Drovers finish bottom but do they stay up

so llandovery coll is on the doorstep then yes?!

it will hardly be a major investment will it!? they've done in it coleg sir gaer and a few other colleges, right?

surely you'd agree that this would be a good thing though?! it would mean there'd be more young talent in the region playing regularly.

don't think there was any need for your last comment btw....

fujitsu wrote: so llandovery coll is on the doorstep then yes?! it will hardly be a major investment will it!? they've done in it coleg sir gaer and a few other colleges, right? surely you'd agree that this would be a good thing though?! it would mean there'd be more young talent in the region playing regularly. don't think there was any need for your last comment btw....

But this is stereotypical of Drovers, Quins fans though.. we want what you got, but we didn't do anything about it 50 years ago, so you'll pay for it now.....

The scarlets use the facilities at the Graig complex and i bet they have to pay for it as well.........

oh god I give up!

i don't want what you've got! just a bit of it maybe!

just that we are now in regional rugby and i support the SCARLETS but i believe we must have more than 1 strong feeder club in the premiership! Llanelli obviously have the facilites now but over time some investment in other clubs would benefit the whole region. you can't deny that other teams apart from Llanelli RFC have conributed to the Scalets in some way.

when the scarlets move to pemberton. where will llanelli play? will they be able to play there? because isn't it then owned by the Scarlets and not Llanelli RFC.

i want llanelli to be strong but i believe we can have other stong teams in this region.

no point going on about stuff 50 years ago! This is now professional and regional rugby.

I think the club will be looking to secure their short term future at the moment before committing to the long term. Once the new place is sorted and we're ok, I think the club will definitely be looking to invest a little more time into areas like Llandovery, Carmarthen etc.

At the moment though, it makes alot more sense to get the players who look like they could make the step up playing in Llanelli with all the facilities readily available.

Llandovery college, the Drovers, Athletic, Quins, Bro myrddin etc. have all contributed to the success of the Scarlets, so rightly the Scarlets do and will continue to support what these places do. Hopefully as the Region grows they will be able to invest more and provide facilities, but the fact still remains that the Scarlets will have the best facilities available at Stradey and the Academy and it makes sense to bring the talent closer to that, and the places mentioned above should be proud of their contributions. In time its inevitable that the rugby facilities will improve with the aid of the Scarlets, but give it a chance.

Fair play Salmidach, a totally arrogant viewpoint there. Llandovery do not need help in upgrading their facilities, they have one of the finest grounds in the Premier and run a very good business there. Diversifying away from the main focus of the club which is rugby. So don't go saying Llandovery is a begging club because you could not be further from the truth and I think your piece saying that stinks.

That club is run by a very intelligent and commited bunch of people and maybe you should spend some time appreciating that work instead of lookng down on the club as if they are second class citizens. Yes they are bottom of the league, yes they have not got the history of Llanelli. But remember they run a thriving business in a small rural area and they are taking part in welsh club rugbies showpiece event on Saturday, the Konica Minolta cup final against Cardiff. And who did they knock out in the semi final? So you think about that and get off your high horse and show them a little respect.

Salmidach,

Your selection of comments on this thread are almost comparable to the rantings of a madman. Eery time someone makes a reasonble suggestion or comment, you shoot it down with sarcasm (the lowest form of wit by the way) or by going back to the old rantings of the fact that Llanelli RFC Ltd own the Scarlets. TIMES HAVE CHANGED SALMIDACH. - THE PRO ERA IS IN FULL SWING AND WELSH RUGBY HAS MOVED ON FOR THE BETTER.

You seem very threatened by any other semi pro side competing with Llanelli RFC in the premiership. Face it bachan, in this professional era Llanelli RFC are now no better or at any higher level than Llandovery RFC, Glamorgan Wanderers RFC, Bedwas RFC, Cross Keys RFC and Maesteg RFC - ie teams that you and many other Llanelli residents have looked down upon from the ivory tower of Stradey over the years.

Please accept that rugby in West Wales is far different now than oit was 10 years ago and please try to debate your points without resorting to unfunny sarcasm, or comments about what happened 50 years ago in West Walian rugby.

salmidach wrote: Personally Dai Baker, there is only one team I'm concerned about and that is the scarlets, llanelli RFC should continue as a dev team, so should Llandovery and every other team in the prem and below.... TBH, i really couldn't care if the drovers stayed up or down, the Scarlets/Old Llanelli RFC have lived without them for years and I'm sorry I say we don't need them now.... Llanelli RFC in the olden days took the cream from the crop and the Scarlets will continue to do so now.... I personally think that the Premiership teams should have an age cap E.G. you can play 1 player over 30, 2 from 27 to 30 and then the rest must be 26 or under.... The whole system is wrong and that is why Neath have in some ways fallen out with the Hairsprays, they are not using the prem as a dev league, but continue to use it just to win a worthless league and cup..... Llanelli RFC now are nothing more than a renamed U21's with the age cap removed.......

With regards to the first highlighted point - i agree wholly. I have always been a Scarlets supporter primarily and my first priority now is the Llanelli Scarlets and was previously the former Llanelli RFC pre-regionalised side. When the regionisation happened i then decided to support Quins over the newly created Llanelli RFc.

Regarding the second highlighted point - this is where i think we will need to agree to disagree! I personally feel that in the next 2/3 years the acadmey will start to produce too much talent for 1 premiership side to be able to develop and therefore feel a second premiership side with proper training faciilities needs to be created in either Llandovery (in partnership with Llandovery Coll), Carmarthen (in partnership with Trinity Coll), or possibly Pembs (in partnership with Pembrokeshire Coll).

With regards your point about the Scarlets taking the cream of the crop - this has always been the case and as you say will continue to do so, and quite rightly as the Scarlets (and the previous entity of Llanelli RFC) will always be a step above the other clubs from West Wales.

Cannot argue against any of the points re new rules within the premiership - we need to eradicate such teams as Neath who are denying the youngsters from the Ospreys game time in order for ppl like Arwel Blydi Thomas to play.