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Some quotes here from Privac relating to the new selection policy and our willingness to pursue a contract with Ross.
Also some gossipy comments about it being a done deal, which will be announced during the AI's. (pinch of salt etc.) If we get him, I can't imagine it will be at a knock down price, perhaps a sharpening of focus due to the new policy, which will simply hasten the signature. http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/scarlets-step-up-chase-ross-13782626 |
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My worry, if we expect him to play like Scott Quinnell and scatter defenders in his path, is that he's not got the physique to do this without incurring injuries fairly frequently. He's 16st3 and 6ft 2. This gives him power and acceleration, but does he have the weight to knock them over and to help in cushioning the blows? On the other hand he would be a much more mobile forward than Quinnell, Lyons, Morgan or Nick Williams etc and maybe this is what we need with our current running/offloading game and he will only occasionally be required to barge his way across the line. A couple of early tries and I'd probably be convinced!!!
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We need him- he needs to come back to Wales. Reports of Gatland suggesting that he might go to the Drags seem a bit over dramatised so who knows. His back hasn't revovered from the Lions tour so that has to be a questionmark.
Shedweb has been muttering about all matters Welsh over this for a while now but they should remember the big Ben story and shut up. Incidentally Ben has just scored a try for Glos and we've never found anyone since his departure who could do what he does. |
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In the traditional mould he's a top notch 6 but an adequate 8. Pivac obviously doesn't see him playing a traditional 8 role, but if he does play there, where does that leave him with Wales. Faletau is obviously going to be Wales' 8 for a number of years. Does playing out of position disadvantage Moriarty?
Any chance the board could stretch to Moriarty and Faletau? Moriarty, Faletau, Cubby looks like one helluva back row to me |
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An “adequate” 8? Really?
I think he’d be one of the best 8s in the league. I wouldn’t swap him for any 8 at a Welsh region that’s for sure. |
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I think Scarlets and Wales will play him at 6 and 8. You need a backup to Faletau to get strength in depth. But I would have him primarily at 8.
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8s seem to be a bit smaller and quicker these days with the new laws
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What does that say about the 8's at the regions? I did say in the traditional sense btw. |
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Fair comments... my only concern, really, is the fact that he has yet to play this season due to injury on 3 June. What is the nature of his injury, and how certain is it that he can make a complete recovery? I'd hate us to spend a small fortune on a player who spends most of his time on the touchline. So long as the injury is cleared up to everyone's satisfaction, then of course he'd be a great signing.
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Not much difference between 6 and 8 these days. He's a fantastic player, but yes we'd have to feel confident about his fitness.
That Leeds to an interesting thought about the new rules on Welsh 'eligibility' - if due to concerns over injury or financial worries none of the four regions wanted to offer him even a Dual contract then what would the situation be? would WRU agree to pay a higher percentage to encourage them to take him on or what because they could be left with the situation where a fit Moriarty would not be able to play for Wales because only an English club will be prepared to offer him a contract. I don't think that will happen but it's an interesting scenario. |
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The traditional 8 still has a place in the modern game, but we played our best rugby for a decade last year without one.
It's your style of play that dictates the players you need and we had the perfect balance in Shingler, Cubby and Barclay. If Moriarty joined, I'd like to think he could complement that back row rather than change it. |
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he is a quality player, but with macloed boyde cubby shingle and Barclay the backrow is quite blessed as it is. I think macloed and boyde will develop even more so would it be wise to stunt their development by bringing in another player. I know moriarty is quality and would boost us greatly, but with our limited funs would it be worth looking at putting that money into replacing beirne?
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We are looking at replacing Beirne as well though (seems Seb Davies top of list)
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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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7 games into the season and we already are without Cubby (mid-long term) and Barclay, with Boyde just coming back. Truth is, we were lucky last year with injuries and we need as many top players as we can afford. I feel we can get away with a player like Rawlins or Tom Price at 5 (not forgetting Bullbring, who has been very good this season) but backrow is key to the way we play. 6 Shingler/Moriarty 7 Cubby/Barclay/Boyde 8 Moriarty/McLeod/Barclay Only two out of those 6 players would miss out of the 23, and that's assuming no injuries. Moriarty would be on a NDC also, which would limit his appearances. McLeod will turn 21 in a week also. Plenty of time to develop.
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thanks exiku, ignore what I said! would love to have him with us.
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