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scarletnut
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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Professional rugby in Wales is dying anyway. The WRU do not want 4 clubs, they would probably love it to go down to two, which is totally unsustainable.
No welsh side is going to win anything for the foreseeable future under the current guidance of the WRU, so there really isn't a point on flogging a dead horse. |
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I do understand the pessimism surrounding Welsh rugby but, for me, I am an eternal optimist. We have quality players often despite the WRU; we have a stadium - the Principality, which is the envy of many. What we desperately need is a governance structure fit for the professional era. I cannot ever see that happening under the leadership of Mr Butcher & Steve Phillips. I hope they prove me wrong but bigger basket cases than Welsh rugby have been transformed by the right people with the right attitude.
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RR1972
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The weu want to own all the regions and centrally contract all the best players to foxus on team wakes and it’s success , they could care less if the regions win matches let alone silver wear
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KID A
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We've had the right people and the right attitude - and once they mentioned a change in governance, separating the pro and amateur game - they were voted out by the clubs. Phillips and Butcher may be awful, out of their depth, and dragging the game back, but I'm afraid the real blockage to success are the people running the community clubs. They will not let the pro teams be in control of their own destiny. Shame on them. |
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KID A
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No they don't. They can't even afford to fund the one they own properly. What they want is to keep the 4 pro clubs' heads just above water, so they hang on by a thread, but don't thrive - paying as little as possible to the 4 regions as they can. That way they can keep taking the players whenever they need them but don't have to pay proper market rates for player release - citing our poor performance as a result. If they wanted us to thrive, we would have seen that CVC money. |
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Fair comment Kid A. Gareth Davies knew the way forward.
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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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RR1972
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Ok all these scarlet players rock up to the scarletsc academy with out ever having played for any junior clubs,the urc holds the pro game back untill we get a b and i lge we will always struggle
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WRU governance balance is so far weighted against the pro clubs. It needs to change. If the pro clubs thrive, so will the community clubs. The pro game attracts the big(ger) money. If the top of the pyramid flourishes, so should the rest of the game. Unfortunately the experience of the folk leading the WRU isn’t suitable for managing a multi million pound business. They recruited but couldn’t retain someone who was totally suitable for some reason or another.
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RR1972
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A strong test team needs a strong pro game a strong pro game needs a strong grass roots game. The more kids we have playing age group and schools rugby the more chance we have of getting better players for the regions and then for wales. Long term we need to look at getting better coaching better facilities better s and c for the youngsters for the future for welsh rugby. Short tern givving the regions more money to make us more competive will help. But long term more funding for age and schools rugby is key. I don’t want money for grass roots to be spent on playwrs for the first team to win trophys for these clubs, it’s to run age group and youth sides As i said i’m happy to see the pro game run seperately but let’s not forget the fact plenty of pro welsh rugby clubs babkrupted themselves paying money they didn’t have in the past
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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Our schools rugby system is dreadful though, less schools play, less kids play, there are less fixtures, less qualified coaches and s and c coaching is non existant. Those schools you point out are generally fee paying , the kids there are boarders and they have top coaches there . Wales schools have none of that and the wru need to invest in them and age group
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