected to any rules because hospital capacity isn’t going to be overwhelmed - not in any plausible scenario.


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Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

The precautions did make a difference and still could. we still have some rules left in wales and Ill still wear a snood inside in busy places.

I will continue to nail garlic to my door too LOL

I still wear a mask on the tube but only if there’s other people around. Not convinced it’s doing anything but has basically become a ritual and somewhat polite.

Generally I think we should be taking our masks off 


As someone who really can't afford to take chances with COVID (nice for you that you can), I appreciate it when others show consideration to those of us in a less-safe state by wearing masks.

I certainly won't be venturing into any enclosed space with strangers without wearing my mask any time soon. And even then...

I sympathise with you, it is difficult and frustrating.

I can only relate that I have a severe nut allergy and when someone eats peanuts near me I struggle for breath. Generally when I see they have bought some or a snickers or something I ask them not to eat it around me or I just move on from wherever I am. 

I don’t want snickers or peanuts to be banned for the sake of me, I just have to adept my life to limit contact with them.
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Sorry if were getting bored of the covid chat, but its been rising a lot in the past few days again
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Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Sorry if were getting bored of the covid chat, but its been rising a lot in the past few days again
5 family members got it this week with my brother in law and sister tested along with other guests prior to a wedding do last saturday night and 26 are positive.
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Sorry if were getting bored of the covid chat, but its been rising a lot in the past few days again
5 family members got it this week with my brother in law and sister tested along with other guests prior to a wedding do last saturday night and 26 are positive.

Some experts believe the vaccine protection is wearing off.  Next boosters don't  start until April sometime. AngryDead
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It didnt even make the headlines yesterday but rates and deaths wee way up on the previous tuesday
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Boris doesn't want us to know, nor do the right wing of the Tory party.
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Originally posted by Sir Duckling Tuft Sir Duckling Tuft wrote:

It didnt even make the headlines yesterday but rates and deaths wee way up on the previous tuesday

Yeah it’s interesting - someone did a little deep dive on it here. Hard to tell why, somewhat concerning. 


2 years to the week since Lockdown 1. Might as well lock down again just for a laugh
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Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Originally posted by Sir Duckling Tuft Sir Duckling Tuft wrote:

It didnt even make the headlines yesterday but rates and deaths wee way up on the previous tuesday

Yeah it’s interesting - someone did a little deep dive on it here. Hard to tell why, somewhat concerning. 


2 years to the week since Lockdown 1. Might as well lock down again just for a laugh
yes 2 years ago you weren't allowed to travel more than 5 miles now you can't afford to.Wink
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Going to ask this in here as it is COVID related.

Does anyone know how people will get the £150 credit on their Council Tax Bill? I have been sent my demand for the year, my house is band B, & there is no mention of it on the demand. 
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Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Originally posted by Sir Duckling Tuft Sir Duckling Tuft wrote:

It didnt even make the headlines yesterday but rates and deaths wee way up on the previous tuesday

Yeah it’s interesting - someone did a little deep dive on it here. Hard to tell why, somewhat concerning. 


2 years to the week since Lockdown 1. Might as well lock down again just for a laugh

As anyone will know, I am not Boris's greatest fan. I also continue to shield - more or less.

The stats are complicated, though - yesterday, I saw a very detailed list of figures (probably on BBC, I can't find them now) which showed that the numbers of patients in hospital in Wales BECAUSE of COVID was quite small (76 or so?) There were more people in hospital for other treatments who also tested positive for COVID ( say, 250+ or so). Only around 9 patients were on ventilators. 

My guess... with most people vaccinated, even those who catch COVID don't get very ill for the most part. (I am immunocompromised, so continue to be super careful for the time being.) 

So, I think the worst is over (despite the government) and FOR MOST PEOPLE they can  be a bit less careful - but PLEASE show consideration for those of us not so lucky. (Don't forget your elderly family members, diabetics etc!)

Each one of us needs to think carefully about not only their own risk profile, but also that of anyone they are close to.
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Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Originally posted by Sir Duckling Tuft Sir Duckling Tuft wrote:

It didnt even make the headlines yesterday but rates and deaths wee way up on the previous tuesday

Yeah it’s interesting - someone did a little deep dive on it here. Hard to tell why, somewhat concerning. 


2 years to the week since Lockdown 1. Might as well lock down again just for a laugh

As anyone will know, I am not Boris's greatest fan. I also continue to shield - more or less.

The stats are complicated, though - yesterday, I saw a very detailed list of figures (probably on BBC, I can't find them now) which showed that the numbers of patients in hospital in Wales BECAUSE of COVID was quite small (76 or so?) There were more people in hospital for other treatments who also tested positive for COVID ( say, 250+ or so). Only around 9 patients were on ventilators. 

My guess... with most people vaccinated, even those who catch COVID don't get very ill for the most part. (I am immunocompromised, so continue to be super careful for the time being.) 

So, I think the worst is over (despite the government) and FOR MOST PEOPLE they can  be a bit less careful - but PLEASE show consideration for those of us not so lucky. (Don't forget your elderly family members, diabetics etc!)

Each one of us needs to think carefully about not only their own risk profile, but also that of anyone they are close to.
Well said. It’s also why ending free LF tests is such a bad idea. Currently I, as a young fit person can go about my day to day life as normal, knowing that if I want to see a frail family member I can just do a quick test, and know I’m probably not infectious. Taking away those free tests means I’d have to either curtail my own socialising, not see a family member, or pay to see them. Hardly a fair situation, especially so for those who can’t afford the tests. 
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New infections up to over 71,000 today.  Rising steadily every day.
Never mind people can be trusted to act responsibly. (Not)
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