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    Posted: 14 October 2005 at 12:00pm
Backs coach Anthony Dragone has parted company with Carmarthen Quins. Dragone played 127 league games for the Quins and was part of the club that climbed through the divisions. He was team manager for three seasons and was in his third term as backs coach.

The last 13 league games have brought only four wins and morale will undoubtedly be low after this disruption. It is likely centre and vice-captain Emyr Jones will be in charge of the backs until a long-term replacement is found.

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The Scarlets are obviously to blame for this...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GA PLUM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 October 2005 at 12:19pm
Originally posted by salmidach salmidach wrote:

The Scarlets are obviously to blame for this...

Or the council should have sorted some backs moves out for them. I blame the council...
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Originally posted by salmidach salmidach wrote:

The Scarlets are obviously to blame for this...

Damn, you beat me to it ;o)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote salmidach Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 October 2005 at 2:06pm
Originally posted by Tell Sally Tell Sally wrote:

Originally posted by salmidach salmidach wrote:

The Scarlets are obviously to blame for this...

Damn, you beat me to it ;o)

Sorry m8.

Surprised that Quinsboy hasn't been on yet blaming Gareth Jenkins and stating that it's the scarlets fault for not developing their coaching staff as well.....

Is it any wonder that there is agro between Llanelli and Carmarthen. Carmarthen are probably unhappy that we have always had top flight rugby compared to them and Llanelli are p155ed off that Carmarthen continually rip the heart out of public services in the Largest town in WEST WALES.....

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They haven't started well this season
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the president has left as well. and i know for a fact that he put a lot of money in to fund the club. how they will cope now remains to be seen.
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Originally posted by redeyes redeyes wrote:

the president has left as well. and i know for a fact that he put a lot of money in to fund the club. how they will cope now remains to be seen.

I really dont know but im very, very worried.

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My own personal view on how we will cope is that we will cope just fine, the club is bigger than any one man. I will not blame the Scarlets/Gareth Jenkins or anyone else other than our in house policies possibly. We lost three players in influential positions last year Wayne Evans (scrum half), Aled Thomas (outside half) and Ricky Davies (prop) the long and the short of it is we havent strngthened in areas we should have, and now we are paying the price.

I don't blame the coaches because they have scouted and bought in what the club (not the benefactor) could afford to pay. My main beef is probably with the committee they thought that with a couple of young players into the squad we already had that we would be safe, which is wrong when you look at the other sides in the division and how they have strengthened. To get it right on the field it needs to be right off the field but how can you have a committee of 25 to run a rugby club some of which have never kicked a rugby ball in their lives and are just there for their free meal ticket on a saturday and blazer and badge after a 3 year stint on the committee!!! The sooner the club gets rid of the whole committee ethos and has a 7-10 man (or woman have to be politically correct) Executive Board that is responsible for the running of all aspects of teh club the better. Also by having an Exec board like this maybe they could actually get round to doing something themselves about our facilities instead of waiting for and blaming the council for not doing anything.

We have a number of businessmen on the committee now who could fulfil these roles but then we have a number of hangers on who wouldnt stand on the gate collecting money if they were not on committee or the like.

I will defend the players come hell or high water and I see on a saturday that when we win (which before anyone says it has only happened twice so far this season, but this goes back all seasons) not one committee man will say well done, good win today but by christ when we lose the knives come out and this affects the players, don't get me wrong when they play badly they deserve criticism but when they play well they also deserve some credit which they don't get.

I am confident that we will survive this season because being with the squad week in week out I see how much it means to them to win/lose or draw.

I apologise for comments made earlier this month, but I felt that the comments in the programme were taken well out of context. I do wish both Llanelli RFC and the Scarlets all the best for the rest of the season, because at the end of the day, it is the region for which the Quins falls under and we need to work together to make it the best region in Wales.

Far too early for all this!!!!!!!!!!!

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With that attitude and respect,you'll soon be on the way up the table.Pob Lwc!
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Originally posted by quinsboy quinsboy wrote:

My own personal view on how we will cope is that we will cope just fine, the club is bigger than any one man. I will not blame the Scarlets/Gareth Jenkins or anyone else other than our in house policies possibly. We lost three players in influential positions last year Wayne Evans (scrum half), Aled Thomas (outside half) and Ricky Davies (prop) the long and the short of it is we havent strngthened in areas we should have, and now we are paying the price.
I don't blame the coaches because they have scouted and bought in what the club (not the benefactor) could afford to pay. My main beef is probably with the committee they thought that with a couple of young players into the squad we already had that we would be safe, which is wrong when you look at the other sides in the division and how they have strengthened. To get it right on the field it needs to be right off the field but how can you have a committee of 25 to run a rugby club some of which have never kicked a rugby ball in their lives and are just there for their free meal ticket on a saturday and blazer and badge after a 3 year stint on the committee!!!
excellent post, i wish you and the quins all the best
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Originally posted by quinsboy quinsboy wrote:

My own personal view on how we will cope is that we will cope just fine, the club is bigger than any one man. I will not blame the Scarlets/Gareth Jenkins or anyone else other than our in house policies possibly. We lost three players in influential positions last year Wayne Evans (scrum half), Aled Thomas (outside half) and Ricky Davies (prop) the long and the short of it is we havent strngthened in areas we should have, and now we are paying the price.


I don't blame the coaches because they have scouted and bought in what the club (not the benefactor) could afford to pay. My main beef is probably with the committee they thought that with a couple of young players into the squad we already had that we would be safe, which is wrong when you look at the other sides in the division and how they have strengthened. To get it right on the field it needs to be right off the field but how can you have a committee of 25 to run a rugby club some of which have never kicked a rugby ball in their lives and are just there for their free meal ticket on a saturday and blazer and badge after a 3 year stint on the committee!!! The sooner the club gets rid of the whole committee ethos and has a 7-10 man (or woman have to be politically correct) Executive Board that is responsible for the running of all aspects of teh club the better. Also by having an Exec board like this maybe they could actually get round to doing something themselves about our facilities instead of waiting for and blaming the council for not doing anything.


We have a number of businessmen on the committee now who could fulfil these roles but then we have a number of hangers on who wouldnt stand on the gate collecting money if they were not on committee or the like.


I will defend the players come hell or high water and I see on a saturday that when we win (which before anyone says it has only happened twice so far this season, but this goes back all seasons) not one committee man will say well done, good win today but by christ when we lose the knives come out and this affects the players, don't get me wrong when they play badly they deserve criticism but when they play well they also deserve some credit which they don't get.


I am confident that we will survive this season because being with the squad week in week out I see how much it means to them to win/lose or draw.


I apologise for comments made earlier this month, but I felt that the comments in the programme were taken well out of context. I do wish both Llanelli RFC and the Scarlets all the best for the rest of the season, because at the end of the day, it is the region for which the Quins falls under and we need to work together to make it the best region in Wales.


Far too early for all this!!!!!!!!!!!



Good post. But what i will say is that at tight head instead of Ricky you've got Mark O'Kelly who is registered in the Scarlets is Heineken cup squad. At Scrum Half you've got a good young scrum half in Luke Marsh and a more experienced former Wales u21 scrum half in Ricky Richards (is he injured?) and at outside-half you've got a yongster in Craig Evans (who's got a scarlets development contract) and a more experienced guy in Simon Daniel, so the players are there. When i look at the team sheet im amazed at their current position as there's some cracking players in the team with the likes of the players above with Ben Sgrace, Gareth Williams (ex scarlets), Gareth King, Darren Simpson, Chris jones (he looks a great 8), Dominic Day (very promising 2nd row, still only 20) and the ever green Paul Arnold. The players are there, one win and the season be back on track. All the best!
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Originally posted by GA PLUM GA PLUM wrote:

 

Good post. But what i will say is that at tight head instead of Ricky you've got Mark O'Kelly who is registered in the Scarlets is Heineken cup squad. At Scrum Half you've got a good young scrum half in Luke Marsh and a more experienced former Wales u21 scrum half in Ricky Richards (is he injured?) and at outside-half you've got a yongster in Craig Evans (who's got a scarlets development contract) and a more experienced guy in Simon Daniel, so the players are there. When i look at the team sheet im amazed at their current position as there's some cracking players in the team with the likes of the players above with Ben Sgrace, Gareth Williams (ex scarlets), Gareth King, Darren Simpson, Chris jones (he looks a great 8), Dominic Day (very promising 2nd row, still only 20) and the ever green Paul Arnold. The players are there, one win and the season be back on track. All the best!

Things will improve on the field. We've played 7 of 8 games this year without a scrum half. Luke Marsh got injured after game 2 and Ricky Richards is noiw back but has only played 4 minutes. Marsh played on Saturday.

It does sound like excuses, excuses I know but not having a trained scrum half in any game makes it very difficult. Distribution wise, looke at the difference int he Scarlets vs Cardiff game. McDonalds pass was slow and the backs were straight under pressure. Liam Davies came on with a giodd pass and things improved.

I dont agree with playing Craig Evans at 15 as we've been doing tho. He should be at 10 to develop for Quins and the region.

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Yeah i did notice that Emyr Jones who's usually a centre was playing scrum half wasnt he?? Where there any scrum halfs in the youth?


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Luke Marsh hasn't been injured it was a concious decision to play Emyr Jones at Scrum half where he used to play a few years ago. There is a scrum half in youth but he is out for the season with a dislocated shoulder, he is a class act, I believe the one who is playing youth rugby at the moment is a bit too young.

Personally I would play Leighton Mckenna at 10 and Gareth King at full back, every time Leighton has come on he hasn't let us down at all and even scored one of our best tries so far this season against Newport away.

A victory will come and it will be a shock victory if we can just cut out the basic errors, we gifted Pontypridd 28 points from mistakes Saturday and you cannot afford to it this level, the boys know that they have been hammered by a side yet, that we have given the games away.

I am with the squad week in week out and I know how much they are hurting when they come off the park, they gave it 110% saturday and things didnt go their way. All this upheaval of coaches/committee going etc has just made the squad a whole lot stronger together and the belief is there that we are going to turn a corner soon.

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