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 Posted: 02 February 2026 at 8:07pm |
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Do you think even if Crys sign it...it's going to make a dam bit of difference...but I tell you what it might do, is show a bit of decency and attract some Ex Osprey supporters & aspiring young players from the Neath Swansea valley who'll soon be without a club. |
Yeah it is a little bit silly getting upset about a Scarlet supporter group not putting their name down on a post that will go out. But at the same time what sway do Crys actually have so why not put your name down. |
Why be hypocritical though? Crys 16 clearly think that the best thing to happen is for the Os to go and us to stay. That's why they penned that objection to the St Helens' planning application. You can't do that and then join an Osprey supporter led campaign to keep at 4 without looking totally two-faced. |
Yes valid points. There is still a year to go. A lot could change. Four to three doesn’t necessarily mean that we, in our current form are fully safe. Despite what our owners say.
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Posted: 02 February 2026 at 8:32pm |
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Do you think even if Crys sign it...it's going to make a dam bit of difference...but I tell you what it might do, is show a bit of decency and attract some Ex Osprey supporters & aspiring young players from the Neath Swansea valley who'll soon be without a club. |
Yeah it is a little bit silly getting upset about a Scarlet supporter group not putting their name down on a post that will go out. But at the same time what sway do Crys actually have so why not put your name down. |
Why be hypocritical though? Crys 16 clearly think that the best thing to happen is for the Os to go and us to stay. That's why they penned that objection to the St Helens' planning application. You can't do that and then join an Osprey supporter led campaign to keep at 4 without looking totally two-faced. |
Yes they've pinned their colours to the post and there's no going back....time will tell when the Ospreys go if helped or not.... Hypocritical?
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Posted: 02 February 2026 at 8:56pm |
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Do you think even if Crys sign it...it's going to make a dam bit of difference...but I tell you what it might do, is show a bit of decency and attract some Ex Osprey supporters & aspiring young players from the Neath Swansea valley who'll soon be without a club. |
Yeah it is a little bit silly getting upset about a Scarlet supporter group not putting their name down on a post that will go out. But at the same time what sway do Crys actually have so why not put your name down. |
Yes. I think people over estimate the effect any Crys interventions would have had...I for one think they wouldn't make a bit of difference.... But looking at the big picture...a whole regions supporters, players and future talent is up for grabs...I don't think we've done ourselves any favours.
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Posted: 02 February 2026 at 10:17pm |
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Do you think even if Crys sign it...it's going to make a dam bit of difference...but I tell you what it might do, is show a bit of decency and attract some Ex Osprey supporters & aspiring young players from the Neath Swansea valley who'll soon be without a club. |
Yeah it is a little bit silly getting upset about a Scarlet supporter group not putting their name down on a post that will go out. But at the same time what sway do Crys actually have so why not put your name down. |
Why be hypocritical though? Crys 16 clearly think that the best thing to happen is for the Os to go and us to stay. That's why they penned that objection to the St Helens' planning application. You can't do that and then join an Osprey supporter led campaign to keep at 4 without looking totally two-faced. |
Yes they've pinned their colours to the post and there's no going back....time will tell when the Ospreys go if helped or not.... Hypocritical? |
Crys 16, not you. 
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Posted: 02 February 2026 at 10:32pm |
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[QUOTE=skyblue]Do you think even if Crys sign it...it's going to make a dam bit of difference...but I tell you what it might do, is show a bit of decency and attract some Ex Osprey supporters & aspiring young players from the Neath Swansea valley who'll soon be without a club. |
Yeah it is a little bit silly getting upset about a Scarlet supporter group not putting their name down on a post that will go out. But at the same time what sway do Crys actually have so why not put your name down. |
Why be hypocritical though? Crys 16 clearly think that the best thing to happen is for the Os to go and us to stay. That's why they penned that objection to the St Helens' planning application. You can't do that and then join an Osprey supporter led campaign to keep at 4 without looking totally two-faced. |
Yes they've pinned their colours to the post and there's no going back....time will tell when the Ospreys go if helped or not.... Hypocritical? |
Crys 16, not you. [/QUOTE Lol, no worries. Ultimately what's doomed the Ospreys is: 1) A lack of a stadium 2) Major investors who have pulled out.
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Posted: 02 February 2026 at 10:48pm |
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Bit of an odd thread this, I might be missing the point mind...
If a body like Crys 16 had come out in staunch support of the Ospreys future then I submit there would be outrage and uproar on here...as they haven't there's a mix of faux and real outrage and uproar amongst a few.
My primitive view...
4 horses put in a race that none of them really wanted to enter ...
...2 have been guaranteed 1st or 2nd (so can trot around the track at their leisure, and have no investment on who finishes 3rd or 4th...)
...the other 2 have to fight it out for the last podium place (with the loser knowing that they may never race again)..
...but... the Jockey club of the team that look like it might finish 3rd has caused a stir as it hasn't actively cheered on the horse that could well finish 4th?
Lost me.
The last thing I want to see is the loss of the Ospreys, but I can't see how that's been engineered outside the WRU and Y11...have Y11 signed the petition?
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Posted: 03 February 2026 at 8:06am |
Personally, I believe Crys have taken no small degree of unwarranted abuse over the last few months, both for their stance on St Helens and this non-sensical petition. And given the close relationship they have with the club, you'd have to be a little naive to believe they are acting against the interests of the Scarlets Board. For political reasons, there are clearly things the Board cannot say or do. But Crys can.
In an ideal World, yes, Crys would canvass the opinions of all members, before engaging in any public discussions regarding the club and Welsh rugby. However, until full time paid roles exist, that luxury isn't open to anyone. And matters move at some pace.
The club have made it clear that they agree and understand that three is the way forward, and the actions of Y11 have, in many ways, facilitated this without a tender. Whilst I don't see us losing a tender, it's not an exercise anyone would relish.
Finally, there is a bigger picture here, and one thing I do know, is that every member of the Crys Board are committed to the future of the Scarlets. You might not agree with their stance on certain matters, but if we come through this, then their actions are to be applauded imo. Survival is the only measure of success at the moment, and when we marched in September, the same Os supporters now condemning Crys laughed at us, doing so in the belief they were safe. The Os should look at themselves and their owners, and worry less about Crys
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Posted: 03 February 2026 at 8:24am |
Once a monkey wrote:
Personally, I believe Crys have taken no small degree of unwarranted abuse over the last few months, both for their stance on St Helens and this non-sensical petition. And given the close relationship they have with the club, you'd have to be a little naive to believe they are acting against the interests of the Scarlets Board. For political reasons, there are clearly things the Board cannot say or do. But Crys can.
In an ideal World, yes, Crys would canvass the opinions of all members, before engaging in any public discussions regarding the club and Welsh rugby. However, until full time paid roles exist, that luxury isn't open to anyone. And matters move at some pace.
The club have made it clear that they agree and understand that three is the way forward, and the actions of Y11 have, in many ways, facilitated this without a tender. Whilst I don't see us losing a tender, it's not an exercise anyone would relish.
Finally, there is a bigger picture here, and one thing I do know, is that every member of the Crys Board are committed to the future of the Scarlets. You might not agree with their stance on certain matters, but if we come through this, then their actions are to be applauded imo. Survival is the only measure of success at the moment, and when we marched in September, the same Os supporters now condemning Crys laughed at us, doing so in the belief they were safe. The Os should look at themselves and their owners, and worry less about Crys
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Just a small point i'd like to raise,- "when we marched in September, the same Os supporters now condemning Crys laughed at us, doing so in the belief they were safe." I know genuine rugby people from the Swansea area who are upset about the potential loss of Ospreys or Scarlets, because they care about Welsh rugby as a whole. To bring balance to the argument, I think it's important to take into consideration not everyone is as tribalistic as we may believe.
Edited by skyblue - 03 February 2026 at 8:24am
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Posted: 03 February 2026 at 8:42am |
Once a monkey wrote:
Personally, I believe Crys have taken no small degree of unwarranted abuse over the last few months, both for their stance on St Helens and this non-sensical petition. And given the close relationship they have with the club, you'd have to be a little naive to believe they are acting against the interests of the Scarlets Board. For political reasons, there are clearly things the Board cannot say or do. But Crys can.
In an ideal World, yes, Crys would canvass the opinions of all members, before engaging in any public discussions regarding the club and Welsh rugby. However, until full time paid roles exist, that luxury isn't open to anyone. And matters move at some pace.
The club have made it clear that they agree and understand that three is the way forward, and the actions of Y11 have, in many ways, facilitated this without a tender. Whilst I don't see us losing a tender, it's not an exercise anyone would relish.
Finally, there is a bigger picture here, and one thing I do know, is that every member of the Crys Board are committed to the future of the Scarlets. You might not agree with their stance on certain matters, but if we come through this, then their actions are to be applauded imo. Survival is the only measure of success at the moment, and when we marched in September, the same Os supporters now condemning Crys laughed at us, doing so in the belief they were safe. The Os should look at themselves and their owners, and worry less about Crys
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Share those sentiments OAM. I still believe the letter regarding St Helens was a mistake. They were never going to have any effect on that outcome as the planning was going through regardless. In any war you have to choose your battles.
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Posted: 03 February 2026 at 9:36am |
I saw no merit either. But I'm not privy to the rationale or thinking behind that, and probably not aware of all the facts either.
As I mentioned, it ultimately comes down to survival, and I'd very much like the Os to survive with us. But certainly not at our expense, and clearly there will be only one West team moving forward.
Rumour is Cardiff and Y11 will be done next week. Let's see.
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Posted: 03 February 2026 at 9:43am |
Once a monkey wrote:
I saw no merit either. But I'm not privy to the rationale or thinking behind that, and probably not aware of all the facts either.
As I mentioned, it ultimately comes down to survival, and I'd very much like the Os to survive with us. But certainly not at our expense, and clearly there will be only one West team moving forward.
Rumour is Cardiff and Y11 will be done next week. Let's see. |
Hope so, for everyone's sake. We really need to start to recruit in some areas. Fantastic servants there, but a number are well into their 30's.
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Posted: 03 February 2026 at 9:51am |
Once a monkey wrote:
I saw no merit either. But I'm not privy to the rationale or thinking behind that, and probably not aware of all the facts either.
As I mentioned, it ultimately comes down to survival, and I'd very much like the Os to survive with us. But certainly not at our expense, and clearly there will be only one West team moving forward.
Rumour is Cardiff and Y11 will be done next week. Let's see. |
If that is the case, then the key question for us is whether that means we are done too i.e. is part of that Y11 agreement, the operating licence in which case presumably the Dragons and ourselves will have to have agreed that too.
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Posted: 03 February 2026 at 10:43am |
Once a monkey wrote:
I saw no merit either. But I'm not privy to the rationale or thinking behind that, and probably not aware of all the facts either.
As I mentioned, it ultimately comes down to survival, and I'd very much like the Os to survive with us. But certainly not at our expense, and clearly there will be only one West team moving forward.
Rumour is Cardiff and Y11 will be done next week. Let's see. |
Are you aware whether the WRU and Scarlets have been actively working together to a) agree a mutually beneficial licence agreement and b) for the Scarlets to cease any litigation in respect of the WRU?
To me these points are as important as Y11 buying Cardiff because if we can't agree terms of a licence agreement then our future still isn't safe and the WRU still have this March court date hanging over them.
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Posted: 03 February 2026 at 11:03am |
brookesford wrote:
Once a monkey wrote:
I saw no merit either. But I'm not privy to the rationale or thinking behind that, and probably not aware of all the facts either.
As I mentioned, it ultimately comes down to survival, and I'd very much like the Os to survive with us. But certainly not at our expense, and clearly there will be only one West team moving forward.
Rumour is Cardiff and Y11 will be done next week. Let's see. |
Are you aware whether the WRU and Scarlets have been actively working together to a) agree a mutually beneficial licence agreement and b) for the Scarlets to cease any litigation in respect of the WRU?
To me these points are as important as Y11 buying Cardiff because if we can't agree terms of a licence agreement then our future still isn't safe and the WRU still have this March court date hanging over them. |
A and B are intrinsically linked and it’s a yes to A.
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Posted: 03 February 2026 at 11:07am |
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Once a monkey wrote:
I saw no merit either. But I'm not privy to the rationale or thinking behind that, and probably not aware of all the facts either.
As I mentioned, it ultimately comes down to survival, and I'd very much like the Os to survive with us. But certainly not at our expense, and clearly there will be only one West team moving forward.
Rumour is Cardiff and Y11 will be done next week. Let's see. |
Are you aware whether the WRU and Scarlets have been actively working together to a) agree a mutually beneficial licence agreement and b) for the Scarlets to cease any litigation in respect of the WRU?
To me these points are as important as Y11 buying Cardiff because if we can't agree terms of a licence agreement then our future still isn't safe and the WRU still have this March court date hanging over them. |
A and B are intrinsically linked and it’s a yes to A. |
To be clear Wasp are you saying your understanding is we've been proactively working together with the union to agree the terms of the licence agreement?
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Posted: 03 February 2026 at 12:31pm |
Once a monkey wrote:
I saw no merit either. But I'm not privy to the rationale or thinking behind that, and probably not aware of all the facts either.
As I mentioned, it ultimately comes down to survival, and I'd very much like the Os to survive with us. But certainly not at our expense, and clearly there will be only one West team moving forward.
Rumour is Cardiff and Y11 will be done next week. Let's see. |
Didn't the WRU promise full answers to the players before 6th February ?
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