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cornelius
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Posted: 27 December 2014 at 11:40am |
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Your missing the point!!!!
Each region will recieve £500000 from the WRU DC pot. If any team receives more or less then money will be shifted between the regions to even out. So it does not matter who gets DC's really!!!! |
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Scenario:-
4 players out of contract, 1 experienced international on £200k, 1 WQ non-capped player on £100k and 2 youngsters on £50k each. To keep them on their current contracts, the Region would have to shell out £400k out of their own pocket. If the seasoned international was on a DC, Region would have to spend £80k to retain him, plus £200k for the other 3 player = £280k to retain the 4. If the two youngsters were give DC's, Region would have to spend £40 to retain the pair, plus £300k for the other 2 players = £340k to retain the 4. Which would a Region prefer, bearing in mind there are restrictions for DC players on the amount they can play, and also the Region would need to recruit additional players to supplement their squad? In the 1st scenario, Region would benefit by having £120k freed up to strengthen their squad to supplement 1 DC player. In the 2nd scenario, Region would have £60k freed up to strengthen their squad to supplement 2 DC players. Edited by haydn_davies - 27 December 2014 at 11:30am |
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reesytheexile
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It may help budgeting in that a Region knows a set % of a salary is guaranteed from WRU and they only need to worry on balance?
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When you think about it, there is only AWJ, Dan Biggar, Cuthbert left in wales who are out and out first choice players who's wages are probably well in the 6 figure mark. I don't think they wanted to target those at the moment not a guarantee starter for wales: this rules out tipuric, ken and Liam. Cuthbert has allegedly turned one down. I think they will target a backbone of a side for 2019: potentially Rob Evans, Dee, Samson, Jake, Biggar plus prospects like Tyler Morgan, Amos etc and then whatever is left over, North will be main target due to age and the fact that he's face of Welsh rugby. That's the way i see them doing it and we will not see the benefits until a few years. |
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Rob o'r Bont
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Conversely, if they have had to pay the full wages of those inexperienced players, they will have less funding available to match a DC - swings and roundabouts. Edited by Rob o'r Bont - 27 December 2014 at 10:53am |
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My concern is the WRU will use up all it's allocated money for DC's on youngsters and there may not be enough money left to try and keep a current international player in Wales is they receive an offer from elsewhere.
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Rob o'r Bont
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I dont think it really matters who gets DCs and who doesn't. If you think about it - a region will have the same amount of funding available - its just that you can secure less senior players than junior players with the money, but the funding a region has available for the whole squad will remain the same.
Edited by Rob o'r Bont - 27 December 2014 at 10:35am |
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The bottom line is that gatland is the best coach in wales , and i tend to go with his decisions , even if they can appear strange at times
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PE SA
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I think many are forgetting that Rhodri is still very young. Has plenty of time to make it work at tighthead.
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Agreed. At the end of the day, there is only £3m in the pot we are told. Signing up the next gen of players IMO is key so that Gatland will have a squad for the next 2 world cups. Amos, Morgan and Rhodri will be around for 2019. As will Warburton. The next batch of announced DCs IMO could include: Jake Ball, Dan Biggar, Scott Williams and Samson. Then youngsters like Rob Evans, Elliott Dee. Then they will target the likes of foxy, Roberts, North and halfpenny but I think they will only be able to afford to help bringing 2 of them. |
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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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OwainLlanedi
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Yeah but see - he's not playing at loosehead. He's a good loosehead and Wales need more looseheads. But at the whim of a coaching group who are arch fools, he has relinquished his early career promise for the false hope of playing tighthead. He's no bloody tighthead. He's a terrible tighthead. He should never have switched because his formative years showed he had all the tools to be a top quality loosehead. Don't get fooled by the fact that Wales wanted him here. Welsh rugby has unfortunately become all about sucking at Gatland's deformed teat, just because we're incorrectly told he's some genius. He's not. He's disastrously forced a young man to throw away his formative years as a rugby professional, and I feel desperately sorry for Rhodri who's been advised to throw away his early promise to appease Cement Head. It's a tragedy. Edited by OwainLlanedi - 27 December 2014 at 8:24am |
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Don't be stupid. If he wasn't verry good neither gatland norvthecscarletscwould want to keep hold of him. In the loose he's up there with Gethin. Unfortunately his scrummaging needs to improve. As a LH he would have been top quality by now. So to say he isn't very good is way off the mark |
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Because he's "not very good" - diplomatic. Edited by OwainLlanedi - 27 December 2014 at 3:32am |
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The contracts awarded thus far do seem a bit odd. However, if Tipuric, Liam et al were happy to sign directly with the region then that's fine. The real test will be if we can use the DC's to secure players that come under real pressure from foreign offers, and that otherwise might have left. Ball could be an example of this, so if a DC is needed to keep him, but wasn't needed for Liam for example, then I can see the sense and value in that.
Signing up the youngsters seems a bit unnecessary, but if they were likely to leave Wales without a DC, and they are not that expensive, I could be persuaded on the logic. Possibly. |
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