Donald ( Do a Deal) Trump

insidehalf wrote: SA14 wrote: Dunno where the other went.  Or Trump aka Elon’s puppet.  There was another Post on Trump started, but for some reason it was locked, for what reason I don't know. Maybe it wasn't started by one of the "clique" or maybe I'm being a tad over sensitive.  With respect to Trump and his nonsense he spouts. The Americans have form for moving populations out of certain areas that are deemed prime real estate. "Trail of tears" with the native American population come to mind.

name 1 major nation that doesn’t?

any chance we can send musk and his department of efficiency to carmarthshire council? 

Legendinmybathroom wrote: Rob o'r Bont wrote: Amongst the many things that have upset me since Trump took power, two things in particular stand out. There are clearly other even bigger issues, but for me.... The first is how he blamed equality and diversity policy for the tragic crash in Washington, knowing that the Black Hawk Helicopter pilot was female. For her Commander in Chief to come out with such a statement, like Henry VIII ordering the execution sword for Anne Boleyn before the trial, well that’s just despicable. The second is how he accepted that ‘golden pager’ gift from Netanyahu. He may as well have accepted a signed portrait of a  child with shrapnel in their eyes. A sick gesture and not worthy of the leader of the free world.   I fear for the years ahead. Well let’s hope someone checked the golden pager for an explosives and a timer device On the point of tariffs, especially on steel and aluminium, they do import over 50% of these products from Canada and China (most popular importers into the USA. Unfortunately it is not possible to up scale the amount of home produced steel and aluminium at the drop of a hat. It takes years to build smelting works and steel works so by then the demand will become greater and that will just push the price up further.  It’s all counterproductive and will inevitably lead to a significant downturn in the US economy, but hey, you reap what you sow.  They wanted him in, the American people have to suffer the consequences, unfortunately though, Trump or Musk won’t be effected such is their wealth.

I work closely in Africa with US Aid, multiple projects from HIV clinics to buying machinery for American investors in the region. Plug was pulled 2 weeks ago on all current and future projects, staff told to pack up.

As a donor the US Aid project due diligence sets the bar for others. There's no easy money, and the bit that everyone misses is most of their grant funding is recoverable over 3-5 years.

45,000 direct job losses in Kenya, with multiple projects left high and dry with a funding deficit.

The rhetoric around funding the Muppets in Iraq or some such is just a fabrication to meet the agenda by Musk and Trump. They don't like it, so they got rid. Whether they have the right to do that remains to be seen..

US Aid do some amazing work, and their exit just rolls out the carpet for Russia and particularly China, and leaves the humanitarian space in Africa in total chaos.

Trump has moved on from treating countries like corporates to a new game, which looks something like shag, marry, cliff.



The issue looming on the horizon for me, is the potential for a constitutional crisis in the US...judges intervening and ruling against a Trump executive order etc is a real test of said constitution. A narcissist doesn't do well with rejection.




Edited by Wil Chips - 12 February 2025 at 6:44pm

scarletpimp wrote: GPR - Rochester wrote: RR1972 wrote: GPR - Rochester wrote: RR1972 wrote: how can you have a 2 tier state with hamas in charge of palestine  though ?  their manifesto literally calls for the destruction of israel? good luck having neighbours like that Who says Hamas have to rule Gaza. There are moderate Palestinian leaders prepared to negotiate. Hamas may well still be around but if a two state solution were found they would be on the outside looking in & if they persisted in terror attacks would be become the enemy of both sides.   how do the moderates get rid of hanas?  they have a military grip on gaza? and have huge backing in many arab nations, i get the sentiment and i agree with you 100 per cent but the reality makes things seem very unlikely They get rid of Hamas by joining Israel backed by USA as part of the two state solution. Hamas will have to make a decision accept a genuine two state solution in exchange for peace & dropping their anti Israel stance or risk isolation.  I would hope that a genuine two state solution accompanied by Internationally backed rebuilding of Gaza & the West Bank would convince most surrounding Arab nations that peace was preferable. A long shot I accept but the alternative doesn't bear thinking about.  Again I do'nt want to sound like a parrot,  but I GPR is spot on again with his comments on the above.  I understand RR,  having served in the middle east  maybe coming up against fanatics like Hamas, who as we know are capable of appalling atrocities. This shouldn't colour the whole attitude to the region however with divisive and narrow  minded thinking, as millions of homeless displaced Palestinians are now at the mercy of the Israelis and Trump.  When the western allies  totally flattened  Dresden,  and other such places, in WW2, they took responsibility to re-build.  Will Israel accept the same responsibility to rebuild Gazza, to put right the carnage they have created, and the 50.,000 lives they have destroyed  Instead their friend  their  friend  Trump, wants to turn the placec into a resort to resemble  Florida, once the Palestinians have been shipped out

Thanks for the input Wil. Reading some of this really does send a shiver down my spine. How on earth have American citizens allowed two individuals as diplomatically dangerous as Musk & Trump to end up with so much power. For sure the judicial system will do its best to fight the excesses but real government will become stymied & the normal day to day lives of Americans will become poorer.

Absolutely spot on about Trump wanting America first. Bits of what he applies are logical and needed.

His foreign policy interactions are by and large clumsy, badly thought through, and if applied lay the red carpet out to the likes of China.

A year ago the industrial parks in Kenya had steady growth, multiple country.

This year there are 500,000 square meters of build space going up. All Chinese. The way they execute a plan is something to behold. Pre fabricated in China, shipped, and built ready to employ in less than 6 months.

The US are sleepwalking in comparison.

As for the country they move in to - it's a bus crash of pay offs, lack of regulatory compliance, and a total lack of sensitisation to the citizens they are now employing.

Wil Chips wrote: I raise you .. US Aid spent $50m on sending condoms to Gaza...Gaza for God's sake' Would that be Gaza province in Mozambique by any chance Mr Musk? -- part of the strategy to fight the spread of AIDS? or 'US Aid gave funds to the BBC..who are state sponsored media' Actually US Aid, along with a dozen other NGO's fund Media Action...which has some links to the BBC but is a totally separate charitable entity and reliant on NGO funding for their global outreach. or 'US Aid funded convicted sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein's foundation'. In fact it was paid to namesake Jeff Epstein, CEO of the Kaiser Foundations ( hospital funds) It was even funnier as the original Epstein died in 2019, and this money was moved in 2023. Fact checking is great fun.