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philturk wrote: brookesford wrote: Wasp wrote: brookesford wrote: Once a monkey wrote: I saw no merit either. But I'm not privy to the rationale or thinking behind that, and probably not aware of all the facts either.  As I mentioned, it ultimately comes down to survival, and I'd very much like the Os to survive with us. But certainly not at our expense, and clearly there will be only one West team moving forward. Rumour is Cardiff and Y11 will be done next week. Let's see. Are you aware whether the WRU and Scarlets have been actively working together to a) agree a mutually beneficial licence agreement and b) for the Scarlets to cease any litigation in respect of the WRU? To me these points are as important as Y11 buying Cardiff because if we can't agree terms of a licence agreement then our future still isn't safe and the WRU still have this March court date hanging over them. A and B are intrinsically linked and it’s a yes to A.  To be clear Wasp are you saying your understanding is we've been proactively working together with the union to agree the terms of the licence agreement? Unless I've missed something (quite feasible given the almost daily rollercoaster that is Welsh rugby) my latest understanding was the Regions are still awaiting for a revision to the terms for the licences, as it stands I'm led to believe that no Region has applied for a licence due to the unworkable requests (full control of players, management etc) of the WRU

My biggest concern with any agreement with the WRU is that any agreement that sees the WRU with having more control (than they currently have) will result in the regions/licenses not being able to join any form of Anglo English/Welsh league in the future as the Premiership doesn’t like union involvement as that affects the way the league is run.  The Premiership is run separately to the RFU which allows it to negotiate its own sponsorship and TV rights and to keep all the money within the teams competing in the league, unlike the current predicament we find ourselves in, where the unions run the URC and take the money and then pass that on to the regions (not always in full). 

brookesford wrote: Once a monkey wrote: I saw no merit either. But I'm not privy to the rationale or thinking behind that, and probably not aware of all the facts either.  As I mentioned, it ultimately comes down to survival, and I'd very much like the Os to survive with us. But certainly not at our expense, and clearly there will be only one West team moving forward. Rumour is Cardiff and Y11 will be done next week. Let's see. Are you aware whether the WRU and Scarlets have been actively working together to a) agree a mutually beneficial licence agreement and b) for the Scarlets to cease any litigation in respect of the WRU? To me these points are as important as Y11 buying Cardiff because if we can't agree terms of a licence agreement then our future still isn't safe and the WRU still have this March court date hanging over them.

Edited by Once a monkey - 03 February 2026 at 1:58pm