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RR1972
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It’s free to join the student union isnt it? What if your working but spend one day a week in college you don’t pay then? As i said it should be free for those who can’t afford photo id problem solved. There is no reason for people to object if it’s free
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SospanMawr
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I don’t know if there’s still no reason to object if it’s free. If it is free I will accept that that’s good. But is it genuinely worth taxpayer money to create, verify, distribute, upkeep, replace voter ID cards for 6 confirmed cases of voter fraud? Shouldn’t we be making it easy for people to vote, not adding more hurdles that clearly benefit the party in power (as most of their supporters already have photo ID as seen in the FT article I linked to you).
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aber-fan
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That is a brilliant and succinct summary of what is wrong with the idea. Thank you.
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“You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift)
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RR1972
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aber-fan
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You may find it bizarre, but the government's own figures apparently stated that 2 million people don't have photo ID. Rather than take the word of one or other political party, we can look at the opinion of a body not aligned with any part whatsoever - the electoral reform society: The ERS says this about the proposal: "Boris Johnson once pledged to ‘eat’ his ID if he was ever forced to show it by the government. Yet he is now introducing a ‘show your papers’ policy at the ballot box that is the misguided and wrong. At a cost of up to £20,000,000 per general election, this plan to force people to bring ID to vote is an expensive distraction from the problems the country faces. Millions of people lack ID in the UK, and these expensive and undemocratic plans risk blocking them from the ballot box. Nobody should be turned away from a polling station or have to wait in line at their local council to be approved to vote because their driving licence is still in their maiden name, or their passport expired." As one example of someone with no photo ID - my aged mother can no longer see well enough to drive so has relinquished her driving licence, and can no longer travel abroad as she is frail so has relinquished her passport. And yet, you want to disenfranchise her? Really?
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“You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift)
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RR1972
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As ive said give everyone free id cards. No way 2.000.000 who vote on a regular basis don’t have a photo id in my view anyhow
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GPR - Rochester
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I'd give up while you are behind on this one RR - think about Santa Ponsa
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RR1972
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Ha my nick name should be the salmon always swimming against the tide😂😂👍
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