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Posted: 22 February 2023 at 8:32am |
I post this in hope rather than expectation but have been pleasantly surprised in the past by how much knowledge lurks on these boards. My 5 year old springer spaniel has had a tough time with elbow displasia having 3 ops already to pin his faulty elbows.
We now face problems with severe arthritis setting in in particular to his left leg which is very lame. Currently we have seen a specialist vet at the Ralph practice in Marlow & we are on a course of PRP ( plasma rich platelets) with the 2nd final injections happening on Monday.
We are very interested to hear about any similar experiences and treatments undertaken by any members as trying to wade through the number of options for relieving the effects of arthritis is quite onerous. Many thanks in advance.
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Posted: 22 February 2023 at 9:55am |
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Not related to this exactly but i had a dog (daschund /terrier mix) she had arthiritus in her knee (they are do tend to carry weight) i had to literally massage her damaged knees and we used to let her swim up and down the bath in warm water. That along side anti inflamatories and joint suppliments seemed to help. The size of your dog may make the bath thing a no goer though. Hope they get bettet seeing a pet in pain is heart breaking
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Posted: 22 February 2023 at 10:38am |
 GPR - Rochester wrote:
I post this in hope rather than expectation but have been pleasantly surprised in the past by how much knowledge lurks on these boards. My 5 year old springer spaniel has had a tough time with elbow displasia having 3 ops already to pin his faulty elbows.
We now face problems with severe arthritis setting in in particular to his left leg which is very lame. Currently we have seen a specialist vet at the Ralph practice in Marlow & we are on a course of PRP ( plasma rich platelets) with the 2nd final injections happening on Monday.
We are very interested to hear about any similar experiences and treatments undertaken by any members as trying to wade through the number of options for relieving the effects of arthritis is quite onerous. Many thanks in advance. |
Had two Newfoundlands ...both 70kg each, one developed displasia when she was two bless her...had full hip replacement and she was like new .....giant breeds like Newfoundlands suffer bigstyle with their joints. Premium foods help not the mass produced junk, and having a superb vet is another...she had her operation in Swansea by the main Volvo garage by the hip replacement specialist in Wales...she was insured and cost a fortune but they are worth it Food is crucial my friend.
Best of luck
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Posted: 22 February 2023 at 10:47am |
lofty evans wrote:
GPR - Rochester wrote:
I post this in hope rather than expectation but have been pleasantly surprised in the past by how much knowledge lurks on these boards. My 5 year old springer spaniel has had a tough time with elbow displasia having 3 ops already to pin his faulty elbows.
We now face problems with severe arthritis setting in in particular to his left leg which is very lame. Currently we have seen a specialist vet at the Ralph practice in Marlow & we are on a course of PRP ( plasma rich platelets) with the 2nd final injections happening on Monday. Bad breeding. Poor genetics. Bad breeders is the problem.
We are very interested to hear about any similar experiences and treatments undertaken by any members as trying to wade through the number of options for relieving the effects of arthritis is quite onerous. Many thanks in advance. |
Had two Newfoundlands ...both 70kg each, one developed displasia when she was two bless her...had full hip replacement and she was like new .....giant breeds like Newfoundlands suffer bigstyle with their joints. Premium foods help not the mass produced junk, and having a superb vet is another...she had her operation in Swansea by the main Volvo garage by the hip replacement specialist in Wales...she was insured and cost a fortune but they are worth it Food is crucial my friend.
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Posted: 22 February 2023 at 10:47am |
We had a lab cross rotty ....he was born without hips , only muscle and sinue kept him going , the vet offered us to put the dog down but we decided against it ...He went on metacalm at the age of 4 months and he had to have blood tests every 12 weeks .... We looked after him , with a few scares until he died at the age of 14 ..... When talking to the vet , the cost of the medicine and blood tests. Came to over 31k , but wouldn't have it any other way Btw the insurance wouldn't cover him because they stated that labs have hip problems so it was a known problem ....bastards
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Posted: 22 February 2023 at 10:51am |
Oracle wrote:
We had a lab cross rotty ....he was born without hips , only muscle and sinue kept him going , the vet offered us to put the dog down but we decided against it ...He went on metacalm at the age of 4 months and he had to have blood tests every 12 weeks ....We looked after him , with a few scares until he died at the age of 14 ..... When talking to the vet , the cost of the medicine and blood tests. Came to over 31k , but wouldn't have it any other way Btw the insurance wouldn't cover him because they stated that labs have hip problems so it was a known problem ....bastards |
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Posted: 22 February 2023 at 11:42am |
lofty evans wrote:
GPR - Rochester wrote:
I post this in hope rather than expectation but have been pleasantly surprised in the past by how much knowledge lurks on these boards. My 5 year old springer spaniel has had a tough time with elbow displasia having 3 ops already to pin his faulty elbows.
We now face problems with severe arthritis setting in in particular to his left leg which is very lame. Currently we have seen a specialist vet at the Ralph practice in Marlow & we are on a course of PRP ( plasma rich platelets) with the 2nd final injections happening on Monday.
We are very interested to hear about any similar experiences and treatments undertaken by any members as trying to wade through the number of options for relieving the effects of arthritis is quite onerous. Many thanks in advance. |
Had two Newfoundlands ...both 70kg each, one developed displasia when she was two bless her...had full hip replacement and she was like new .....giant breeds like Newfoundlands suffer bigstyle with their joints. Premium foods help not the mass produced junk, and having a superb vet is another...she had her operation in Swansea by the main Volvo garage by the hip replacement specialist in Wales...she was insured and cost a fortune but they are worth it Food is crucial my friend.
Best of luck |
Thanks Lofty. I agree with the food part. Ours are on a raw food diet.
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Posted: 22 February 2023 at 11:44am |
Oracle wrote:
We had a lab cross rotty ....he was born without hips , only muscle and sinue kept him going , the vet offered us to put the dog down but we decided against it ...He went on metacalm at the age of 4 months and he had to have blood tests every 12 weeks ....We looked after him , with a few scares until he died at the age of 14 ..... When talking to the vet , the cost of the medicine and blood tests. Came to over 31k , but wouldn't have it any other way Btw the insurance wouldn't cover him because they stated that labs have hip problems so it was a known problem ....bastards |
Great story Oracle. Certainly a challenge for sure but I totally agree they are worth every penny. Our lad is on metacalm at the moment.
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Posted: 22 February 2023 at 11:59am |
Oracle wrote:
We had a lab cross rotty ....he was born without hips , only muscle and sinue kept him going , the vet offered us to put the dog down but we decided against it ...He went on metacalm at the age of 4 months and he had to have blood tests every 12 weeks ....We looked after him , with a few scares until he died at the age of 14 ..... When talking to the vet , the cost of the medicine and blood tests. Came to over 31k , but wouldn't have it any other way Btw the insurance wouldn't cover him because they stated that labs have hip problems so it was a known problem ....bastards |
Oracle - if you don't mind me asking were the regular blood tests to check on the liver/kidney functions as he was taking metacalm for so long?
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Posted: 22 February 2023 at 12:14pm |
GPR - Rochester wrote:
Oracle wrote:
We had a lab cross rotty ....he was born without hips , only muscle and sinue kept him going , the vet offered us to put the dog down but we decided against it ...He went on metacalm at the age of 4 months and he had to have blood tests every 12 weeks ....We looked after him , with a few scares until he died at the age of 14 ..... When talking to the vet , the cost of the medicine and blood tests. Came to over 31k , but wouldn't have it any other way Btw the insurance wouldn't cover him because they stated that labs have hip problems so it was a known problem ....bastards |
Oracle - if you don't mind me asking were the regular blood tests to check on the liver/kidney functions as he was taking metacalm for so long? There is no point buddy. If metacam is the only thing to keep your dog going why waste money on tests. |
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Posted: 22 February 2023 at 12:34pm |
Gareth, good luck with your springer’s treatment and recovery.
Our 13/14 yr old collie is on Metacam for his arthritis and it eases his aches so he can get round and run about without much issue. Waking up and getting up off the floor takes longer than it did though, then aren’t a lot of us like that now.
Our late working strain cocker spaniel had a crusty nose for a long time. It was treated with little will to investigate at our local vets. Only when having his pre return to UK check at our French vets did we get a very firm, “You need to demand that this is investigated”.
After more fobbing off with anti-inflammatories and something else, we insisted on a referral to the Cambridge Univ Vets Hospital. It saved his life from the neglect, lack of competence and disinterest of the local vets.
He was multi-symptomatic and 2 sets of 2 week stays in Cambridge gave him another 2 years of pretty good life, albeit no longer allowed meat and had daily tablets. No issues with the insurers, thankfully. Those two stays cost about 15K in total.
Hector had Hyperparathyroidism. A third of one of his two thyroids had calcified and that was removed. There was a lump on one of the hyperparathyroids that needed removing and there was something else that escapes me for the moment.
The treatment was brilliant and you got a daily phone call, even if they weren’t sure what was going on, as was the case initially. It took about 3 days to diagnose the full extent of things.
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Posted: 22 February 2023 at 1:09pm |
Llanelli1963 wrote:
GPR - Rochester wrote:
Oracle wrote:
We had a lab cross rotty ....he was born without hips , only muscle and sinue kept him going , the vet offered us to put the dog down but we decided against it ...He went on metacalm at the age of 4 months and he had to have blood tests every 12 weeks ....We looked after him , with a few scares until he died at the age of 14 ..... When talking to the vet , the cost of the medicine and blood tests. Came to over 31k , but wouldn't have it any other way Btw the insurance wouldn't cover him because they stated that labs have hip problems so it was a known problem ....bastards |
Oracle - if you don't mind me asking were the regular blood tests to check on the liver/kidney functions as he was taking metacalm for so long? There is no point buddy. If metacam is the only thing to keep your dog going why waste money on tests. |
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Well the answer to that 1963 would be that metacam is not the only anti inflammatory available.
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Posted: 22 February 2023 at 1:12pm |
Eastern outpost wrote:
Gareth, good luck with your springer’s treatment and recovery.
Our 13/14 yr old collie is on Metacam for his arthritis and it eases his aches so he can get round and run about without much issue. Waking up and getting up off the floor takes longer than it did though, then aren’t a lot of us like that now.
Our late working strain cocker spaniel had a crusty nose for a long time. It was treated with little will to investigate at our local vets. Only when having his pre return to UK check at our French vets did we get a very firm, “You need to demand that this is investigated”.
After more fobbing off with anti-inflammatories and something else, we insisted on a referral to the Cambridge Univ Vets Hospital. It saved his life from the neglect, lack of competence and disinterest of the local vets.
He was multi-symptomatic and 2 sets of 2 week stays in Cambridge gave him another 2 years of pretty good life, albeit no longer allowed meat and had daily tablets. No issues with the insurers, thankfully. Those two stays cost about 15K in total.
Hector had Hyperparathyroidism. A third of one of his two thyroids had calcified and that was removed. There was a lump on one of the hyperparathyroids that needed removing and there was something else that escapes me for the moment.
The treatment was brilliant and you got a daily phone call, even if they weren’t sure what was going on, as was the case initially. It took about 3 days to diagnose the full extent of things. |
Thanks EO - already had good feedback which has proven very worthwhile if only to confirm the benefits of metacam. Hector certainly went through hell by the sound of it. As a matter of interest is that vets in Cambridge anything to do with Noel Fitzpatrick of TV series fame.
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Posted: 22 February 2023 at 5:57pm |
GPR - Rochester wrote:
Eastern outpost wrote:
Gareth, good luck with your springer’s treatment and recovery.
Our 13/14 yr old collie is on Metacam for his arthritis and it eases his aches so he can get round and run about without much issue. Waking up and getting up off the floor takes longer than it did though, then aren’t a lot of us like that now.
Our late working strain cocker spaniel had a crusty nose for a long time. It was treated with little will to investigate at our local vets. Only when having his pre return to UK check at our French vets did we get a very firm, “You need to demand that this is investigated”.
After more fobbing off with anti-inflammatories and something else, we insisted on a referral to the Cambridge Univ Vets Hospital. It saved his life from the neglect, lack of competence and disinterest of the local vets.
He was multi-symptomatic and 2 sets of 2 week stays in Cambridge gave him another 2 years of pretty good life, albeit no longer allowed meat and had daily tablets. No issues with the insurers, thankfully. Those two stays cost about 15K in total.
Hector had Hyperparathyroidism. A third of one of his two thyroids had calcified and that was removed. There was a lump on one of the hyperparathyroids that needed removing and there was something else that escapes me for the moment.
The treatment was brilliant and you got a daily phone call, even if they weren’t sure what was going on, as was the case initially. It took about 3 days to diagnose the full extent of things. |
Thanks EO - already had good feedback which has proven very worthwhile if only to confirm the benefits of metacam. Hector certainly went through hell by the sound of it. As a matter of interest is that vets in Cambridge anything to do with Noel Fitzpatrick of TV series fame. |
Cambridge University Vets School and no mention of Noel Fitzpatrick that we heard or saw.
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Posted: 22 February 2023 at 6:00pm |
Eastern outpost wrote:
GPR - Rochester wrote:
Eastern outpost wrote:
Gareth, good luck with your springer’s treatment and recovery.
Our 13/14 yr old collie is on Metacam for his arthritis and it eases his aches so he can get round and run about without much issue. Waking up and getting up off the floor takes longer than it did though, then aren’t a lot of us like that now.
Our late working strain cocker spaniel had a crusty nose for a long time. It was treated with little will to investigate at our local vets. Only when having his pre return to UK check at our French vets did we get a very firm, “You need to demand that this is investigated”.
After more fobbing off with anti-inflammatories and something else, we insisted on a referral to the Cambridge Univ Vets Hospital. It saved his life from the neglect, lack of competence and disinterest of the local vets.
He was multi-symptomatic and 2 sets of 2 week stays in Cambridge gave him another 2 years of pretty good life, albeit no longer allowed meat and had daily tablets. No issues with the insurers, thankfully. Those two stays cost about 15K in total.
Hector had Hyperparathyroidism. A third of one of his two thyroids had calcified and that was removed. There was a lump on one of the hyperparathyroids that needed removing and there was something else that escapes me for the moment.
The treatment was brilliant and you got a daily phone call, even if they weren’t sure what was going on, as was the case initially. It took about 3 days to diagnose the full extent of things. |
Thanks EO - already had good feedback which has proven very worthwhile if only to confirm the benefits of metacam. Hector certainly went through hell by the sound of it. As a matter of interest is that vets in Cambridge anything to do with Noel Fitzpatrick of TV series fame. |
Cambridge University Vets School and no mention of Noel Fitzpatrick that we heard or saw. |
Noel is a god....I know a veterinary nurse who cannot speak more highly of him...he truly adores animals....it shows.
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Posted: 22 February 2023 at 11:35pm |
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The vet put my Springer on metacam for her arthritis but with she didn't really get on with it so I now give her joint tablets and hemp oil every day. Not suggesting you take him off the metacam but the tablets and oil have made a diference.
Edited by Scarlet O'Hara - 22 February 2023 at 11:36pm
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