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SospanMawr
Veteran Joined: 03 April 2013 Location: The North Stand Status: Offline Points: 10035 |
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Do you think Scottish and Welsh people naturally aren’t as capable, is it a size issue, a lack of assets/resources or something else/a combination of these?
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Wil Chips
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The same complacency that saw countries perpetually applying the ‘ lockdown/ ease off’ strategy in the Western world is seen in the vaccine take up rate in countries that had ( until recently) kept COVID at bay. See Taiwan, Malaysia, Vietnam, Laos and Thailand. It’s really rocked the confidence of NZ and Australia. |
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GPR - Rochester
Veteran Joined: 01 December 2014 Location: Rhydcymerau Status: Offline Points: 18784 |
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Sospan & Dai - I will start a devolution thread as this is the wrong place methinks!!!!!
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RR1972
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dr_martinov
Veteran Joined: 06 August 2005 Location: Tycoch Status: Offline Points: 13286 |
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Portugal placed on amber list now, so same as Spain.
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Legendinmybathroom
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Ditto Westminster, albeit London/Home Counties Centric despite all the ‘equalling up’ rhetoric that they continue to spout out.
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Wil Chips
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Had a look at the backdrop to the decision to delay a full lockdown release yesterday. It's not an easy call by any means, but I do wonder whether it ever will be.
It feels like the UK edged toward a new desire to have a 'clean slate' ideal for full release yesterday...I do think that this will never happen...a mix of muddled thinking historically ( when to go in to or come out of lockdown, travel bans etc) have meant that Covid will always have a foothold of some kind in the UK. So the issue now is that the UK seems to have lost it's nerve on large swathes of people having the 1st vaccine being the answer ( 80% of adults one dose, 55% two doses) and pushing the lockdown release out another month to get more people double vaccinated...on the surface totally sensible...but counter that with the fact that although cases have gone up, hospitalizations and fatalities have come in well within the the modeling done at the outset of the 4 step lock down. The underlying problem here, as I see it, is saying your following data rather than dates, but then telling everyone the dates that things will change. Bizzare. |
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RR1972
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Anyhow looks like restrictions are staying untill 19.7 in england and goodness knows when here. Doubt well get a full crowd in pys untill 2022!
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Fscarlet
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But a full capacity for both Wimbledon singles finals....
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roy munster
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Its all a consequence of the mindless media london circus that somehow seems to pressurise govt into making rash flash headline grabbing gimmicks and statements. Obviously we should follow the data not dates....But the number of times Ive heard those numbskull pretend journalists ask the same gotcha questions...When are we out of lockdown every press conference? same question ad infinitum .....when people stop catching it enmasse and dying in big numbers ...now ask something sensible |
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RR1972
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dyniol53
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Great post. Data not dates has obviously always been bogus, they are going off vibes. “If we don’t do something now hospitals might get worse and people might blame us” Meanwhile a 2 week delay becomes 4 week delay and costs everyone £3bn on the assumption it might save ~5k lives (and who knows what % of those who end up in hospital were unvaccinated by choice!!) If we took this approach on any other disease at any time before March 2020 it wouldn’t have been taken seriously.
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dyniol53
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Fundamentally one of the worst parts of the response in this country was watching Oxbridge educated journos ask petty questions to the PM/Witty/Vallance day after day when they could have been pressing on helping the government and the public understand the virus better… I.e. in April 2020 we had some decent evidence that this was an airborne virus, but the press werent interested in probing the scientists judgement about that they were asking whether we locked down too late… barely a month into the pandemic.
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SospanMawr
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https://twitter.com/bydonkeys/status/1404822229939113989?s=21
Interesting (but infuriating) watch that spells out in facts and detail exactly how mismanaged the Delta variant has been here in the UK.
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Rob o'r Bont
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Third wave is with us in Wales then.
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dr_martinov
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The UK is going to be a key test of the first generation vaccines. We have a large, dense population (dense as in densely populated of course....), a new strain, relaxed restrictions that include largish gatherings outdoors. 47% of the population are fully vaccinated. 70% is the rough target but levels are still low at present and it should be 70% before October. Of course hospital cases will go up as cases do but we have to look at severity measures (death being one measure of severity). On the research front, there's some worrying data come showing loss of grey matter in those that had mild to moderate Covid. Unknown why or what impact this may have.
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