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    Posted: 10 January 2024 at 8:21am
It seems the raft of players leaving the regions or the players rumoured to be leaving is growing day by day

To try and keep up with the rollercoaster that is Welsh rugby, I thought I'd kick this thread off for us to attempt to keep up with it

Confirmed
North to Provence
Tomos to Gloucester

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Hardy to Blues (heard this one quite a lot lately, hope it's not right)
Johnny Williams to England/France
Lousi to.....
Grady to England / France
Leon Brown to England
Wainwright to France


Incoming players....
I fear this section may require some Google searches to identify who they are when/if confirmed

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Welcome to the south sea island Wales the happy hunting ground for England /France Confused
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Originally posted by philturk philturk wrote:

It seems the raft of players leaving the regions or the players rumoured to be leaving is growing day by day

To try and keep up with the rollercoaster that is Welsh rugby, I thought I'd kick this thread off for us to attempt to keep up with it

Confirmed
North to Provence
Tomos to Gloucester

Rumoured
Hardy to Blues (heard this one quite a lot lately, hope it's not right)
Johnny Williams to England/France
Lousi to.....
Grady to England / France
Leon Brown to England
Wainwright to France


Incoming players....
I fear this section may require some Google searches to identify who they are when/if confirmed

Hearing 
Hardy To Cardiff almost certain now Tomos has gone
Johnny W to Gloucester 
Lousi to Moana Pasifika
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fscarlet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2024 at 9:49am
I'll be a bit gutted for Johnny if he leaves, he's looked sharp in a few games - Munster away springs to mind but sadly he has been riddled by injury.
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

I'll be a bit gutted for Johnny if he leaves, he's looked sharp in a few games - Munster away springs to mind but sadly he has been riddled by injury.

If he goes it will be with my blessing.Thumbs Up
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The Scarlets are managing a £3.5M reduction in WRU funding, plus increased loan repayments and reduced TV income. This inevitably has impacted negatively on the on field product, which will consequently reduce match attendances, competition income and attractiveness to sponsors.
It is inevitable that pretty much all highly paid players will be released at the end of their contracts in an attempt to make ends meet. Its going to be a tough time for Welsh rugby!
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Weve lost sampson ken looks all but gone to. So next year well likely lose louisi fifita hardy jonny mac jonny w and scott w and have to replace then with academy players. We got no chance of doing anything under those conditions. The wru extra funding  of thecdragons has shafted the rest of weksh rugby

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I’ll be gutted too, he seems to be one of the only players we have who can make it over the gain line 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Why Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2024 at 11:22am
Hardy would be a loss but makes sense to give Archie lots of game time he needs and will not impact on n us so much during six nations.
We certainly will need to recruit some front five forwards step forward SA coach and Fitzpatrick. 
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Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Hardy would be a loss but makes sense to give Archie lots of game time he needs and will not impact on n us so much during six nations.
We certainly will need to recruit some front five forwards step forward SA coach and Fitzpatrick. 

You can forget Fitzpatrick - total show pony.
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Hardy would be a loss but makes sense to give Archie lots of game time he needs and will not impact on n us so much during six nations.
We certainly will need to recruit some front five forwards step forward SA coach and Fitzpatrick. 

You can forget Fitzpatrick - total show pony.

Totally agree there.
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Hope Johnny Williams stays.
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Weve lost sampson ken looks all but gone to. So next year well likely lose louisi fifita hardy jonny mac jonny w and scott w and have to replace then with academy players. We got no chance of doing anything under those conditions. The wru extra funding  of thecdragons has shafted the rest of weksh rugby

Don't forget Foxy. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Hardy would be a loss but makes sense to give Archie lots of game time he needs and will not impact on n us so much during six nations.
We certainly will need to recruit some front five forwards step forward SA coach and Fitzpatrick. 

You can forget Fitzpatrick - total show pony.
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Weve lost sampson ken looks all but gone to. So next year well likely lose louisi fifita hardy jonny mac jonny w and scott w and have to replace then with academy players. We got no chance of doing anything under those conditions. The wru extra funding  of thecdragons has shafted the rest of weksh rugby

Don't forget Foxy. 
 hasn’t he got another year?
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Afternoon all, further to my post last week which was welcomed by most (Lofty Evans amongst them) and some who thanked me privately, they asked that any future information be shared, for all on here to dissect and use to draw conclusions on the situation at our club. 

Fifita and Lousi (as previously mentioned) have informed the club of their intention to leave at the end of the season (Lousi has requested an early release in Feb / March which is currently being considered. It now transpires, this is not only because of the situation at the club, but also the treatment of Sione Kalamafoni, a player who quite frankly carried us at stages during his time at the club. The Tongan's are a very loyal bunch and have not taken kindly to the treatment he has received and the derogatory offer that he was made both before and after his French move collapsed. Who was responsible for that?

The club have, last week and this, held urgent meetings to try and resolve the issue of giving Peel an extended three year contract which was signed only a few weeks ago. They are desperate for this not be leaked due to the backlash they will face. This is to the point of even not disclosing it to their usual outlet (reporter at the WM) and instead, next November, breaking it during the Autumn internationals that Peel has signed a two year extension....which will of course not be the case. They really are at a loss of how to handle this as it was not envisaged that we would lose to Black Lion, Ospreys and Dragons!

Hardy has signed for Cardiff.

Basham was last week shown around the facilities at PYS and is expected to sign in the next week or so.

Question to forum members....what would you expect to the minimum criteria / skill set of a GM of Rugby? Surely they would have at  bare minimum, either had to have played and / or coached the game to a reasonable standard so that he / she has a rugby background or alternatively, have an excellent business background with clear view and plan on how best to run this particular arm of the company? What does ours have? Unless I'm grossly mistaken, he was a PE teacher at Coleg Sir Gar, from that he was then given the responsibility of running the academy, a role which he failed badly at until the appointment of the Academy Director which was facilitated by Gareth Jenkins, as he could clearly see the faults which needed urgent attention! He was then moved into a secretarial role for Pivac and Short, and at the end of their tenure, he became GM of rugby.....since which time we have seen a steady decline of our great club; something that cannot continue under any circumstances!! The term 'self preservation' springs to mind where he is concerned!!

I'm off to pack for Clermont, so wish you all a great weekend if you're travelling and hopefully we can put some well overdue respect back into the jersey.

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