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    Posted: 05 June 2024 at 6:40pm
Watching Roland Garros, a comment from Mrs EO about Mats Wilander has prompted this thread.

What she liked about Mats, and I’ll skip a few of the compliments some of which are from a historical perspective, boiled down to “how it was never about him”. It was always about the players involved. He was completely focussed. He might indulge in a bit of his old playing history but it’s never more than when he’s with another courtside former pro.

Who on the rugby commentating circuit can you say the same about? Not all of the list will infuse enjoyment, anticipation and positivity into their audience. If you’re after objectivity, then the list narrows.

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Benjamin Kayser - scores on all fronts superbly, even in a second language

Ben Kay is usually pretty good. 

The classic car company namesake is extremely good, yet torpedoes his high-standing by completely losing any objectivity he might have previously expressed when a team, or country from which the team originates, isn’t winning and/or gets an unfavourable (maybe big) decision against them.

In tennis, Mats Wilander and many of the Eurosport team are pretty good at this.

Most of the URC commentators and pundits betray their roots far too easily, they’d lose more than their shirts at poke.

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The newish welsh commentator who did Llandovery's last 2 games and the English Commentary on S4c on Saturday comes across as a right arrogant know it all.

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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

The newish welsh commentator who did Llandovery's last 2 games and the English Commentary on S4c on Saturday comes across as a right arrogant know it all.

Until the last 6 words, i was anticipating a compliment.

Given the naysayer vibe and Ammanford statue, I wondered if you’d been hacked.

Glad I can relax Wink
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Should have put in brackets(compliments only) in the thread title Wink
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Bryan Habana is a class pundit, I -unfairly- assumed he'd have a big ego (he raced a bloomin cheetah once to prove how fast he was, you can't really blame me) but whenever hes' been on the commentary he has been humble, funny, insightful and unbiased.

Struggle to think of many good ones in general tbh, in the world of soccerball Ally McCoist is really good - one of the few who doesn't just hold a massive boner for one of the big prem teams and actually talks about the game in front of him.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Wil Chips Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 June 2024 at 8:28am
John Barclay and Sam Warburton have the intellect, vocabulary and credentials (and are neutral enough to not put other countrymen off.)
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Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

John Barclay and Sam Warburton have the intellect, vocabulary and credentials (and are neutral enough to not put other countrymen off.)
They quality aren’t they and Biggar will do well as he is of a similar disposition. Still miss Brian and Eddie mind . Pitbull is ruthless and direct on Social Media. 
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Originally posted by Lincscarlet Lincscarlet wrote:

Bryan Habana is a class pundit, I -unfairly- assumed he'd have a big ego (he raced a bloomin cheetah once to prove how fast he was, you can't really blame me) but whenever hes' been on the commentary he has been humble, funny, insightful and unbiased.

Struggle to think of many good ones in general tbh, in the world of soccerball Ally McCoist is really good - one of the few who doesn't just hold a massive boner for one of the big prem teams and actually talks about the game in front of him.

There's a great clip of him recently where he was in the stadium pre match & some music came on & he said "Oh is this (I can't remember the name of the rock band)? IF it is, it's going to go off. It is (insert band name here)"
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Don't you all miss Eddie ?
I do. His understated, laconic and clear style will be missed by all (most) of us.
And he spoke with knowledge of, and ability to play, the game.
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Was impressed by Courtney Lawes on today’s coverage of England v SA.

He was more eloquent than I’d expected. He also stood his ground very firmly from a point of realism and looking to progress when Ugo Monye was busy whingeing.

Bluntly, the SA side picked a good few second choices in their starting side this week. They played poorly, relative to their usual standards. Their discipline was poor and kept England and the commentators on the edge of their seats.

At least Borthwick changed his subs policy and ignored the clock and pre-planning.

Austin Healey whinged when England weren’t getting the ref decisions and even Ben Kay joined in at one point. Austin’s infectious, after all, so even the most objective succumb.

The games within the game were very entertaining and meanwhile, the forecast outcome happened maybe without quickening the pulse of the neutral supporter.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RR1972 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 November 2024 at 8:45pm
lawes hartley like a lot of welsh pantomine villians seem nice guys in real life. reading  danny cares  book seems a top bloke to. as a rule i think the biggest gob shyes are irish not english

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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

lawes hartley like a lot of welsh pantomine villians seem nice guys in real life. reading  danny cares  book seems a top bloke to. as a rule i think the biggest gob shyes are irish not english
Subject to clarification of your typo, you might have a lot of support. Wink

My point was (aiming to be) about Lawes being more realistic than seasoned journo Monye whose pro playing days are somewhat distant.

Lawes and Hartley in the pundit role add value. They come across as more objective than Healey, although he has his plus points his weaknesses and faults aren’t very far behind..
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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

lawes hartley like a lot of welsh pantomine villians seem nice guys in real life. reading  danny cares  book seems a top bloke to. as a rule i think the biggest gob shyes are irish not english
Subject to clarification of your typo, you might have a lot of support. Wink

My point was (aiming to be) about Lawes being more realistic than seasoned journo Monye whose pro playing days are somewhat distant.

Lawes and Hartley in the pundit role add value. They come across as more objective than Healey, although he has his plus points his weaknesses and faults aren’t very far behind..
Yes Lawes was talking as if he was part of the squad and was protective of players he has played with with. They were never going to agree but an interesting interchange! Austin sounded more biased than normal I thought. Eg the brilliant kick from Kolby for a 50 20 was ‘he got a bit lucky there’ . 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RR1972 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 November 2024 at 11:42am
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

lawes hartley like a lot of welsh pantomine villians seem nice guys in real life. reading  danny cares  book seems a top bloke to. as a rule i think the biggest gob shyes are irish not english
Subject to clarification of your typo, you might have a lot of support. Wink

My point was (aiming to be) about Lawes being more realistic than seasoned journo Monye whose pro playing days are somewhat distant.

Lawes and Hartley in the pundit role add value. They come across as more objective than Healey, although he has his plus points his weaknesses and faults aren’t very far behind..
note to self never post after 3 bottles of red. Wink lawess avialble for lions?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GPR - Rochester Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 November 2024 at 1:38pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

lawes hartley like a lot of welsh pantomine villians seem nice guys in real life. reading  danny cares  book seems a top bloke to. as a rule i think the biggest gob shyes are irish not english
Subject to clarification of your typo, you might have a lot of support. Wink

My point was (aiming to be) about Lawes being more realistic than seasoned journo Monye whose pro playing days are somewhat distant.

Lawes and Hartley in the pundit role add value. They come across as more objective than Healey, although he has his plus points his weaknesses and faults aren’t very far behind..
note to self never post after 3 bottles of red. Wink lawess avialble for lions?

Thats my boy!!!!! Lawes is available for the Lions though Lawes mark 2 - Cunningham-South will push for consideration I think. 
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Most commentators can do no right. People will always have a moan. 
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